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Ethan Myers
4 months ago
Deny the request. If possible, get the rest of your team to do the same. There's no way they'd cut an entire team because of this. If they did, there would be so much outrage from alumni, media, fans, potential recruits, etc. that they'd have to bring you back. |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
Patriot Acts..... |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
Patriot Acts..... |
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Ryan From Flotrack
4 months ago
this seems a little excessive and maybe digging too hard into people's personal lives. i think student-athletes should be cautious of some of the things they put online as they represent a university at a higher level than someone who is simply a student. with that being said, it seems like an organization that monitors your every move is like hiring a private investigator. a bit much for 18-22 year olds in college. if athletic departments feel like coaches are that far off from grasping whats going on in their athletes' lives then thats a whole different issue that needs to be addressed internally but i think this is going a little too far |
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we have a similar structure
4 months ago
easiest way to beat it? Delete your facbook |
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Tom Baker
4 months ago
Ryan's words are wisely chosen I think. It seems to me that Universities are paternalistic, authoritarian and self-serving in the way they treat student athletes. It's difficult for mature folks to know what their rights are in this day and age. It must be even more challenging for young people, particularly those who as athletes are in some sense in the public eye. This seems particularly paternalistic given the recent track record of another university in Pennsylvania, which proved unwilling to protect young people from it's own staff. |
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varsi-mon
4 months ago
According to the Varsity Monitor website, they monitor all athletics at Nebraska, Villinova and UNC as well as Texas Football. Those are all prime-time schools. It won't be long before this crime of a website takes over. |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
at Texas A&M about a year ago, maybe two years ago the athletic department tried to make all the athletes with Facebook allow the app Udiligence to monitor any athletes facebook. I know a few people didnt allow the app access and never got in trouble or kicked off the team. |
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Sean Norton
4 months ago
This is clearly a case where some leadership by *brave* coaches and athletes needs to be shown. Universities will claim they are protecting young people and their rights, but in fact they are abusing their power. Who will have the courage to make a stink about this and risk their jobs, in the case of coaches, or their scholarships and eligibility, in the case of athletes? |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
good thing i deleted my facebook |
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Yufi
4 months ago
(Aside from deleting facebook and rebelling, here's another possible path.) Just make another facebook account and put up a generic pic as profile and use that. Since your 'real' one is so well privacy'd, it will appear like that's your only one, you just don't do much on it is all. |
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Mark From Flotrack
4 months ago
How does a monitoring service build young men and women into productive citizens? Colleges are there to educate and build good human beings. By using this service Villanova is basically saying they are not confident in the student athletes they bring into their school and coaches/teachers ability to teach them to be upstanding citizens. You dont create good habits, by being big brother. They should give people responsibilities and hold them accountable for their actions good or bad. I would not send my kid to a school that needs a big brother like monitoring program period. |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
can the university force this upon their athletes |
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Steve Jenkins
4 months ago
The people who think the University has a right to do this because the student athletes are "privileged" need to understand that all contracts carry both privileges, rights and responsibilities for both parties. In this case, the University is demanding far too much of the student and way over-stepping the rights of the institution to safeguard it's interests. A student could just as well require that the University administrators sign a contract refusing to ever make a statement about the student without prior written approval. The company offering this product is praying on loopholes in the law what would never hold up in court, and relying on the fact that few students will have the courage or resources to challenge this. |
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times...o' they are a changin'
4 months ago
if student-athletes wouldn't post photos of parties, half naked bodies and "red solo cups" on their facebook pages and were thinking of their future employment/public image then this wouldn't be the case. I don't agree with this, but it has only gotten to this because of the immaturity of a large majority. Sad that it has come to this, regardless. |
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Chinese
4 months ago
Whats wrong with an institution following you. Here in China the government follows every move we make and things are just dandy. |
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Anonymous Coward
4 months ago
"One nation, under Facebook..." |
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Matt Holden
4 months ago
I'm shocked that it appears that the majority of people at the University of Texas support this philosophy. |
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Anonymous
4 months ago
Student athletes (and students in general) should be educated on the appropriate measures they should take to protect themselves and make educated decisions about what to/not to post online. Career services and other groups from around campus should work with the athletic department to create a program that stresses the impact that their actions can have on their time while in school and their future when they graduate. It is imperative that students think twice before posting something deemed as inappropriate by the media or future employers. Unfortunately, because social media is such a hot thing, most students do need some kind of an education in what they publish on social and digital channels. When I was a student athlete only 5 years ago, we had to go through several hours of education on the subject of social media (at the time, the conversation was limited to Facebook) and it's impact on our lives as student athletes. I found it to be very informative and it taught me many tools that were helpful to know with regards to privacy even though I was already quite social-media savvy. I am almost certain that they did not continue the program after one year, perhaps because those educating students do not know much about the ins and outs to social media as it is ever evolving. With regards to the snooping by friending this Varsity Monitor, it seems extremely intrusive. I would rather see athletic departments educating their students rather than watching their every move. Student athletes have to go through yearly meetings and sign so many doents when they begin school each year, they might as well add this as part of their education/compliance process. |
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Sean Norton
4 months ago
The sad truth is that we live in a time when universities would rather not accept the responsibility of guiding their members. They would rather hire an outside police force to do their work for them, not knowing if that force will act responsibly or in the best-interest of their clients. It doesn't speak well of Villanova that they would rather trust an "VarsityMoniter" than their own staff or their students. They should be TEACHING and GUIDING their students toward responsible behavior. Instead they are abdicating their responsibility and entrusting their students' information to third part whose sole interest is making money. |
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Sean Norton
4 months ago
The sad truth is that we live in a time when universities would rather not accept the responsibility of guiding their members. They would rather hire an outside police force to do their work for them, not knowing if that force will act responsibly or in the best-interest of their clients. It doesn't speak well of Villanova that they would rather trust an "VarsityMoniter" than their own staff or their students. They should be TEACHING and GUIDING their students toward responsible behavior. Instead they are abdicating their responsibility and entrusting their students' information to third part whose sole interest is making money. |
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Ellen J.
4 months ago
While I don't agree that the administration or coaches have any right to monitor your Facebook- it's important to remember that whatever you put online can easily be seen by anyone. All it takes is someone taking a screen shot and passing information around. |
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Yeah
4 months ago
I agree with Mark completely |
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Chris Schroll
4 months ago
This is outrageous. Universities have no right to monitor students personal lives this much. If they don't want their athletes to reflect poorly on their institution, how about they just assign us a 24/7 watchdog so they can monitor our off-campus/offline remarks too? Wait, maybe I shouldn't say that because they just might start doing it... |
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Matt Holden
4 months ago
Can you friend this company, but then create special lists that this company isn't on. You then proceed to only share most information with the friends on the special list you created. Alternatively you can might be able to share posts and what not to something like "friends; except restricted list". Have your restricted list include varsity monitor plus anyone else you would like to add. |
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BSU
4 months ago
Same thing is happening here at Boise State University. I think this goes way too far and the coaches do not have the right to demand this of their athletes. |
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Since when did Villanova becom
4 months ago
I am an athlete at Villanova and believe that this is totally inappropriate. I choose to make my social networking accounts completely private and completely invisible to any public viewer. Villanova should not be able to mandate me to "friend" an anonymous 3rd party company so that strangers can monitor things I choose to share with selected individuals who I know and trust. This includes very personal things including pictures of my friends and family, links to other friends personal accounts, personal information, and thoughts and conversations I share with a limited community of people. If Villanova Athletics or my coach would like some kind of personal access to my social networking activity (if they really feel the need to be invested that deeply in my personal life) that is somewhat more reasonable. But for an outside company to do "manual historical analysis" and "real-time monitoring" of my private social network activity to make inferences concerning the "intent" and "meaning" of any personal content I choose to share is absolutely outrageous and screams big brother. Once people provide this company with access into their private lives, their information could be sold, used for marketing purposes, or construed in any way from which the company may benefit. This is wrong and Villanova has stepped out of its realm of control on this one. |
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Seriously?
4 months ago
Yea this is probably one of the stupidest things ive heard in a looonngg time. It should be the responsibility of the student not to post stupid pics on their fb. And if you really really just need to post that pic of yourself bonging 3 beers at a time, then you should be very familiar with how to limit who sees what. And lets be honest, this isnt going to change a thing in the long run. Kids will figure out ways around it, loopholes, etc, etc. We are talking about college kids here. They will always party, there is no way around that, its part of the college experience. The people behind this garbage are probably the same ones who spent their saturday nights in college playing dungeons and dragons and drinking caprisun. C'mon, get real.. |
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Anonymous
4 months ago
This rule seems a bit overkill, but honestly, if something is private and shouldn't be seen, then it probably shouldn't be on facebook anyway... yes it is somewhat an invasion of privacy, but if a student athlete is posting inappropriate things on facebook they deserve to get caught. |
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Julio Zuniga
4 months ago
I am a D2 athlete on my schools SAAC committee, and we recently had to vote for a similar rule, my school voted no, but apparently 95% of the rest of the schools voted yes. Apparently my school is the only one that read the new D2 legislatures carefully. |

Ryan From Flotrack 4 months ago
We were informed certain universities' compliance offices are requiring student-athletes to friend a company called "Varsity Monitor" on their facebook profile so they can see my information and pictures and give the company full access to all their information. Some student-athletes are refusing to accept this but are worried that could be kicked off the team if they do not comply. Has anyone else heard about this or have more information?
If you look through the facebook terms of service it seems very hairy if a company would be able to do this and comply with the rules of facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms?ref=pf
Let us know if you have any info or experience with Varsity Monitor or sites that partake in similar monitoring techniques. We have also been informed of other monitoring companies but don't know how they operate. Here's a few names - playerguest.com, Scoutware , Jump Forward, ACS , ARMS, and udiligence.