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Pat Hitchins http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1620-flonetwork-website-builder Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:21:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/2693-david-nightingale The USATF Club XC Championships in Lexington Ky Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/2693-david-nightingale Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:27:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/6066-matt-zielske Practicing my splicing, mashing, overlaying and all around editing. Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/6066-matt-zielske Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:25:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236104-zatopek10-2009 Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236104-zatopek10-2009 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:15:12 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/898-ryan-fenton Flotrack will be on site at the 2009 USTFCCCA Annual Convention starting Monday, December 14th and going through Thursday, December 17th. We will provide a LIVE broadcast of the first ever Bowerman Award along with the 2009 Hall of Fame Inductions, both of which will be aired on Wednesday evening. We'll be with the best coaches from the NCAA and able to get some great interviews. So who do you want to hear from, what would ask some of these coaches? Let us know and we'll try to get the scoop from the coaches you want to hear from. We'll also try to get 2010 season outlooks from the coaches as we head into the Indoor Track season. Should be a great week! Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/898-ryan-fenton Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:57:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/2693-david-nightingale Men's Open 10k @ Club Cross. The wind picked up as the race went one. Over-all, a fast field. Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/2693-david-nightingale Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:27:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/play/230011 Kramer trippin on Da Vinci's code. Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/play/230011 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:17:43 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/1293-kara-june The women's open race. Sorry about the blair witch style camera, no tripod. Will have a better set up next time. Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/1293-kara-june Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:13:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1615-boulder-running-co-defends-womens-team-title-zap-fitness-men-win-3rd-team LEXINGTON - The women of Boulder Running Company/adidas successfully defended their title and the Zap Fitness men won their third team championship in four years Saturday at the USATF National Club Cross Country Championships at Masterson Station Park in Lexington, Ky. The 12th annual USATF National Club Cross Country Championships featured mare than 1,000 athletes representing America's top post-collegiate club teams from across the United States.  Athletes competed for a total prize purse of $30,000, as well as team and individual titles at 10-kilometer for men and 6-kilometer for women. In the open women's race, Serena Burla (Ellisville, Mo.), used the final one-kilometer uphill to pull away for the individual title, running 20:23 for the 6 km course.  Kim Conley (West Sacramento, Calif.) took the runner-up spot, finishing in 20:36 as Alissa McKaig (Blowing Rock, N.C.) finished third in 20:38.   In the team race the Boulder Running Company/adidas had more of a fight on their hands as they dueled with McMillan Elite through mid-race before pulling away for a 15 point win.  The Asics Aggies took third with 109 points. In the men's open race, David Jankowski (Blowing Rock, N.C.) made a decisive move at 4.5 miles to pull away from Josh Simpson (Morgantown, W.V.) for the individual win, running 29:18 for a nine second win over Simpson.  Jankowski's teammate David Nightingale (Blowing Rock, N.C.) took third in 29:40 to help solidify ZAP's 32 point team victory over Boulder Running Company/adidas.  International City Racing Track Club finished third in the team standings with 96 points. In the day's opening race, Laura Haefeli (Del Norte, Colo.) unseated defending masters 6 km champion Carmen Ayala-Troncoso (Austin, Texas), for the overall masters win.   Troncoso won the individual age-group title in the 50-54 division.  Other age-group winners included Karen Steen (Olympia Wash.) in the 45-49 age-group; Katherine Martin (Northport, N.Y.) in the 55-59 division; Sabra Harvey (Houston, Texas) in the 60-64 division; Betty Valent (Boulder, Colo.) in the 65-69 division; and, Madeline Bost (Randolph, N.J.) in the 70-74 division. Team champions included Club Northwest in the 40-49 team division and the Impala Racing Team captured titles in both the 50-59 and 60+ team divisions. 2009 USA Masters Marathon champion Tracy Lokken (Marquette, Mich.) took advantage of the final uphill to break away from Chad Newton (Pisgah Forest, N.C.) and in the final 400 meters defending champion Simon Gutierrez over took Newton to claim the runner-up position. Lokken was timed in 32:10 with Gutierrez and Newton finishing in 32:14 and 32:18 respectively. Other individual age-group titles went to Peter Magill (South Pasadena, Calif.) in the 45-49 division; Joe Sheeran (Ellensburg, Wash.) in the 50-54 division; John Barbour (Gloucester, Mass.) in the 55-59 division; William Dixon (Brattleboro, Vt.) in the 60-64 division; Doug Goodhue (Milford, Mich.) in the 65-69 division; Thom Weddle (Minneapolis, Minn.) in the 70-74 division; and Bill Iffrig (Everett, Wash.) in the 75-79 division. Team titles were won by the Atlanta Track Club in the 40-49 division; Green Mountain AC in the 50-59 division; Raritan Valley Road Runners in the 60-69 division; and the Snohomish TC in the 70+ division. For more information and video interviews from the USATF National Club Cross Country Championships, please visit www.usatf.org. USATF Press http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1615-boulder-running-co-defends-womens-team-title-zap-fitness-men-win-3rd-team Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:22:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236117-fenton-sleepy-sleep Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236117-fenton-sleepy-sleep Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:12:44 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236113-2010-washington-outdoor-track-and-field-state-championships 2009 WA Outdoor Coverage 2008 WA Outdoor Coverage WA State Records Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236113-2010-washington-outdoor-track-and-field-state-championships Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:58:26 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/photos/album_assoc/234547 Photos from...Flotrack coverage of the 2010 Maryland Outdoor State Track and Field Championships hosted by Morgan State University in Baltimore, MD. 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Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/photos/album_assoc/234544 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:27:09 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236111-2010-maryland-indoor-track-and-field-state-championships 2009 MD Indoor Coverage   2010 MD Outdoor Coverage 2009 MD Outdoor Coverage 2008 MD Outdoor Coverage   Maryland Indoor Track State Meet Info/Standards   Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236111-2010-maryland-indoor-track-and-field-state-championships Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:20:33 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1610-rebecca-lowe-kwik-e <!-- @page { size: 8.5in 11in; margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> University of Florida's Rebecca Lowe, a Sydney, Australia native, was part of a team that turned a lot of heads at the NCAA Pre-National Meet by taking second in the White Race. Lowe was the second Gator when she finished ninth overall in 20 minutes, 51.1 seconds over the 6,000-meter course. At the NCAA Championships, she grabbed an All-American finish with a 15th-place result, running 20:18.8. Lowe provided her answers via e-mail and is looking for a 3,000 time in the low nines this indoor season. Let's see how she does! Florida was ranked pretty high throughout the season and a seventh-place finish is probably not what your team was looking for. Can you talk about what happened on the team side of things at NCAAs? Realistically we didn’t have a certain goal or expectation, but, yeah, we were all pretty disappointed with seventh. We finished in the top 10—which was a first for Florida—but I think we are definitely a top-five team. As we all know it was a day of upsets and I think on any given day there were about 10 teams that could have finished on the podium. Basically, we had an average day and we have no excuses—we just felt that most of us didn’t happen to have our best day out there and these things happen. Unfortunately for us it was at NCAAs. The exciting thing is that we have great depth and only lose one girl from our roster. So, we are looking for bigger and better things to come next year. We’ll regroup for track season and be raring to go next fall. Can you talk about your individual race? I was happy to be All-American, but I would have liked to finish higher. Leading up to this race at SECs and Regionals, I had felt very comfortable. Those races were really relaxed and controlled so I was ready for a big one with some tough competition, however it wasn’t meant to be. At about the 3K mark, I could see the pack that I wanted to be running with but I wasn’t feeling my usual jumpy self and basically felt like the race was a struggle. So, I just tried to maintain my composure and not stress too much so I would still finish high enough for the team. I also think that not competing for an entire year was a factor as it’s been a long time that I have been in a very competitive environment like that. Maybe I just didn’t have that extra race experience that I needed for a big meet like that. What was it like when you saw the strong favorite, Olympian and American Record Holder Jenny Barringer, falling back through the crowd of runners? Yeah that was so weird. It just shows that anything can happen! Even with the experience and race competition that Jenny has, it showed that she is human and that pressure can get to anyone. At that moment I was running next to the Colorado freshman, and I heard people say, “just don’t worry and focus on yourself”, so I took that into mind too and just tried to focus on myself because at that moment I was trying to just maintain my composure too. Jenny is an amazing athlete and for her to get back up after collapsing is very impressive. To even make it to the finish line for her team shows the courage and strength she has. It takes a lot of pride to finish a race like that after so much hype, so I’ve got to commend her on that. Can you explain your nerves, training and expectations leading up to NCAAs? My week has been just like any other as I tried to not get worked up too much. I don’t want to waste too much energy on nerves. As a team, we just try to keep the same routine all week but we back off our mileage a little and ease off our runs. Myself, I was pretty excited as it's been two years since I was in a big race like this. I was excited to run with the best in the nation! But yes, definitely nervous too! Can you explain your training? This semester I was getting up to about 60 miles a week with a little less on race weeks. My basic week is usually: Monday—Workout on golf course, which is usually some type of fartlek session. Then we come back in the afternoon for an easy jog and simple body strength exercises. Tuesday—50 minutes. Wednesday—70 minutes. Thursday—Workout that is some type of interval session or tempo. Friday—50 minutes. Saturday—85 minutes. Sunday—off or easy jog. This year coach and I made sure I took it easy over summer and slowly built up my mileage throughout this semester as we didn’t want to take any risks with getting injured. I’ve also made sure to focus on things like stretching, icing and nutrition. What brought you to Florida from Australia? In Australia we don’t have a college sports system like the U.S., so if I was at home, I’d just be running with an outside running coach and would go to university with no financial support. So, the opportunity to come to the U.S. was something I couldn’t pass on. Also coming to the U.S. has been a big eye-opener in terms of the competition as we’re a small country back home. There's a limited amount of competitive races. I chose Florida because it has everything—perfect weather, awesome coaches, great facilities and really supportive teammates. It’s also the best academic school in Florida, so that was an added bonus too. I’m so happy to be here and wouldn’t have chosen anywhere else. What are your hobbies when you get free time? In my free time I’m usually just chilling at home or trying to keep in contact with people back home through Facebook. Also the girls and the guys on the team are all really good friends so we always hang out together. We’re a pretty close team. We usually do team dinners and stuff like that but I’m a hopeless cook and pretty lazy when it comes to cooking (my roommates will confirm that). I'm generally the kitchen supervisor. What are your goals come the indoor and outdoor seasons? This track season I’d like to go low nine minutes in the 3K and 15:40s in the 5K. It’s been so long since I’ve raced on a track, so I’ll see what happens indoors and then Coach Morgan and I will plan some goals for outdoor track. But I’d love to be on the podium. If you could have one meal, prepared by anyone, what would you have and who would make it? I think there’s nothing better than having an Aussie Barbie (barbecue) and a lamb on the spit, cooked by my dad. Oh, and kangaroo (yum—no, just kidding!). Anyway, it’s pretty cool, he’ll buy a massive whole lamb and cook it for like five hours out in the backyard—combined with some barbeque chicken and steak—it’s awesome! Can you give me a crazy, wild running-related story? Well, I think the reason for me being injured last year is pretty crazy. I now consider myself an awesome motorcycle driver. Not! I am now known by most of my teammates as a klutz. I think if any activity has a slight risk involved, I am bound to do something stupid. It was the start of the cross country season and I was raring to go after a really good freshman track season. Anyways I don’t think Coach Morgan could of asked for a better start to the season—it's the beginning of September 2008 and we are sitting in the emergency section of the hospital (I fell off a scooter)—with my legs wrapped in bandages and waiting to get stitches in my elbow where I cut open my bursa. Let me say it was a very painful next few months of a long and slow rehab process. Very frustrating! About the Running Warehouse: My KWIK-Es are sponsored by runningwarehouse.com, located on the California coast in the small community of San Luis Obispo. The folks over there include one of the owners, Joe Rubio, a two hour, 18 minute marathoner and current head coach of the Asics Aggie RC. Jonathan Spiros oversees footwear buying and served many years as assistant coach at College Park High School helping Lindsay Allen. Erik Dube is in charge of accessories and helps with footwear buying. Erik has finished the Western States 100-Mile Race several times and was assistant coach at San Ramon Valley High School helping Scott Bauhs through high school. Erik’s wife, Tera, is in charge of customer service and is an ultra marathoner and former track star at Campolindo High School, where her brother Chuck Woolridge is currently head coach. Kara June handles web content. Kara was 6th at the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials in the steeplechase. Kara was also third overall at Last Fall’s USATF Club Cross Country Championships. The entire online and phone customer service representative staff at the Running Warehouse, including the staff listed above, have spent considerable time working the retail floor. This, along with the coaching and personal athletic experience, enables the company to have a unique perspective of understanding the needs of every level of runner from beginner to All-American. Check them out when you get a chance!     <!-- @page { size: 8.5in 11in; margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } -->   <!-- @page { size: 8.5in 11in; margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } -->   Tony Casey http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1610-rebecca-lowe-kwik-e Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:00:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1611-national-club-cross-country-titles-on-the-line-this-weekend INDIANAPOLIS - Defending women's team champions Boulder Running Company/adidas and two-time men's national team titlists ZAP Fitness (Blowing Rock, N.C.) will join more than 100 USATF clubs Saturday at the 2009 USATF National Club Cross Country Championships at Masterson Station Park in Lexington, Ky. The 12th annual USATF National Club Cross Country Championships features America's top post-collegiate club teams from across the United States vying for top honors and bragging rights as the nation's top cross country team. More than 1,000 competitors are expected at the event, which features a 10-kilometer men's race and a 6-kilometer women's race.  Clubs will compete for a total prize purse of $30,000, with $25,000 going to the top open teams. Looking to win their third team title, ZAP Fitness will have to contend with a strong squad from the Asics Aggie Running Club (Martinez, Calif.), Club Northwest (Seattle, Wash.) and 2000 team champions Wisconsin Runner Racing Team (Madison, Wis.).    Challenging for the individual title will be David Jankowski of Zap Fitness, who recently finished third at the historic Manchester Road Race.  Jankowski will face the Aggie's Sergio Reyes and Phil Reid as well as the Boston Athletic Association's Lucas Meyer.   On the women's side, 2009 World Championships marathoner Tera Moody will lead the women of the Boulder Running Company/adidas as they defend their national title. Challenging for the women's team title will be the ladies of the Boston Athletic Association as they seek their fourth team crown.  The women of McMillan Elite (Flagstaff, Ariz.) are also expected to contend for the team title.   Moody will also be in contention for the individual title along with Kasie Enman of the Boston Athletic Association, and Lindsay Allen of McMillan Elite.   Masters action   National titles are also on the line for teams in masters age divisions starting at age 40+.   Among the leading teams in the masters races will be men's teams from the Front Line Racing Team (Allen Park, Mich.), Dirigo R.C. (Falmouth, Maine), Genesee Valley Harriers (Rochester, N.Y.) and Fleet Feet Boulder Racing Team (Boulder, Colo.).   Top masters women's teams will include the Impala Racing Team (San Francisco, Calif.), See Jane Run (Santa Monica, Calif.) and Club Northwest (Seattle, Wash.).   Action at Masterson Station Park gets underway at 9:30 am with the community 6 km run.  The masters women's 6 km starts at 10:30 am, followed by the masters men's 10 km at 11:30 am.  The open women's 6 km begins at 12:45 pm, with the open men's 10 km concluding the day's activities at 1:30 pm.   For more information about the USATF National Club Cross Country Championships, please visitwww.usatf.org. About USA Track & Field USA Track & Field (USATF) is the National Governing Body for track and field, long-distance running and race walking in the United States. USATF encompasses the world's oldest organized sports, some of the most-watched events of Olympic broadcasts, the #1 high school and junior high school participatory sport and more than 30 million adult runners in the United States.  For more information on USATF, visit www.usatf.org USATF Press http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1611-national-club-cross-country-titles-on-the-line-this-weekend Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:48:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1612-flanagan-enters-usa-half-marathon-championships U.S. long distance running standout Shalane Flanagan (Pittsboro, N.C.), who won a bronze medal in the 10,000 meters at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, will make her half-marathon debut on January 17 at the 2010 USA Half Marathon Championships hosted by the Aramco Houston Half Marathon.   The 28-year-old Flanagan has been one of the best middle-distance runners in the U.S. over the past six years, making two Olympic teams and setting American records on the track at 3,000, 5,000 and 10,000 meters. Flanagan was the USA champion at 5,000 meters in 2005 and 2007, before winning the U.S. Olympic Trials at 10,000 meters in 2008. That victory sent her to Beijing, where she became only the second American woman in history to medal in that event at the Olympic Games. Her American Record of 30:22:22 run in China still stands.   Joining Flanagan on the starting line at the championships will be the top two finishers from the 2009 national championships.Magdalena Lewy Boulet (Oakland, Calif.), who crossed the finish line in 1:11:47, will be back to defend her title, and runner-up Kelly Jaske (Portland, Ore.) also will be among the top seeds in the race.   Among the men currently committed to run in the National Championship race are 2008 Half Marathon champion James Carney (Lafayette, Colo.), along with Josh Moen and Patrick Smyth (both Minneapolis, Minn.), who finished second and third respectively in the 2009 USA 10 Mile Championships.   Gotcher steps up to marathon  Brett Gotcher (Flagstaff, Ariz.), who finished third in the 2009 USA Half Marathon Championships, will return to Houston in January, but will move up in distance. The 25-year-old Gotcher will make his marathon debut as one of the top seeds in the 38th running of the Chevron Houston Marathon.   The former Stanford University All-American at 10,000 meters won his first national road title in September, claiming the 20 km crown in 58:57 in New Haven, Conn.   Houston is hosting the men's half marathon championships for the sixth consecutive year, while the city is home to the women's title race for the fourth straight time.For more information on the 2010 USA Half Marathon Championships, visit: www.usatf.org. USATF Press http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/1612-flanagan-enters-usa-half-marathon-championships Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:11:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Justin Kopunek/9693-can-foot-locker-nationals-and-nike-cross-nationals-coexist Another thrilling NCAA Cross Country Championship weekend has passed and the top teams and individuals in each division came out to a run in a winner take all race. There is no disputing who was best on those days. But what if college cross country was run differently and the best in the country were split between two meets. Seems like a ridiculous proposal, right? But that is how things have shaped up for high school cross country. For decades, the Foot Locker (originally Kinney) Cross Country National Championships brought together America’s best high school distance runners to crown a national champion. Winning that title is the single most coveted prize in the sport and was one of the few, true national championships for a high school sport. A Foot Locker champion instantly becomes one of the hottest recruiting commodities in the distance running ranks. As time went on, national championships in indoor and outdoor track arose, but no single title held as much prestige as the Foot Locker title. With 30 championships run and 60 champions crowned, this national meet was groundbreaking in the history of high school running. As the preeminent high school championship, however, there was one thing that had been overlooked; cross country is just as much a team sport, as it is an individual sport. World Cross, NCAA XC, and every state meet recognize both the team and individual aspect of the sport. Because of many states’ regulations on inter-state team competitions, a team national championship may not have been a realistic option in 1979. Since then, however, some reform and the ability to run for a ‘club’ instead of your high school at the track national championships made the idea more feasible. In 2004, Nike decided to fill the void left in the high school national running landscape and host a cross country team championship. No longer would rankings determine who the best team in the country was as Nike Team Nationals selected the best teams from around the country to compete in Oregon for a national championship. Invitations were chosen by committee based on how a team performed during the season. There was little conflict with the Foot Locker Championships. The meets even worked together. Because the championships were on the same day as the FL West Regional, the top 2 individual from each of the 4 FL Regions at NTN would qualify for FLN the following week. A handful of runners at NTN were Foot Locker caliber, so it was certainly a worthy compromise. This is when the Foot Locker meet went from 36 competitors to 40. The relationship would not remain quite as beneficially symbiotic in the following years. In 2007, NTN added regional meets to the qualifying procedure in order to remedy any unfairness with the selection based on rankings procedure. The new regional meets in many regions conflicted with the Foot Locker Region meets. Before, national caliber athletes on top teams could qualify for Foot Locker, then run NTN with their team, and then run FLN the following week with out any conflicts. Now they had to choose if they would run the NTN Regional meet and help their team qualify, or take a shot at qualifying for Foot Locker Nationals individually. Most chose to run with their teams, but the drawback is if your team did not qualify, these top-notch athletes were left home from both NTN and FLN. To fix that problem, Nike added 5 individual qualifiers from each region in 2008, so if a team failed to qualify, their top runner(s) may still be rewarded with a trip to Oregon. The meet is now run, essentially, like the NCAA Championships and has changed its name to Nike Cross Nationals or NXN, for short. With individuals added to the younger meet, these two championships went from serving different purposes entirely to overlapping quite a bit. For a few regions, athletes can run the regionals and finals of both meets, but the majority has some conflict. On top of that, for an athlete to run two regional and two national meets, in addition to the regular season, can be a tad much for a high school runner. There is no issue with the top teams, as NXN is the only championship that crowns the nation’s best HS cross country team. Individually, however, we will no longer get to see all of the nation’s best cross country runners competing head-to-head, as long as both meets are held. With this being the case, can these championships coexist harmoniously? Each meet certainly has its place in cross country. Foot Lockers has the history. Whoever wins this race is still considered the best cross country runner in the nation. It is an institution in American distance running and laid the groundwork for future national championships in other HS sports. Just look at some of these Foot Locker alumni; Meb Keflezighi, Dathan Ritzenhein, Alan Webb, Matt Tegenkamp, Ian Dobson, Josh Rohatinsky, Ryan Hall, Chris Solinsky, Lopez Lomong, Galen Rupp, Josh McDougal, Steve Slattery, Jorge Torres, Adam Goucher, Alan Culpepper, Louie Quintana, Bob Kennedy, Marc Davis, Jenny Barringer, Deena Kastor, Jen Rhines, Sara Hall, Amy Rudolph, Kara Goucher, Sara Slattery, Lauren Fleshman, Suzy Favor Hamilton, Christin Wurth-Thomas, and Erin Donohue. It is hard to argue with the impact these names have had on US Distance running. Certainly being exposed in high school to the high level of competition and amazing atmosphere created by Foot Locker prepared these future stars for what was to come. Not only that, it fosters an interest in the sport and shows these elites how many wonderful doors can be opened with their talent and hard work. But there are hundreds of thousands of high schoolers who compete in cross country/track each year and the majority of them, no matter how hard they work, just do not have the natural abilities it takes to become a Foot Locker Finalist. What NXN has done, however, has given these runners something to strive for. Now a group of young runners can say, “By senior year, our team is going to qualify for nationals,” and then go out and try to do it. As a group they can train diligently and have the chance to improve to a level that will give them the opportunity to compete on the national stage. Like the saying, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Even if they never do qualify, they will be better for trying and they went for it because their was an attainable brass ring to reach for. For those who do qualify, now the fifth man on a team is treated as equally as the race favorites. They all get to see what opportunities are created by hard work and a passion for the sport. The younger a deep seeded interest in running can be planted, the better it is for the sport. Beyond elite runners, the sport needs tons of other passionate people; the supporting cast on college teams, coaches, fans, trainers, agents, athletic wear employees, members of the media who actually care about the sport, race directors, and parents who instill a love of running in their children. So they each have their place in high school cross country and I think that the sport is richer for it. Because there are two championships, is the talent pool diluted a little? Sure. Will we have unanswered questions like, “What would have happened if Reed Connor had raced Solomon Haile and Trevor Dunbar?” Absolutely. But that just makes their match-ups in track and in college that much more exciting. Between Foot Locker Nationals and Nike Cross Nationals (including the 8th-Man Race that is held) over 500 high school students get to run at a national meet, be treated like a star for a weekend, and dream of the possibilities to come each year. Add on top of that the thousands of students that can run at the regional meets and you have a ripple effect that may just be what this sport needs in America. Maybe one day the meets will merge, or one will absorb the other, or one will fade out, but for now we can enjoy two weekends of top level high school distance running. What do you think, can FLN and NXN coexist? Justin Kopunek http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Justin Kopunek/9693-can-foot-locker-nationals-and-nike-cross-nationals-coexist Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:13:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Ryan From Flotrack/9514-happy-turkey-day The holidays are upon us and I think its needed for many of us out there. For myself, the travels have been plentiful throughout the fall, but always enjoyable. However, there's nothing like coming home and seeing your laundry already folded and a refrigerator stocked full of food....I mean is there anything better?? Friends and family are an important part of life. They are our support system and help keep us grounded. I don't get home much but I am always thankful to get back to Maine to share a special meal with the fam and play some football with some of my closest friends (Turkey Bowl 2009!!...the pic above is from '07). I'm always torn, being a runner, that I've never done a Turkey Trot (crazy right?!?!) but there's is nothing like kicking my butt once a year on the gridiron during a cold early morning in Cape Elizabeth. We recently had our third anniversary as many of you know and even more recent, a huge day at Flotrack with the NCAA Cross Country Championships. A lot of exciting stuff and I crazy day on Monday for sure! I feel like we've always had a great community involved since day one and it continues to this day. From supporting our site and what we do, to supporting the athletes we speak with....you are still the reason we have been able to do so much. In the same way I spoke about family earlier, I am thankful we have such a loyal and positive support system in you. We all go through rough patches and bumpy roads, its part of life. I know for myself, I have "off days" with Flotrack and encounter hard times in my travels. There's nothing more uplifting than meeting members of the community and hearing their support to our efforts. From the guy that traveled from Louisiana to the Cowboy Jamboree to the Albany grad at the Memphis Twilight to all the coaches who welcome us on campus to the athletes that welcome us into their homes....and I can't forget Mama Dorni who is so supportive on the site and at the events....you are all the reason we stay motivated to do what we do. I am thankful there is such positive energy in track and field, I couldn't imagine doing anything else. As we enter the holidays, make sure you thank those who motivate you in your lives and those who make up your support system. I have learned there isn't one person that can do it alone and sometimes we forgot to thank those who help us the most. I thank my parents for always believing in me, I know it would be hard for many parents out there to hear their child is quitting a good job to move across the country with a video camera and live in someone's living room...but they have alway been behind me 100%! I thank Mark and Martin who started with an idea to do something meaningful and to fight through when people doubted them....I thank them because I have been able to be a part of something special and something I believe in. I am thankful for our "weekend warriors" and contributors, the people that help keep Flotrack fun, exciting, and always moving forward. And as I said above, I am thankful for the community, you are a great collection of people that make what we do worth it. And I can't forget to thank my friends for tomorrow, who will allow me to whoop them on the field as I become the first person to win three Turkey Bowl MVP Awards! (that's just me talking smack!) ;) I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving and start to the holidays! We'll be seeing you on the track pretty soon... ? Ryan P.S. I'll try to post some video of the football game if I can. If you are running a race or have a tradition back, let us know how it went/what it is and through up your video in the comments below if you have one. Ryan From Flotrack http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Ryan From Flotrack/9514-happy-turkey-day Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:01:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Justin Kopunek/9387-2009-ncaa-cross-country-championships-preview The most exciting single race of the season for runners is only days away and there looks to be some awesome performances and battles you will not want to miss. Below I look at many of the top contenders for Monday with four titles up for grabs. I did not make any concrete rankings, or predictions as to not influence anyone who still may not have posted their picks for the Saucony NCAA Prediction Contest. Women's Team Race - 2008 Champions: Washington On the Podium: Oregon, Florida State, West Virginia This decade has been all about the repeat champions and the back-to-back wins for the women's team title at NCAAs. Since 2000, BYU won twice (in a row), Colorado won twice, Stanford won four times in 5 years, and Washington won last year. Based on this season's results so far, the Huskies look ready to close out the decade with another repeat team win. They return their 1-4 from last year's winning team and that is always a good sign that a back-to-back win is in the cards. They are undefeated this year and have 5 girls capable of placing in the top 25. Speaking of repeats, the Oregon women were runners-up the past two years and certainly do not want to play second fiddle for the third consecutive year. They have 3 potential top-10 girls (realistically, probably only 2 would end up there) and at Pac-10s they were the closest any team has gotten to Washington in the past 2 seasons; seven points back. The Ducks have not won a major meet yet this year and if nationals is their first team victory of the season, it will certainly be considered an upset for the ages. The team that seems most capable of dethroning Washington is Villanova. They are the only other undefeated team in the country. They crushed Oregon early at their home and destroyed one of the most competitive conferences and regions for women this year. At the Mid-Atlantic Regional, the Wildcats put 4 in front of Princeton’s #1. This is notable because Princeton is ranked #3 nationally, went 1-5 at the Heptagonal Championships, and their #1 runner was 15th at NCAAs last fall. To be that dominant over a team that has podium potential, like Princeton does, certainly sends a message that they will not concede the title in Terre Haute to the defending champs. Princeton has been close to the podium in recent years and that is certainly the objective for the Tigers this weekend. At regionals they beat a very good West Virginia team, which grabbed the last podium spot last year over Princeton. The Florida Gators beat Princeton at Pre-Nationals and Florida State at regionals. Florida State ran without their top runner at regionals, but this should not take away from the Gators’ win, as FSU would have lost even with her. The Colorado women surprised everyone when they easily beat Florida State at Pre-Nats. They faltered at the Big 12 Championships and lost to a very strong Texas Tech squad, but reversed the results at the Mountain Regional. The Buffaloes are certainly a team that has surprised people at nationals in years past and this team has some very low scorers among them. That is a key component to getting on the podium and winning a national title. Stanford also has a very solid team on paper, but injuries have set them back all season. They would need all their girls healthy and fit on the line Monday for a chance to do some real damage. <HR> Women's Individual Race - 2008 Champion: Sally Kipyego, Texas Tech Top Returners: Susan Kuijken, Florida St (2nd), Angela Bizzarri, Illinois (6th), Christine Babcock, Washington (7th), Alex Kosinski, Oregon (8th), Nicole Blood, Oregon (10th), Jenny Barringer, Colorado (2nd ’06 & ’07) It is like deja vu. Again a Big 12/Mountain Region runner is as much of a lock for the title as one can be in cross country and Florida State’s Susan Kuijken is the only one people are considering will have a chance to stick near her. Colorado’s Jenny Barringer of Colorado has been runner-up twice in this race (2006 and 2007) and she is running this fall as a Buffalo for one purpose; to win an NCAA Cross Country title to go with her 4 NCAA track titles and many NCAA records. It is the only accolade missing from her resume that will put her atop the list of greatest female distance runners in NCAA history. Kuijken has unfortunate timing as the only thing keeping her from multiple NCAA XC titles are 2 of the NCAA’s best in history (Sally Kipyego and Barringer). Do not get me wrong, Kuijken has 2 NCAA track titles, was 27th in cross as a frosh, 3rd the next year and 2nd last year. If she were to place second this Monday, she would easily have one of the most impressive NCAA Cross Country records that one could have, regardless of the fact that the women she lost to were so good. The only person other than Barringer that is undefeated this year is Villanova’s Sheila Reid. She is certainly a dark horse in this race and could turn some heads. Any of the Washington women’s top-5 is a top-10 threat. Christine Babcock was 7th last year and Kendra Schaaf has been their top runner most of the year. Schaaf likes to run in the front and push from the gun. Sometimes this works to her advantage, sometimes it does not. At Pac-10’s Oregon’s Nicole Blood ran her down and Angela Bizzarri of Illinois did the same at Pre-Nats. Blood has been top 10 in this race the past two years and her teammate Alex Kosinski joined her there last year. Even with that, neither may be the first Duck across the line as freshman phenom Jordan Hasay has been Oregon’s most consistent runner this season. Hasay looks to be the top true-frosh in the NCAA, but will get some competition form Colorado’s Allie McLaughlin who was 2nd in the Big 12 and 3rd in the Mountain Region. Bizzarri is also a returning top-10 finisher and has been having a good season so far. She did, however, lose the Big Ten crown to World Team member Bridget Franek of Penn State. Franek was back in fourth at the Mid-Atlantic Regional behind Reid and Amanda Marino of Villanova and Emily Infeld of Georgetown. Needless to say, there has been a lot of flip-flopping all season which means that there are a large number of girls capable of being in the top-10, but it will come down to who has it on Monday. Also in the running for a top spot based on their consistently good performances this fall are Megan Duwell of Minnesota, Catherine White of Virginia, Cecily Lemmon of BYU, Rebecca Lowe and Charlotte Browning of Florida, Risper Kimaiyo of UTEP, Lillian Badaru or Texas Tech, Emily MacLeod of Michigan State, Lisa Koll of Iowa State, and Janet Jesang of Western Kentucky. <HR> Men's Team Race - 2008 Champions: Oregon On the Podium: Iona, Stanford, Wisconsin The men’s race is definitely more wide open than the women’s race. The defending champions Oregon have lost a lot off the top and are very heavy with 1,500m runners this time around. Come track season, they will probably have killer relays, but on Monday the 10,000m distance will likely keep them from a ‘three-peat’. There are two teams, who have yet to race at the same meet, that look like the clear favorites to duke it out for that title. Stanford has been ranked #1 for most of the season and for good reason. This team has shown up to three of the most competitive races in the country (Pre-Nationals, Pac-10s, West Regional) and made it look like they were racing in dual meets. 28 points at Pac-10s! 27 points at the West Regional! In fact, if you scored the West Regional out like a dual meet of Stanford v. The Rest of the West, Stanford wins 29-30. That is ridiculous! This team has low scorers and depth, everything that makes up a national championship team. How will this not be a blow out for the Cardinal you may wonder? Well, Oklahoma State also has low scorers and depth. This team was supposed to make a run at Oregon last fall, but many feel they under-performed (a DNF did not help). This fall, with a magical 6th year for an All-American veteran and the arrival of an All-American sophomore transfer, they appear stronger than last year. The Cowboys have kept their cards close to their chest. While Stanford can not avoid heavy competition in their conference and region, OSU has gone the rout of pack running in its races this season. This has made it difficult to see just where their fitness is at. We can not tell who was close to maximum effort in these races and who was tempoing. They won their conference and region relatively easily and are certainly the team with the most unknowns going in to Monday. Beyond the top two, Oregon is still a very strong team with podium potential. They beat NCAA #3 ranked Alabama when they won their Pre-Nats race, but lost to Portland last weekend at regionals. Taking down the defending champs was definitely a confidence boost for the Pilots who got a help this season from two solid true freshmen. Alabama is also very good, but they will be hurt if some of the other teams get 2, 3, or even 4 in before their #1. The top four Mountain Region teams have been one giant jumble all year. It seems they have all beaten each other and been beaten by each other. BYU came out on top at regionals, but Colorado was only 1 point back and did not run one of their top runners. NAU is a great team on paper, but has had inconsistent performances from its scorers throughout the season, making it hard pinpoint just how high up they can place. New Mexico took down BYU at their conference meet, but may lack the low-scorers to end up the top Mountain Region team in Terre Haute. William & Mary and Syracuse are both strong pack teams that will not have guys in the top 15, but can stick five in the thick of the race with a very small spread. They will need that to be around the All-American cutoff to have a shot at the podium. The Tribe looked very good at the Southeast Regional and could be a threat come Monday. Iona and Wisconsin were podium teams last year, but have not been quite as good this season. Iona is rebuilding after the graduation on three All-Americans, however, they always peak well for NCAAs. Wisconsin has been steadily improving throughout the year and should place higher than their #10 ranking suggests they would. Both of these teams have been podium mainstays these past few years and know what they need to do to get the job done Monday. <HR> Men's Individual Race - 2008 Champion: Galen Rupp, Oregon Top Returners: Sam Chelanga, Liberty (2nd), Luke Puskedra, Oregon (5th), Chris Derrick, Stanford (7th), John Kosgei, Oklahoma St (8th), Andrew Bumbalough, Georgetown (13th), Jordan Kyle, Colorado (14th) Like last year, Liberty’s Sam Chelanga is one of the favorites to win individually, but his main competition is different this year. Only a sophomore, Stanford’s Chris Derrick is riding high on an undefeated season. One of his wins, at Pre-Nationals, came as he ran down Chelanga in the home stretch. Many feel if Chelanga runs with smarter race tactics, he would certainly come home with the title. History, however, has shown us that he loves to open a gap early and push. Derrick was patient at Pre-Nats and when he saw Chelanga coming back to him, made a strong move. When he passed by, Chelanga had nothing left to respond with. I do not know if Derrick has shown us an all out effort yet this season. If Chelanga, the NCAA 10,000m record holder, tries to run away from the field early, he may experience some deja vu in the final half mile. Stanford also has a great supporting cast behind Derrick. From Pre-Nats on, Elliot Heath has only lost to Derrick, Chelanga, and Brandon Bethke of ASU. Bethke is a 13:27 5k runner who certainly has top-10 potential. This mean with Heath, Stanford looks to put 2 in the top-10. The Cardinal also have Jake Riley and Justin Marpole-Bird who are having breakout seasons. Oregon’s Luke Puskedra is a top returner and looked great winning his race at Pre-Nationals, but has looked flat since. Do not count him out, however. He is a talented runner who performs well at Terre Haute. Any of Oklahoma State’s scorers look like they could be in the mix up front. John Kosgei was 8th last year, Ryan Vail has been in the top 21 the past 2 years, Colby Lowe is having an outstanding season, and NCAA 1,500m Champ German Fernandez’s fitness is improving rapidly after a slow start. NAU’s David McNeill was 10th in 2007 and 15th in 2008 and is coming off a win in the Mountain region where he topped the solid trio of Miles Batty (BYU), Jacob Kirwa (New Mexico), and Jordan Kyle (Colorado). When McNeill struggled at Pre-Nats, NAU was buoyed by strong races from Jordan Chipangama and Diego Estrada. Estrada did not run at regionals, however, and Chipangama was off his game. Another top returner is Georgetown’s Andrew Bumbalough who has been battling much of the post season with Villanova’s new edition Mathew Mildenhall. They are both very strong contenders, but were taken down by Louisville’s Cory Thorne at Big East. Barnabas Kirui of Ole Miss did not compete last fall, but he won the NCAA steeplechase title as a freshman and is always a threat. He was beaten at regionals by the very good Felix Kibioywo of Auburn. Iona’s Ryan Sheridan won the NE Region and was the 6th fastest at Pre-Nats. He jokingly commented that his goal for this race is to beat Andy Baker, who has beaten him in close races in the past. Butler’s Baker is twice an All-American in XC and was the 5th fastest at Pre-Nats, although his regional performance was not his best. Minnesota’s Hassan Mead is a regional champion and has been at top form all season. Dorian Ulrey of Arkansas is also a regional champ. A World Team Member at 1,500m, he is a dark horse in this 10,000m race. Also very good this fall and should be looking for a top spot are Ben Cheruiyot of Auburn, Tyson David of Alabama, Jeff See of Ohio State, Wesley Rutton of Eastern Kentucky, Lee Carey and David McCarthy of Providence, Ryan Hill of NC State, Kenyon Neuman of Colorado, Jeff Schirmer of Southern Illinois, Landon Peacock of Wisconsin, Alfred Kipchumba of Portland, Dan Chenoweth of Harvard, Scott Smith of UC Santa Barbara, John Beattie of Tulsa, and Jon Grey of William & Mary. Justin Kopunek http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Justin Kopunek/9387-2009-ncaa-cross-country-championships-preview Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:00:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Nick Arciniaga/9363-ing-nyc-marathon-in-my-mind November 1st, 2009 – New York City 10:56am – All I can hear is my steady breathing and Pat Tarpy’s footsteps. Its quiet up here, almost eerie. *beep* I hit the split on my watch at the 15 mile mark; 5:11, slow, but not bad considering we’re heading up the Queensboro Bridge. I can feel a strong crosswind pushing us from right to left. I’m not looking forward to this inevitable headwind heading up 1st Ave. into the Bronx. Doubt starts to creep in. My legs start to feel sluggish. I need to regroup. I look up ahead I can see Pete Gilmore just cresting the top of the bridge. –New Goal– Catch Gilmore as soon as possible. 11:06am – Now I can hardly hear myself think. People are everywhere. Gilmore and Tarpy are right with me. The crowds on each side of 1st Ave. are at least 3 people deep as far as I can see. Up ahead I can see little dots of red, orange, and blue. Those have to be the leaders. What place am I in right now? How many more am I going to be able to catch? *beep* 17 mile split, 5:00, going to have to pick it up if I want to get away from these guys. Maybe its too windy, I’ll just tuck in behind Tarpy and Gilmore for a minute, let them take a little bit of the wind. 11:16am – I’m all alone now, I can’t hear or feel anyone near me anymore it about time to start grinding it out to the finish. *beep* 5:06 for the 19th mile. I smile at myself. Just like in practice every time I take a fluid bottle I accelerate and pull away from Brian. Now I did the same thing, pulled away from those guys and passing Bolota at the same time. Bolota didn’t look too good. He started walking right at the fluid station. I’m glad I didn’t collide with him or anything. Time to get going. 11:36am – Pain. Excruciating pain. Why does this 23rd mile have so much uphill? Each block seems like forever. Focus on orange. Focus on Lehmkuhle’s Jersey. Bring him back to you. *beep* Mile 23, 5:04, still the toughest 3 miles to run. Just get into the park and you will be home free. I can hear Kevin. What is he saying? It sounds like German, I’ll try to decipher it later. It was something about 10 and 11. Is that what place I’m in? Or is that what the guys I can see about a minute ahead of me are? Almost to the top. Focus, Focus, Focus. 11:58am – Here it is! Finally, The Finish! I just passed Abdi, and I feel kinda bad snaking him with only a 1/4 mile to go. Was that Torres that just finished? I forgot that he was still up there. Doesn’t matter now, look at the clock! 2:13:40….41…42…43! Whoo! Finally I’m going to get out of the 2:16s! 2:13:46. And I’m done! Stumble a little ways past the finish line. A cloud has come over me and I am in a dream. Mary Wittenburg comes over to congratulate me. I see Jorge and Ryan with flag draped around them. I don’t get a flag….does that mean I’m 4th? Sam Grotewald says something to me and I throw my hands up! Whooo! What did he say? Something about a pr. That’s right. Now I hear that Meb won! All this information is just blowing my mind. I’m Ecstatic! We should do that again! Nick Arciniaga http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Nick Arciniaga/9363-ing-nyc-marathon-in-my-mind Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:11:00 -0500 http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Sage Canaday/9353-places-to-train-near-rochester-hills-mi-stoney-creek-metropark In his work Walden Henry David Thoreau writes about his experience living in natural seclusion: “…I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived….” He goes on to emphasize the importance of maintaining simplicity in life, and how individuals have become caught up in details and distractions from technology and the rest of society. In this day and age running has become an outlet for one to practice some of Thoreau’s philosophy by finding harmony within nature and for embracing the beauty of simplicity. Fortunately for me and the rest of the Hansons-Brooks team, the Rochester Hills area has a plethora of running trails that snake through scenic wooded forests, creeks, and lakes. Nearly every run we take can meander onto forest trails or dirt roads. In this blog I am going to write about just one of those venues: the trail system at Stoney Creek Metro Park. Stoney Creek Metropark is a part of the Huron-Clinton Metropark regional park system which is present in five counties throughout the state of Michigan. Funding for this 13 park system began in 1942 with local property taxes and park admission fees derived from activities such as golf, boat launching, and bike rentals to name a few. Nestled in Shelby Township, MI, Stoney Creek has 4461 acres of recreational moraine land including wooded areas, open fields and a man-made lake. In terms of providing an area to train, Stoney Creek is ideal in that it has a paved, slightly rolling 6 mile loop going around the lake. Starting near the boat launch area, this path is marked every quarter mile, and provides an excellent venue for tempo run workouts, progression runs, and any workout where distance and pace must be monitored closely. Dirt trails branching off the paved sections of the park wind throughout the varied landscape providing many interesting routes full of wildlife. When running through these trails one can often find many white-tailed deer, wild turkeys and other various creatures. In fact, there is a nature center near the back end of the park that is a good educational resource. Here, wooded trails (some with bridges to cross swampy areas) provide access to areas for bird watching. Finally, on another side of the park is the shelten estate trail system which includes over 14 miles of paths ideal for running, hiking, and mountain biking on. This area of land used to belong to Allan and Elizabeth Warren Shelten (1894-1982) who had an estate built on the 850 acres of land that they owned there. The Shelten family eventually donated their land to the metro park. Evidence of the estate (taken down in 1981) can still be seen in the remaining house foundations, an old tennis court area, and stone stairwells. The surrounding area contains many wooded areas with mountain biking trails and rolling hills. The trail system at Stoney Creek Metro Park provides thousands of acres to explore, run, and bike. It is a relatively large park that offers one the opportunity to experience several naturalistic settings, and enjoy the beauty from their surroundings. These types of areas are essential for populations to have as they offer not only recreational activities, but they also serve as destinations for relaxation and escape from the complexities in life. The restorative qualities of nature, as hinted by Thoreau and later proven through scientific studies, can improve your sense of well-being and overall health. So next time you find yourself stressed out and caught-up with obligations from work, be sure to schedule some time for yourself to run and relax (or meditate) in a scenic, natural environment. You’ll find that this opportunity to unwind is well worthwhile in the other long run known as “life.” ? ? sources to check out for additional info: ? http://www.metroparks.com/parks/pk_stony_creek.php http://shelden-estate.blogspot.com/ model runner in photos: Nick Arciniaga Sage Canaday http://www.flotrack.org/blogs/blogger/Sage Canaday/9353-places-to-train-near-rochester-hills-mi-stoney-creek-metropark Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:00 -0500