A word with Diane Cummins



I first met Diane Cummins at the track, what are the odds? My son (then 9) and I were enjoying the Victoria International Track Classic at the University of Victoria, Centennial stadium, May 25th 2001.

It was a cool, breezy evening and Diane had just handily run away from her competition in an 800m race, easing to a 2:04.

One of the best parts of Vic International is heading onto the track and meeting world class athletes immediatley after the competition ends. When we got down onto the track, we caught up with Diane first. We found her to be, accommodating, engaging; effervescent. My son got her autograph, which he still has, on the two page program - within moments she was surrounded.

Running into Ms. Cummins around town a couple times a year since; she always remembers my son's name, which him and I find highly amazing. In 2006, again I ran into Diane. I asked if she would be interested in speaking at my half marathon clinic, I had going on every week. I had been leading 60 or so newbie runners, who were ready to take on the half marathon distance after tackling the Times Colonist 10k - a race with nearly 10, 000 participants.

Diane brought everyone to points of laughter and tears; a roller coaster of emotions in a matter of minutes. Magic happened and everyone felt lighter on their feet that evening. Once we headed out for the run, the participants were talking all about Diane and the run disappeared on them, they forgot they were working it!

So I am very pleased once again to interact with Diane in an interview, here for Flocasts. Diane, at the top of running in Canada is getting ready for the Beijing Olympics; contesting the 800m and looking beyond however, I know she is focused on the big show. Here follows a little interview, with a fine lady who transcends sport in running mad Victoria, BC.

CK: Diane, Beijing will not be your first international games, or your first Olympics for that matter. You have been ranked near the top of the world, medaled in the Commonwealth Games and still hold the Canadian 800m record. Obviously one does not go into the Olympics, without some expectations. Athletics Canada wants a top 12 placing at least, is that good enough for Diane Cummins?

DC: No it's not good enough! Of course most athletes dream of the GOLD medal and that's what gets us through the hard days. I dream of the medal, but I expect to at least perform where I have been before. My best international result has been 5th in Edmonton at the 2001 World's. At the Olympics, it's the same girls, different track.

CK: You have achieved a great deal in your sport, representing Canada. Looking forward to this spring and summer specific training, are you doing anything different this time around to prepare yourself for Beijing?

DC: Having raced twice now, in extreme climates (and not performing up to scratch in those conditions) I am trying to figure out how to deal with the weather in Beijing. Not much has changed with my spring/summer specific training except my awareness of the potential to collapse again (in that heat). I am investigating what I need to do to feel good and race well. This is not just about a training camp somewhere hot, it's more about the little things. What is the best hydration solution (I think I drink too many sugary drinks), how much do I drink before and after training. Figuring out the timing of liquids, foods, treatment and things like that.

CK: What are your plans after Beijing? Have you ever thought about longer distances, road racing or perhaps one day the marathon?

DC: After Beijing I am going to South Africa to say "hi" to some old friends. THEN I am going to train for longer distances, so that in 2009 I can race 1500s and miles with less discomfort! Hopefully some road races, but I don't think anything longer than 10km. I do have a hope of one day running the Comrades. ...One day

CK's note: The Comrades Marathon is an ultra-marathon run between the South African cities of Pietermaritzburg and Durban a distance of 89km or 56 miles. It reverses direction each year, one way up, one way down. Incidentally, the 83rd running of the most prestigious ultra-marathon in the world happens this June 2008.

CK: You are stateside for the time being, are you working with a coach based in Montana, or a Victoria, BC coach?

DC: I am working with Mark Timmons here in Missoula. Mark plans the training program and attends workouts. Brent Fougner, my coach from Victoria is my mentor and guides my overall plan. As most of you know Athletics Canada makes the season more complicated by putting up the famous 'by this date' selection criteria.

CK: I assume you are not running the high level quality workouts this early. What goes on in a typical day of a top level athlete, training in Missoula Montana for the Olympics? Do you fit in longer training runs at this point?

DC: Yes, are you kidding? I love long runs! NOT!! But I do them. The best thing about Missoula is the training group. These girls are fantastic and there is never a lonely run. We are definitely not the kind that enjoys the solitude of this sport, getting a kick out of long solo efforts. We make the most of the social gatherings. Our long runs are every 2nd Sunday, where I am up to 75 minutes. Track training happens Tuesday and Friday, Pilates, Monday and Thursday and all days in between are either 2 shorter runs or one longer run or cross training, with every second Sunday off. I have now got my shorter runs from 20 minutes (when I was in Victoria) to 40 minutes. That's a good feeling! On the whole my mileage has increased since being here, but compared to others it's nothing to write home about.

Changing directions -

CK: We both celebrated our birthdays on the same day in January, you said you went to Phoenix and danced with some girl friends and had a good time, way to go girl. I too danced with friends, but I didn't go to Phoenix, I danced here at home, who do you think got in the better workout?

DC: Me for sure! You try keep up with Vicky Pounds and Andrea Grove!

CK's note: Not only was I joking about dancing, but I dance well only after 11 pm and a few wobbly pops. I wouldn't be keeping up with anyone. Shake your booty, sister!

CK: Were you good at other sports as a kid? How young were you when you started running and competing?

DC: South Africa (when I was growing up) had a very unique, after school sports program, so I started really young. My mother says I was always running and my punishment as a kid was to time me running around the house ...punishment...or so my parents thought hee hee. I have always loved running, so participated mostly in running sports like track, cross country, netball, field hockey. In my later years I have enjoyed sailing, chess, and swimming.

CK: What are your thoughts on children running, training and competing?

DC: I think it should be fun and the kids should win because of talent not because of training and the pressures that go with it. I think it is important for children to belong to clubs and run, swim, bike, but in my opinion it should be for fun also for exercise and for interaction, and not stressful.

Another direction shift - a tire screeching u-turn this time.

CK: If a purse snatcher grabbed your purse and sprinted off, we know he would not get to the end of the block before you caught up to him. You could either run with him until he passes out from exhaustion or you can tackle him, what would be a Diane Cummins' tactic in this situation?

DC: I would run and tackle him within seconds. I hope I have watched enough rugby in my day to know how to do it, when I get there!

CK's note: You can take the girl out of South Africa, but you can't take the South Africa out of the girl.

Here in Canada, the alternative question would be: Would you pull the jersey over his head (ala hockey) and start pounding? Given the choice, its best you don't mess with Canadian (via; South Africa,) Diane Cummins, our 'Commonwealth cousin', she sounds tough!

CK: You just placed very well in the Olympics, who knows top 12, top 5, podium, perhaps gold. Corporation X want's to feature you in a commercial enjoying a very unhealthy food choice, what does a bright, positive, fun loving personality do, who now happens to be an example and athletic inspiration to a nation?

DC: There is no way I could do it, not for all the money in the world. My friends and parents know too well that I am pretty healthy. I have spent too much time trying to get them all to eat the same way. They would see straight through me.

CK: Getting back to your comment on Athletics Canada, making things complicated. There happens to be much dialogue on the internet about how Athletics Canada and to some degree Martin Goulet are causing a regression in performances, by making some qualification standards unreasonable. Do you have any thoughts to share on this?

DC: I know Athletics Canada (AC) have their reasons, which go beyond just AC staff - seeing as you mentioned, Martin Goulet. It is more complicated and political than AC just making it tougher for the athletes (and coaches). It's the Canadian Olympic Committee (COC), the sponsors, the funding partners and Sport Canada. AC needs medals to get money and support for our sport. We only get this if we perform within a certain percentile, based on the number of athletes competing. In track this is very difficult as we know how competitive our sport is. For example, how many synchronized divers have to compete against 50 others in one competition?

And to bring up another controversial point: How do you know that the top 12 athletes in the world are clean? We all know that our sport is riddled with cheaters, so in my opinion this 'top 12' criteria is not a fair part of the selection process. This also leads to the rising star category, which in my opinion is age discrimination. Especially when dealing with the longer distances. As an athlete, being the best in Canada and trying to be the best in the world at the same time, setting a good example for the next generation is not good enough. Winning a medal does not automatically qualify you as a good role model. The powers that be (those who make the criteria) need to stand up and publicly announce that participation is not the key, trying your best is not good enough, making the most of an opportunity is frivolous and if you are not going to win don't bother going.

It is very sad to see that only the best in the world are able to represent their country and not the best in the country representing the country to the world.

Bottom line: I don't agree with the selection criteria. If the criteria were set like this in 2001, I would not have competed in the World Championships that year and never given the opportunity to make the final and come 5th.

Career Highlights:

Personal bests:

800m - 1:58.39, 2 Sept 2001, ITA

Canada's best result at the 2001 World Championships in Edmonton where she placed fifth.

Commonwealth Games Bronze and Silver.

Pan-Am Silver - Diane came to Canada from South Africa in 1994. She still holds 18 track and field records at her high school in South Africa. All of Canada will be cheering for Diane in Beijing and I will be right there with everyone. _____________________________________________________________________________

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Diane_x posted January 27 at 12:17pm.
hi nicole ... when you coming to us in Missoula? you'll love it here !
Asterix.. i know i may have come off a little harsh with the whole Criteria thing.. but, in my opinion the future of our sport is in the hands of the people that make the rules. As it is our numbers are diminishing at a rapid rate and getting enough people for rounds at Nationals is like pulling teeth. Most athletes are inspired to do better once
they have made their first National Team. Our Canadian athletes do not get enough money to rise to the A standard alone (through sponsorships etc) and it's money that gets you from being good to being great. Money for treatments, good healthy food, and travel) only when you are on a team do you usually get the look from a major company. So, unless AC and the rest of the team (COC, Sport Canada, sponsors) are going to throw a lot of money in development and the junior athletes... where are we headed?
As far as races go.. it's individual.. i have raced as many as 22 races in a season and as little as 8. This i am 34 so i am going to see how is goes!
thanks for understanding my view. You might not agree.
Nicole Stevenson posted January 25 at 9:31pm.
Hey Diane. Great interview. Go get 'em this summer!
Wetcoast_x posted January 25 at 5:25pm.
Yes.
Curtis Holt posted January 25 at 5:23pm.
didnt Diane win the 07 Pan Ams?
Asterix posted January 25 at 12:47pm.
I wasn't aware they were that restrictive on the 'rising star' numbers. Thanks for clarifying.

As far as repeating standards, not using the 'rising star' method, someone would have to run 1:59.97 once and 2:01.30 twice or 2:01.30 once and 2:00.00 twice. Since you presumably have or will meet the criteria, even the minimum international rules would require one 2:00.00 performance from someone else.

I realize that not all races are ideal situations, but I'm curious how many 800m races someone like you would plan in their season prior to an event such as the Olympics or World Championships? Wouldn't there usually be many kicks at the can taken for this distance?
Diane_x posted January 25 at 12:25pm.
ps cant reply on letsrun something about a firewall setting.
Diane_x posted January 25 at 12:20pm.
hi, for one, the rising star category is a spot for one or 2 athletes not a whole team. So assuming you are not the \"rising star\" (and the rising star is selected when the team is finalised - a couple weeks before departure - the athlete and coach has to start the season assuming he/she is not that person). this puts the athlete under pressure to repeat that standard. It appears easy but in races 800m and up you can\'t always be guaranteed a good fast race with good pace maker putting the athlete in charge of carrying the field just to run a good time to make the team.
Asterix posted January 25 at 11:59am.
Diane, I guess you might be answering my letsrun post (why can't you reply on that forum?).

Can you elaborate on how specifically the criteria "sets a very difficult standard for the up and coming athletes in the future"? Presumably up and coming athletes only have to meet the 'Rising Star' criteria which does not look particularly onerous to me.

For the 800 (and 1500 and 5000), they just have to run the IAAF B standard twice, instead of the absolute minimum once. However since you've got faster times, for Canada to send anyone else in the 800, they too would have to break 2:00.00 (IAAF A standard), just as in any other country in the world.

For the 10,000, they just need a single IAAF B standard, the absolute minimum required by any other country in the world.

Marathon is obviously a different story since the Canadian standards are different than that of the IAAF (although proportionally only as tough as the IAAF times for shorter distances).
Diane_x posted January 25 at 11:44am.
i can't reply on letsrun so thought i would post here. It seems people who don't know me, quite clearly didn't get my point about not liking the criteria. Perhaps i needed to really spell it out though. I am not necessarily in disagreement about the criteria for me.. I think its sets a very difficult standard for the up and coming athletes in the future. When this generation of athletes quit I think the Canadian team is going to be really small. I am more concerned for the sport as a whole. The system is complicated ... if you really want to know more about it you have to read the Athletes contract and selection criteria. Maybe then you will understand all the conditions athletics.ca
Christopher Kelsall posted January 25 at 11:15am.
Thank you for the correction, indeed you are right. So it is not in addition, I beleive I was counting her Pan AM silver and calling it that, where it is Gold...even better.
Nuck posted January 25 at 10:55am.
Pan-Am gold too!
Canuck Chuck posted January 25 at 8:41am.
Diane isn't new! She's a dinosour!! (And a fast one at that)
David Williams posted January 24 at 9:32pm.
Nice interview. I enjoy hearing things about new athletes.

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