Mark Flotrack » The Best State Meet in the US, Texas or California??

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up and down the track spectrum its cali. we're from texas (from greenville area)residing in cali and from 40m to 100 to 4x400 to 800 to 3200 to 10,000 its cali. we do it all here in cali

Let's face it. Texas' bread and butter in high school sports is FOOTBALL!!! Track and field is just something to do in the off-season. Every great back is also a great sprinter. They grow on trees in Texas.

Population and weather and everything else are just excuses. Lets get down to actual facts.
Texas always drops amazing times in the 100m dash. The only problem is that they run 10.1 or 10.08 or whatever but those times never seem to hold up. I remember Edorian McCullough ran 10.1 some years back but it wasn't counted as a legal time so the record continued to stand at 10.15 (Record recently broken by Jeff Demps from Florida). So the 100m dash times by Texas athletes aren't good evidence at all. Don't get me wrong they are still fast but not as fast as these spectacular times would suggest. In fact, I ran against Edorian McCullough in a 60m dash when he played football at City College of San Francisco. He amazed me by how fast he was so I'm not discounting speed here.
But track is more than a 100m dash and so is California. California often has the national leaders in almost every event. In fact in 2007 state championship meet, I believe 5 national records were broken (Girls Pole Vault, Boys 300h, Girls Triple jump, Girls 100mh and Girls 1600m). That same year, Bryshon Nellum was the fastest junior 200m and 400m sprinter in the world. Even though splits do not count, it is also a note that he ran the fastest 400m split ever recorded by a high school athlete (44.6). Long Beach Poly also dominated at the Penn Relays against Jamaican runners who were 18 and 19 yrs old while the Poly runners were 16, 17, 18. California athletes continue to set national records with Reggie Wyatt breaking the 300mh record again this past weekend. In the field events and the distance events California are also among the leaders.
Texas is up there as well. They also lead the nation in many events. The only difference is that California has athletes setting National Records regularly.
I give the nod to California. There is just too much evidence there and the state is too well rounded in track and field.
If you wanna check the 2007 California state meet go to http://www.cifstate.org.
Go check dyestat.com for the videos and results from the 2009 state meet which was just as great.

New Jersey trumps both

THANK YOU! I am the winner of the 100 hurdles in Class 5A, and i almost couldn't run because of a change of school. [I transferred to my HOME SCHOOL] Texas does have more strict rules that Cali, ESPECIALLY on the amount of races your allowed to run! && let me remind everyone that Texas is KNOWN for its horrible weather, if we had the opportunity to have California's weather, we would MURDER your times!

We've had to postpone our State meet because of the Swine flu.. making our season a month LONGER than anyone else, most-likely. So our runners are exhausted, but STILL have the ability to hang in there with yu all.
Based on the results of this year, Tx beat Ca times in the:
Girls 4x1 - TX: 45.38 ; CA: 45.88
Boys 110h - TX: 13.58 ; CA: 13.76
Girls 100m dash - TX: 11.50 ; CA: 11.54
Boys 100m dash- TX: 10.08 ; CA 10.38
Girls 4x4 - TX: 3:42.75 ; CA: 3:42.91
Boys 4x4 - TX: 3:13.55 ; CA: 3.14.53
The other races are pretty close, but remember of what texas has gone through this track season.
Let UIL or whoever runs California's state track meet get together && run a combined track meet, either in TX OR CA.. TX will dominate.

. And last but not least, WE DON'T HAVE PRELIMS AT THE STATE MEET IN TEXAS!!!!! We leave top performers home every year because we take the top two in each region (4) and run a finals at the State Meet. We have 3rd place finishers in Regionals that could place 3rd at the State Meet. WE ONCE LEFT A 3:10 4x400 METER RELAY AT HOME BECAUSE THEY PLACED 3RD AT REGIONALS!!!!! Texas is the only state that does it this way. When California has the occasional edge on Texas at times, remember that Texas is not operating on the same level playing field with California. Taking all that into consideration, how can you doubt Texas?

Cut the excuses. Cali had a better meet and that's all there is to it. The idiots in Texas who think California is 75 degrees and sunny year around need to clear up their facts. The conditions at the meet happened to be great but that's not at all indicative of the weather for the whole state on a regular basis. You Texans spend a month of the summer in Riverside or other areas of the inland empire and you'll be singing a different tune.

Yes, most adults in California do have better things to do with their Friday nights than attend high school football games, but football still saps funding from every other sport further west too. It's given supremacy nationwide and your case is no different.

Again, Texas is the only state in the country that doesn’t run prelims at the state meet. They take the top two finishers in each event out of each region and run a final at the state meet. And get this; they draw lanes for the finals. How ridiculous. This eliminates 3rd place finishers on down at regional’s that could have got points at the state meet. This is how one person can win state and how state can be won with 40 points or less. It’s so hard to get everything to state. That's what makes Lancaster girls track team winning 8 in a row in 4A so outstanding. State championships are harder to come by in Texas. We have been fighting this bullcrap for years. There is a proposal under review for the first time for a new state qualifying system. So everyone from Texas that wants the best at the state meet in Texas, call UIL and voice you opinion. Those good old boys in Texas (UIL) only care about football.

consider this, the total population of california is 36 million! the total population for texas is 24 million there is NO reason it should even be close so to even put the two into the same equation boast big for texas. plus you want to compare distance events? your comparing apples to oranges, cali runs all its runners in one race, texas splits up the talent and the BIGGEST factor is california weather, NO HUMIDITY, and hardly anything over 90 let alone 98F!

I think its ludacris to compare the 2. just too many different variables.

I think it would be a good track meet for the two states. You'd have the best competitors in the whole country for sure.

Ok, for all yall cali people, you werent there. Yall didnt have a guy brake the 100 record now did yall? and you didnt have a guy tie the LJ record, and yall didnt have a 18'1" polevaulter. and yall didnt have a girl win the 1a division by herself(she'd have won in cali to). But how many of those people do you see running professionally? Exactly! Majority of professional track and field athletes(well, the good ones) are went to a texas high school. oh, and for the 100, LJ, TJ, 200, and 110s, the wind was allowable.

well actually northern california has a problem with weather just about every year not so much southern california and most of the fastest times comes out of southern california and every once in a while from northern california

Cali Track Man, kids attending schools outside their area does affect the relays. That's putting together an all-star team on the relays. It's common sense. I can't believe you can't see that. We can't do that in Texas. Desoto, Duncanville, and Lancaster are all 15 mins from Dallas Carter and Kimble. If those kids were transferring to two those schools every year, their relays would have the best times in the nation every year. And that's not even counting the rest of the Dallas metro-plex.

Dual meet scoring on the guy's side yields 82 California 64 Texas, and that's with Texas having wind aided marks in the 100, 200, 110, TJ and LJ. Take out those 5 and it's 69-32.