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Uploaded by Flo Track | October 7, 2007

York High School in Elmhurst, IL has been a power house in XC since legendary coach, Joe Newton took over in 1960. Since 1960 Newton and his York Dukes have won an amazing 26 state titles. York also won the national title in 2004 at Nike Team Nationals. Newton believes the 2007 team has a shot at state but they are not as stacked as in years past. Coach Newton has his boys doing 5 x 1 miles on this Monday (Oct 1st) afternoon. THe music is by Tiesto (Sorry Kieth). There is a movie about Coach Newton and the York Dynasty in production, hoping to be released soon called "The Long Green Line".

Speakers: Joe Newton

Categories: Workout, High School, pa wrestling college, Team

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205 comments

Doc 1 year ago

where are sulkin and achtien now?

not starting for their college teams, burnt out!
it took mcnamara about 2 years to recover from york.

Sulkin is on Minnesota's top 12

Achtien, along with many York runner's, went to U of Illinois and is one of their top 5 runners.
People fail to see though the level of success York has in D3. Brian Pollistrini, one of York's huge success stories, just provo'd in the 10k as a Soph. And he was Yorks #6/7 runner. Mark Sulkin, Steve's brother and one of the top 10 his SR year, was running 1:52's as a soph. There are many more people just like them, but people only look at the guys who went DI and couldnt hack it.
Pride is the number one thing that dooms York runners. They would rather risk burning out in DI than be a forgotten success in D3

Anonymous Coward 1 year ago

of course achtien got injured at the end of this season (before NTN) and hasn't been the same since...

rizzo pretty much broke his leg AT the state meet and DLF'd, if i recall

sulkin hasn't improved since high school (though he was quite good during, and consistent)

spisiak isn't even running as far as i know...

red? i think he no longer even runs for the club team at his college

Anonymous Coward 1 year ago

7:57 "A quarter mile til glory"

loyola hs 1 year ago

There is no way in hell that people call this a normal workout. This is just crazy

jimrunjim 1 year ago

i would have relished this workout in HS , plus the opportunity to be pushed by some other good runners - reality is that the volume is probably too much for a hs athlete - take a look at % of max that they are running - while definitely posted good results - i would think you want to race in races not workouts

1 year ago

It's not entirely fair to judge Newton's training techniques on what his athletes do after they leave his tutelage...there are so many variables. If you are running 90miles a week in high school and then go to a college program where they run 60/wk...well, you might not improve much. There's also something that has to be said for the psychological difference between running for a legendary coach, a part of the most storied program in high school cross country history, and competeing for NATIONAL titles...and then graduating and going to run for some mid-level college where you are really hoping to get 6th in your conference.
Both of those are definitely realities for graduates of York and legitimate reasons why they might not be collegiate all-americans, and neither of those are Newton's fault.

1 year ago

PS Bellflower HS cross country team in 1954 was only scored upon twice.

K. Scholten 1 year ago

Bellflower HS did well in 1953 at the Compton Invitational. 4man 2 mile relay set national record of 7:56.9 Ron Way, George Saunders, Larry Wray, and Ty Hadley.
You may recognize Hadley and Wray from Occidental College 1956.

PS Bellflower HS cross country team in 1954 was only scored upon twice.

K. Scholten 1 year ago

Bellflower HS did well in 1953 at the Compton Invitational. 4man 2 mile relay set national record of 7:56.9 Ron Way, George Saunders, Larry Wray, and Ty Hadley.
You may recognize Hadley and Wray from Occidental College 1956.

2 years ago

Too bad Nequa Valley won that year.....sorry York.

johnlvs2run 2 years ago

THE START OF THAT MADE ME JUMP - TURN IT DOWN.

Walnut 2 years ago

yeah, BTurn, but the kinda of speedwork they (and we) do/did is not truly very effecient training. its the eggs against the wall technique. high school ESPECIALLY ought to be more about building volume and working on aerobic threshold. the types of workouts done in some of these programs are very outdated and are classic overtraining. You don't have to dip that deep into the well on workouts...in fact, you shouldn't, with how much high school kids race.

I think the fact that they've won 26 state titles speaks for itself.

Quantized 2 years ago

notice on the start of mile 3 "red" has his shirt off and then it cuts to him having it on right after...hmmmmm

The rest was prob edited out so you see them run only
"red" coulda taken his shirt off during the rest
not rlly suspicious

Jose Resendez 2 years ago

DAMN YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joshua Lange 2 years ago

wish i had him as coach. but then i would rather be good in college then burn out after high school

Anthony Nuccio 2 years ago

My God, I love Newton. I wish I could have stayed in Illinois to run under him.

Stephen D 2 years ago

For most top USA HS XC runners they should run 70-80 miles max. I looked in Joe Newton's book and the first 2 weeks they do close to 115 miles a week and then run 85ish for most of the season then droping to 40-45 miles a week. Look at the Dettman twins, they are doing nothing at UO. Don'g forget Joe Newton is much like Mark Wetmore, Tom Heath, Eddie Matters, Mike Gavlin all strong belivers in Lydiard. The good coaches are guys like Frank Horwill, Jack Daniels and Brad Hudson. Not to take away from what Joe Newton is doing.

Lydiard is a great coach, he has great ideas that work. They just have to be adapted to high school runners.

dave 2 years ago

where are sulkin and achtien now?

not starting for their college teams, burnt out!
it took mcnamara about 2 years to recover from york.

Brad DeMarco 2 years ago

The Song is 2 million ways (axwell remix) by c-mos

Kevin Sparks 2 years ago

to be fair to newton, he is their high school coach; he trains this team to be high school state champions. you can decide whether or not it's a coach's job to prepare kids for running in college and beyond, but he is training those kids here and now to be the absolute best they can

notimportant 2 years ago

tooo skinny

Declan McDonnell 2 years ago

This video is good, but it needs more mark talbot.

Runnerdude 2 years ago

The guy is referring to them going on to college and actually doing something. If you work to hard in high school, be it mileage or something else chances are your body will burn out. Meaning you wont perform to the level that you should based off your high school times. I know of 4 cases from the same school where the kids were state champions running 4:09 miles, 9:00 2 miles, and 14:50 CC 5k runners that go to college and don't get any better. Why? they were running 80-100 mile weeks continuously in HS, and there bodies work load had know where to go.

you really don't have much of an argument unless you can find a large number of athletes who have actually gone slower in college. You say these guys are running 14:50s in high school on 80-100 miles a week and then having nowhere to go in college. Maybe that is because not even most colleges run consistantly over 100 miles a week. If they were doing like 60 miles a week in high school they may have only ran 15:20 5ks in high school, then when they got to college, they would run 14:50s.

2 years ago

what is the name of this song!??!!?

JJ Cahill 3 years ago

For most top USA HS XC runners they should run 70-80 miles max. I looked in Joe Newton's book and the first 2 weeks they do close to 115 miles a week and then run 85ish for most of the season then droping to 40-45 miles a week. Look at the Dettman twins, they are doing nothing at UO. Don'g forget Joe Newton is much like Mark Wetmore, Tom Heath, Eddie Matters, Mike Gavlin all strong belivers in Lydiard. The good coaches are guys like Frank Horwill, Jack Daniels and Brad Hudson. Not to take away from what Joe Newton is doing.

JBr 3 years ago

yeah, BTurn, but the kinda of speedwork they (and we) do/did is not truly very effecient training. its the eggs against the wall technique. high school ESPECIALLY ought to be more about building volume and working on aerobic threshold. the types of workouts done in some of these programs are very outdated and are classic overtraining. You don't have to dip that deep into the well on workouts...in fact, you shouldn't, with how much high school kids race.

3 years ago

Please. What is the song please?

BTurn 3 years ago

JJ, what do you consider a hard workout for high school guys? I was in York's conference in high school, and they are not the only team that does 12x800s or 24x400s. I realize I wasn't averaging the same times as Tom and Steve in the video above for my 15 miles on a trail run or 6 miles on the track, but to be a top high school program, especailly in Illinois, you have to be running more than 3 miles a day.

JJ Cahill 3 years ago

I you look at Joe Newton's training book they do 115 miles a week in the first two weeks then go down to 80-85 miles a week. An ex: of one day is a 3 mile warm up/ 10x100m strides/12x800m/1x300m full out/3 mile cool down/10-24x100m strides. They do 15 mile long runs and touch on speed ever day. Another work out is 24x400m!