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The Dope Show

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April 30, 2009

Yesterday the shocking news came out that Rashid Ramzi is dirty. My favorite article about the incident is the one on the NBC sports website with a picture of him licking his medal. ( http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30458294/ ). That picture reminds me of the little kids I grew up with who would lick a cookie to ensure that no one else would eat it. Its like Ramzi was saying "its mine, don't touch." Usually when a kid licked the cookie, it wasn't actually theirs... no different here.

I hate Performance Enhancing Drugs for several reasons but the number one publicized reason for hating drugs is not one that I think about too much. This would be the "Cheaters rob the Clean athletes of Medals and Records" reason. Of course my opinion could drastically change if I were Asbel Kiprop or anyone else robbed of a Gold, Silver or Bronze or advancing to the final in the Olympics or World Championships that he participated in but I still think that everyone he beat can still be satisfied that they did their best which is really what the sport is all about. Don't get me wrong, I would love to set some records and win some medals, but more importantly I want to do the best that I can do and it doesn't do me much good to worry about anyone else. But then again, my only experience being beat by someone who tested positive was at the World XC champs, and I think he got around 20-30th or so and I magically moved up from 52nd to 51st sometime last year.

What I hate about Performance Enhancing Drugs is the attitude that everyone at the top of the sport is on them. In a way Kiprop and Willis are lucky that they didn't beat Ramzi because then everyone would be saying "Ramzi was on drugs and they beat him so they MUST be on drugs." This isn't how it works though, I don't know very much about PED's but I highly doubt that they take normal people and make them superhuman. I certainly think they give you an edge, possibly a big edge, but I don't think that someone who's natural ability peaks at 15 minutes in the 5k would be able to beat guys like me if he all of a sudden started taking EPO. Guys like Ramzi are naturally very good runners, then they take some drugs and they become Champions, but that doesn't mean that someone with amazing natural ability who works very hard can't also be a Champion. (Ramzi suddenly went from 3:39 to 3:30... no one knows when he started doping but presumably he either started that year or he did something different. but either way, 3:39 is still pretty quick and he probably could have improved on his own without drugs). I have no idea how good I can become but it bothers me that if I am somehow able to break 27 minutes in the 10k or win a medal at a World Championship or Olympics that some people will think that I must be on Drugs.

I also hate the attitude that if one wants to be the best that they have to take drugs. I have never witnessed this attitude in American distance running in my lifetime and I am very thankful for that but I have heard it as an excuse in other sports. I have heard of conversations with baseball players who swear that it would be impossible to make their High School or Jr. College team with out doing PED's, not to mention the Majors. I'm sure this attitude isn't exclusive to baseball either and happens within different populations throughout virtually every sport.

I guess we're stuck with it though. I'm glad Ramzi got caught because it validates the whole testing process. Taking drug tests isn't my favorite thing to do and I hate trying to remember to update USADA every time I leave home for a day or two but knowing that cheaters are getting caught validates my doing so. I certainly don't feel bad for Ramzi but I hope that his coach, manager, teammates or anyone else that knew what he was doing or facilitated him doing so gets punished too. I know he wasn't alone in the process. On one hand I hope that this is the beginning but on the other hand I hope that there aren't too many others out there that are stilll cheating.

Maybe he'll grow boobs like Marilyn Manson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkw4_lXx4bQ



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#35
Dad   September 17 at 9:33pm
It is very much like his Irish impulses. He has a big problem with impulses, illustrated by his first car and the multiple laptops he has walked away from because they so underperformed.
Because of his anger/short temper expect he has acted on his Irish impulse to hit his wife.
Multiple times. I just wonder if he has hit his child as his father hit him. This was intentionally preditory on behalf of "dad" because he was the only one to get hit.
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#34
Seriously Bryan?   September 6 at 9:02pm
True, everyone does produce EPO. But taking EPO raises the levels in your body to unnaturally high levels. You could say the same thing about testosterone or hgh. Our bodies produce it, but taking PEDs boost the levels of these substances to unnaturally high levels and as a result, performance does improve. Sounds like you're the one who isn't a physiologist...
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#33
Ramzi Is Dead   August 3 at 4:14pm
stupid ramzi
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#32
Bryan Spreitzer   July 10 at 3:52pm
scott you arent a physiologist are you? everybody produces epo! if we didnt have it our bones wouldnt produce rbc's. i love what you have to say but a scientist you are not (a philosopher? maybe)
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#31
Nice Article   May 3 at 1:14am
nice to hear an elite runner's perspective on this. most of the time you just hear the commentators giving the same commentaries on this stuff. keep up the hard work scott. anyone that has ever worked hard at something knows it pays off, and those that haven't are usually in the camp that thinks everyone is on drugs.
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#30
Glad He Got Caught   May 2 at 9:20pm
I remember watching the world chmaps in 2005.. First year ElG sat out and the events opened up.. He ran a PR in the 1500 and got gold.. Then ran through the heats of the 800 running PR's and eventually the gold. In one heat he ran from 100 meters around the turn and across the track to lane 8 and finished in lane 8 I believe with anouther PR and walked off the track. Like he was being inconvenienced for having to run the heats. Sad that so many knew he was dirty before he finally got caught.. Makes you wonder how many have cheated and havent gotten caught
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#29
BrianM   May 2 at 8:37pm
Great blog, very well put. I dont understand how a runner can truly be proud of winning or setting a record when they did it with drugs. To me, running is all about pushing yourself and individual improvement and success, not cheating to beat your opponent
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#28
Scott Bauhs   May 2 at 5:15pm
I also think that if you lifted a ban on PED's the drugs would get more dangerous.
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#27
Scott Bauhs   May 2 at 5:13pm
I hope that lifting a ban on PED's is never considered because if you lift the ban then you make it very difficult for athletes like me to chose not to do these PED's. The long term effects of the 'recreational' use of these drugs is not known. They are meant to save the lives of people with cancer, not to make people faster. Right now I have faith that only a minority of athletes use drugs, but if I knew that a majority did it would be a very different sport. I would basically have the choice of risking my life, praying that I could compete without PED's or choosing a different career. With the Drugs Banned, the choice is very easy.
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#26
Scott Bauhs   May 2 at 5:08pm
I have faith that WADA/USADA are terrified of banning innocent people from the sport. I'm not geneticist but I hope that if there are people out there that produce epo naturally that WADA has accounted for it and allows them to continue to compete. If it were really an issue I'm sure it would be well publicized by now.
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#25
Devil's Advocate   May 2 at 4:37pm
taking argument further(not sure this is neccessary);allow worlds best to consume what they wish-assuming no rejection-most naturally talented would still come out on top-is training cheating? altitude training? knowing how long the race distance is? allowing successfull athletic couples to have kids?
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#24
Harry X   May 2 at 4:24pm
i've brought that same comment up in danney mackey's articles. it does seem a little unfair if someone is born with a gene that endcodes for a protein that manufactures an EPO like substance within the body.
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#23
Devil's Advocate   May 2 at 3:42pm
missing the point methinks(part political correctness tho); how is being born with more talent/ability any fairer on less talented athletes with the same degree of determination than the drug cheating being fair on non dopers? both are a form of in built discrimination ;only one is more overt discrimination-economists might term ban on drugs a form of genetic protectionism-people react positively to a supplement which claims to make u smarter ie;fish oil yet are openly hostile to physical performance enhancers?
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#22
Scott Bauhs   May 2 at 3:41pm
I don't know how they chose who to retest. It seems as if they focused on endurance events but they did nab a weight lifter for what its worth. At first I was going to say that they probably focused on medalists but they also got the Croatian 800 runner and she didn't come close to the podium.
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#21
Reliant Aries   May 2 at 3:08pm
How many out-of-competition tests did Ramzi and the other Africans take through the year? In-competition testing catches the reckless and the stupid. Then there's the fact - as pointed out here http://theviewfromthefinishline.blogspot.com/2009/04/ioc-retest-catches-3-track-and-field.html - that they only targeted endurance events for CERA testing, so everyone who used for any other event got away with it. Pretty lax on the part of the powers that be, they just do the most token testing to try to give the appearance that they're genuinely interested in catching dopers. Don't just test Scotty Bauhs 5+ times in out-of-competition testing, test all the Africans and Europeans scrambling to America to make a buck on the roads every month of the year.
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#20
Harry X   May 1 at 3:21pm
If Ramzi had been caught sooner, lagat would have made it to the final. thats dissapointing. (lagat was the first-non qualifier for the final and missed it by .02 seconds).
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#19
Thomas Guilfoyle   May 1 at 2:52pm
Scott Bauhs said:
yep, were on the same page. EPO certainly makes people better, very quickly too... but that doesn't mean I can't beat people taking EPO.
it does but as we have agreed it will only get some people so far,
and people who cheat have and will still be beaten by honest clean athletes
if that wasnt the case Id stop being a athlete and a true fan of the sport.

sure look at Vanja Perisic (one of the other CERA EPO cheats)
she didnt get out of the 1st round,
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#18
Scott Bauhs   May 1 at 2:30pm
yep, were on the same page. EPO certainly makes people better, very quickly too... but that doesn't mean I can't beat people taking EPO.
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#17
Niall   May 1 at 2:20pm
Yep me again. This is something that my father used to tell me - "No matter how much you train you'll never turn a donkey into a thoroughbred race horse" Not sure who he was refering to there :) From what I understand about EPO use is this if you take that 15 mile run and run it at the same effort it used to take you to run 10 miles, your recovery time would the same as it would be for 10 miles. Now I may have that wrong.
If you take someone like Lombard who went from being a good national class runner to an international class runner in the space of 10 weeks, there is no way (in my mind) that you could do that in the same time frame clean. Could he have gotten there clean? - its possible but it may have taken years rather than months.

I'm all for racing cleanly, wouldn't even enter my mind to cheat. Anyways that my 2 cents worth
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#16
Scott Bauhs   May 1 at 2:02pm
Hey thanks for that link. I read it and it said that it increases the time to exhaustion by 54%. Once again I'm no scientist but I would take this to mean that it would make it so that I would be able to do 15 mile tempo runs with the same effort that I do 10 mile tempos now, or that I could do 9 by a mile in the same pace that I do 6 by a mile now. Obviously this would be a huge advantage in training. The article does not say that It would make someone 54 percent faster though.
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#15
Leo   May 1 at 1:28pm
Folks,

What happens if Ramzi's B sample comes back negative. Do we apologize and just go about our business? I have not read that he has made any type of statement. His best advise is to stay quiet until the B sample is revealed. Of course if it is negative than proceed to state your innocents.
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Niall   May 1 at 1:17pm
Hi Scott - Great post. I saw this articule on how much something like EPO could give you up to a 54% performance increase. http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/effect-of-epo-on-performance-who.html

But at your level even a 1 or 2% increase is a huge amount over the next guy. If Drugs don't make you superhuman then why are so many willing to risk them? I guess this raises a larger question.
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#13
Michael Koral   May 1 at 1:11pm
rite on scotty
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#12
Jayson   May 1 at 12:50pm
Great post Scott. Good luck in your next race.
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#11
What To Do   May 1 at 12:28pm
Considering how many drugs are floating in our drinking water I wouldn't be surprised if we all tested positive for EPO or CERA. Just kidding, just kidding.

Great article Scott. It is important that more and more athletes publicly speak out against drug use in sport.
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#10
Mark   May 1 at 12:14pm
An interesting post by a great young champion.

Best of luck in marriage.
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Scott Bauhs   May 1 at 10:56am
Of course if Cathal wasn't caught and continued doing what he was doing he may have turned into a 12:50 guy, its impossible to say. I still stand behind my general belief that Drugs don't turn average people into super-humans.
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Scott Bauhs   May 1 at 10:54am
I have no idea what Marilyn Manson is doing. I've heard of Cathal Lombard, and I knew he had crazy improvements but I wasn't sure the extent. It is arguable that 14:12 to 13:19 is comparable to 3:39 to World Champ/Olympic gold. It is still impossible to say what Cathal could have improved to naturally. Say he could have been a 13:40 runner naturally then EPO gives him 20 seconds. Maybe he would have peaked out at 14:12... but I doubt it.

I have no science base to any of my numbers but I doubt Cathal or Ramzi reached their Peaks before they started doing drugs.
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#7
Al   May 1 at 9:54am
Nice blog, but I sure wish I hadn't clicked on that Marilyn Manson link!
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#6
Robert Lee   May 1 at 4:50am
Marilyn Manson still around? I thought he was playing state fairs nowdays.
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#5
Thomas Guilfoyle   May 1 at 2:02am
great blog scotty,
cathal Lombard, who was very an average irish athlete

went from 14.12 to 13.19.22 over 5k
and 30.35.96 to 28.05.07 over the space of 10weeks!!!
on epo,
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#4
Russell W. Zillgitt   May 1 at 1:02am
Great blog Scott.
Check out my blogs at http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/xcrussell
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Scott Bauhs   May 1 at 12:12am
That is a very good point. it is possible that he could be cleared by his B sample. Either way his career will never be the same again.
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#2
Anonymous Coward   April 30 at 11:40pm
Dont forget that his b sample may be negative, bernard lagat tested positve for epo!
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MeghanJacob   April 30 at 11:38pm
Good blog, love the emphasis on "anyone who keeps working hard can possibly run that fast anyway, so why the drugs?"
Not everyone is going to be a champion and found myself nodding through the whole post, especially the statement about running to be the best to the specific individuals' ability. That's what this sport is.
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