Thanks to all of those who understand me and did not judge me on what i did,I am really a good person who is coming the understand this new enviroment that i am in, what i did was just to have fun not to show bad sportsmanship.
DJ.... Your grammer lesson regarding the correct spelling of "loser" was pretty ironic considering you apparently don't realize that its' isn't a word. I believe you meant "its" idiot.
Sorry guys, but I really think all of this could have been discussed more honorably. This IS embarrassing to the NAIA. I just finished my NAIA career this year and really had an amazing time, to say the least. I've run against many very capable runners, some who definitely could have competed at NCAA. The NAIA is and has been a great division for many quality athletes on and off the track, yet there have been exceptions as in any case. Either way, I do not think that such bickering, especially on Flotrack's website accomplishes anything beneficial. I realize a lot of this started with Andre as the main topic, and I ran against Andre several times this year and beat him and lost to him both. I do think Andre still has some track etiquette to learn, however, he did represent himself well at NAIA Outdoor when he beat me in the 4x800 the last 50 meters or so and I was pleased that he finished the way he did. Even though some of his actions may have been questionable earlier in the season that does not leave reason to attack him as a person, let alone attack the school he attends. Being a rival of OBU, I have run against many talented athletes and have always enjoyed their competition. They know how to produce 800 runners and in my four years in the NAIA they have had successful middle distance runners every year, and that is a testament to their program. I hope for the future that as NAIA athletes, coaches, and spectators we can discuss honorably and not resort to such actions especially on Flotrack's website who has graciously recorded the NAIA Indoor meet the last two years. I hope they continue to do so and maybe even expand to Outdoor as well. Take care guys and lets represent the NAIA the way we should.
P.S. I was fighting an achilles injury the month prior to outdoor, which interfered with my training and then also fought illness the week/weekend before NAIA Outdoor. Had this not been the case, I would not have even been in the 4x8 but in the open 800. Either way, Andre raced competitively and gave OBU a win they deserved.
Whatever dude...I know being an NAIA All-American is nothing to brag about. I was simply defending myself from your elementary school level comments.
Understand this...quit talking trash if you..yes you, the uneducated, good for nothing, low life, cannot even back it up. Go home cry a little and then try to collect yourself, get a job, and come to the reality that somethings in life were just not meant to be.
Now that NAIA is over with, I will stop writing on this post, because between your writing and Thomas' I officially have lost nearly 5 years of education. Lastly, because of people like Thomas...and now yourself, the NAIA has a terrible reputation for the character of its' athletes. There is a reason the NCAA coaches frequently refer to the NAIA as the National Association of Ineligible Athletes.
And one last comment, please for the love of God spell loser right!
your a looser DJ your even running out of insults for the kid because you know yourself that what i said earlier is true. he has proved you wrong in everything you have thrown at him move on with you life and stop allowing flo track take over your life looser.for your information this is naia anyone can get all-american even the semi talent athletes looser don't let it get to your heard Mr guy who said he is running 51sc in repeat 400m and finish is college track with a personal best of 1:51, looser.lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW...learn how to write a complete sentence! I am an All-American x2 while splitting 1:51, so I don't need to prove anything to you. The funny thing about your comment is that my wife can probably beat you. LOL!
Have fun sucking at everything that you do...especially life!
if i can recall i would say andre had the capability to run atleast 1:47 base on how he ran his rounds and how he anchore his 4x800m relay team to victory spliting 1:49.5sc well relax, he didnt even kick and he slowed down after realising he had win. if you look back on the male 800m finals, i would say andre was confronted with a number of challenges, which explain his reason for finishing second, not that he would have won, but you never know what would have happen if he had not been box and push when he made his attemp to run to the front. i have not defending him because i have spoken to him a few times and have gotten to know him, i am just saying that before you come on flo track and post these comments, you should take a few things into consideration. in one of your comments you said you and your wife bought a 350,000 house and in another one you said your wife is able to become on all american again in one of the long distance race, it just shows me that your a looser, infact here is what you said,"My wife and I just purchased a 350,000 dollar house in Colorado. this is when you said you wife can becpme an all-american,"My wife has been a 5 time All-American still has a chance to do it again in the steeple this season. not only you are looser but your fake. i was in the stands and everyone was please with his performance, they even said that if he had not bee box(block my his fellow competitor, which is apart of distance running) he would have won. get your ass of flo track looser
Oh, I saw that! The fact that Josh screamed is just a testament to his competitive drive. If you have ever spoke with Josh then you would know that he is the most respectful person in the world. There are no excuses for anybody's performance, but supposedly he had been fighting illness all week. On the other hand that doesn't mean that he would win that kick at the end. The reason I lashed at Thomas is because he was immediately talking trash about how he is going to run a 1:46 at nats...ummm yeah, the last time I checked the only person that came even close to that was Silas in the 4 x 800 (1:47).
I admit Thomas was very calm, collected, and somewhat respectful. I just think it is sad when the entire NAIA can't stand an athlete so much that they spend most of the day talking about what a punk he is. This includes coaches, athletes, and even spectators (myself). It is extremely sad that a coach has to make a contract for an athlete that is getting a free education to not act like an idiot while in competition. I don't give a crap where he is from, he is in the US now and we don't do that (at least in track)...he ruined his reputation! Either way I respect OBU, OC, and every track and field athlete in the country whether they are NAIA or NCAA, I just don't respect him.
whats the point in talking trash about any of this Andre has a horrrible attitude but he is a beast so he can get away with alot of his antics and what he did at Drake was wrong but OC and OBU are rivals and he learned from his mistake, but to make a long story short he is a good runner who will mature when the time comes, and Silas Kisorio is the fastest 800m runner in NAIA just to throw that out there lol but so what Andre out kicked Josh, Josh has had a Great 4 years at OC so please stoptalking crap abot the runners and give them credit when credit is due if not shut up and cry to yourselves ya digg
Hey DJ you forgot the part where he out kicked Josh Wayland in the 4x800 and then walked calmly off the track without celebrating. From the reaction of his teammates they looked happier than he did. You have to give Andre that, oh and we wont mention what Wayland screamed when Andre passed him and his legs would not allow him to stick with him.
You failed to prove me wrong Thomas...not only did you get powned by Silas in the 800 WHEN YOU WHERE FRESH, but he had some nasty blisters from his 3:45 1500 WITH ONE SHOE! You straight up got demoralized! LOL!
Thanks Aaron...I do know Aaron we talk on fb all the time...anyways ill be in brasil to run this weekend and ill be in New York for the Reebok classic yall need to look me up...need the support...Oh yeah I could of went D1 just letting yall know...
Wow will you two stop argueing on here! No ones ever heard of either of you!
And guy last time I heard the fastest girl on obu's squad was Mosely. She ran a 52.8 last year. If this Aaron kid has ran the times he says he has then it really doesn't look like YOU know what you're talking about. Both of y'all grow up! Lmao
key word, "was". I want no part of any 4x4 your on.
...and it would be much of a race, come back when you can run faster than the girls on your team.
but don't worry, you are making a good name for obu with all your internet postings.
Right, ok we'll see if you even come here (I'm not buying that you're even in hs) and if you were thinking aabout coming here you wouldn't be trying to start trouble. What's wrong with me defending him even if I wasn't there? The point is that he shouldntve done it but he did. And that hopefully he is done showboating and ready to actually race. If you don't mind I'd like to just drop this whole back and forth. If you wanna discus it further you can talk to me on fb or something I'm not trying to keep this going on here.
Wrong again (you're on a roll)
I only called you out because you keep posting to defend obu when you really haven't been involved in any of the situations that are being discussed. I can appreciate you sticking up for a teammate but you are defending for him on something that you were over a hundred miles away when it happened. The you defend mike rodgers when you were not even at obu when he was and i know for a fact that he isn't around obu now.
oh, "you need to grow up and get a life rather then talking smack to a kid over the internet!" the irony here is you are probably older than me since i am still in high school. I was interested in going to obu next year. and to keep the internet smack talk going, you better hope i sign with someone else because i will make that 4x4 long before you do! haha
Wow ok so you know how to look up results. Congrats. That was last week. I've and well under 53 this season in open and splits! So stop acting like you know who you're talking to! I'll admit I haven't run at my expectations (hs I ran 50-51 consistently) but I am having a hard year adjusting. I was strictly talking about I know how he feels about not getting enough money to cover his college expenses. I never once said I was as good of a runner as him I don't even know him. I agree right now I'm not on the level of our best guys, but I'm doing everything I can to get there. So that's cool rag all you want but when I'm on the 4x4 I don't wanna hear you talking. This connversation is not even about me but for some reason you feel you need to go at me. You needto grow up and get a life rather then talking smack to a kid over the Internet!
i don't wanna join this conversation i just wanna be the 100th comment. which is understandable considering how popular and exciting this race is. (sarcasm)
you are proving my point, you act like you went to school with him and like you know him. Trust me, he wasn't d1 eligible!
also, i like how you compare you scholarship to DJ's schools. After he talks about maxing out at 3k dollars and finishing 3rd a nationals you point out that you are on a 3k dollar scholarship and you couldn't even break 53 in the 400m.
But just keep talking like your a part of teh obu tradition and like your in the same class as those who competed at drake.
You act as if mike wasn't smart. Let me remind you obu is a private school
And the classes here are very tough. He was obviously smart enough to stay eligible here so I don't see why he coudnt go to some state school and do alright. My point isn't that he could have gone to a d1 school the point is that he came and ran at obu when he could have gone somewhere else. We are glad anytime we can get one of these special athletes. You can keep argueing but I'm done.
And dj no problem. I'm sure he will straighten up soon. He knows that we can't afford to get dq'd in anything at outdoor nationals if were wanting to be top three like indoor.
Aaron, just stop talking about things you don't know about! Do you honestly think mike rodgers would have stayed in the naia if he could have gone d1. NO, and that is not a knock on the naia. But rodgers wasn't d1 eligible!!!! He couldn't have gone D1 no matter what. he didn't have a choice.
First of all. That's great what you and you're team has been able to do with the limited funds. I'm right there with ya I'm only getting 3000 to run and at a school that costs about 23000 a year it doesn't seem like much. But I came here to run with the best and hopefully be an all American. We have over 50 athletes on the team and we have to spread out that money to reward our people for their hard work. We can't give full rides to our guys. I don't know is if Andre is going to move on to d1 or not but we actually do have people that stay here (mike rodgers) instead of going d1. I wouldn't really worry about Andre doing this again though I'm sure our coach has got onto him as well as the rest of our relay. I know each one of those guys wanted to beat him after the race. Hopefully he has learned his lesson and no one will be saying anything about his bad character after nationals. Andre has come a long way since he got here but everyone outside of obu only sees when he messes up.
I just want to clear the air. I have nothing against you Aaron, or your team. I am just baffled at what conspired at Drake. I saw some things happen at nationals and that also disappointed me, and this is not just what happened during the race. I couldn't believe how poor of a loser the Sienna Heights guy was. Please understand that I have nothing aginst you, OBU, or even Andre Thomas as a person. He just keeps giving me reasons to question his character. I just am tired of seeing random dudes come in, run for schools who have NCAA D1 connections, leave a bad name for that school, and then leave the school. I know for a fact that OBU gets people eligible and then they move on. I know this because my college coach gets called or emailed every day regarding foreigners to come run and then transfer to a D1. The problem is that we only have 3000 DOLLAR scholarships. In fact in 2007 my team and I got 3RD PLACE AT THE OUTDOOR NATIONALS with a 7:34 (OBU ran scrubs in the prelims and missed finals) then followed with a 5TH PLACE FINISH INDOOR in 2008, and after talking with other teams, they were baffled that we received less than a full ride! We were not even on the same level as OBU, but we tried our best to run with them...and many times we did! My wife has been a 5 time All-American still has a chance to do it again in the steeple this season. What I am trying to say is that we did it the right way...with people that have character and heart. We have passion for the sport...AND WOULD NEVER ACT LIKE A JERK before, during, and after a race. We just had average runners that gave a crap and cared about eachother rather than ourselves.
FYI - My bad on OCU I forget sometimes that it's OC for Oklahoma Christian and OCU for Oklahoma City University.
Yes I go to OBU, and I'm on the team. I wasn't at Drake because only our relays went, I ran at Ou that weekend. But everyone that has described the race to me has said exactly what I'm saying on here. So if I'm wrong in any way I apologize, just bad information I guess. Which is suprising seeing as the people on the relay told me what they saw.
Ocu? I'm sorry I didn't know we were talking about Oklahoma city university.. And like I said it did show poor character for him to slow down and run with him. I didn't mean it in any derogatory way that he belonged in the dust I meant that if Andre ran the way that he can then the guy would have been beaten by much more then he ended up Getting beat by. Again I have friends that run for OC so I didn't mean it in a way to make their runners look bad. And also don't think that any of us at obu approve of the way Andre raced. It was by far the best our relay hard perfermed so far and we were not only close to the top time in The nation but also barely off a school record. Our guys were more mad then anyone in the stands about it I Promise you. And that's cool dj call me a nobody I don't care if you know me I'm just sticking up for my teammates.
We already have enough thugs in college sports...we do not to to add to the total in TRACK! Come on man, have some class! I would have been more impressed if he had simply passed him and then beat him really bad. Instead he represented himself and his school in the worst possible way. It was obvious how UNIMPRESSED the crowd was when this happened. Like I said...and keep saying, he has no class, terrible character, and is just another punk getting a free ride. I hope their coach reevaluates and weighs the consequences of having a great runner that has poor sportsmanship and having quality runners with great attitudes (like the rest of the team). I would have never typed a word about this guy after Nats if I knew he was just "competitive." He is just a punk who cares only about himself. He'll probably be running in a different uniform next year anyway...if any NCAA's are dumb enough to take him.
FYI - Where he belonged? Come on...OCU has excellent runners who are excellent PEOPLE! They have proven themselves in the last couple of years and the last thing that they deserve is some NOBODY telling them where they belong.
Instead of passing the guy and leaving him in the dust where he belonged he jogged with him and kept looking over at him. Then he ran the last 30 meters or so. They wouldn't dq someone for having pride in you're school. It was just because he was messing with him. I can't say Andre is totally wrong for this tho they are our rivals. Instead of just talking trash he decided to do it on the track.
What did Andre do besides hold his jersey up at the end of the race. Getting cut off, bumping elbows, and shoulders, and pushing people out into the outside lanes is all part of racing. Its part of the sport. Look at what Ulrey did at the NCAA indoor meet DMR, pushed Coe? out a little to guarentee his team 2nd. I still think Ulrey is a great runner, and didn't cheat. Look at cross, its a rough has hell sport. You get cut off, people pile up, I've even stepped on someones head before to get through a pile. Now if I missed something let me know.
Ok what Andre did was wrong I'll admit it there's no room for poor sportsmanship in track. But he did win the race. The entire relay doesn't deserve to be booed and dq'd for his mistake. And I meant what other jamaicans have had a bad stay at obu. There are other teams that give their international students way more then their allowed to so when we can get a Jamaican the right way then it's great! We still believe in Andre and hopefully he will redeem himself at nationals. Now we know that our 4x8 is one of the best in the nation. and he also has the 2nd fastest time in the 800 right now. So no ones done hearing from him.
Sorry about the language...I just can't believe what I saw at Drake. Not only did he embarrass his school and his name, he embarrassed the sport. I knew when I watched him at NAIA Nats that he had terrible character. Once again, sorry about the language.
and Aaron Partridge i just noticed your "what other jamaicans have we had in the past"
....YOUR AN IDIOT! have you ever looked at your school records, you have had plenty of jamaicans on your team!
Are you kidding me Thomas??? You y SOB!!! Way to go...you selfish, no good, good for nothing, punk! We all saw what you did at Drake and the whole stadium booed you. You finally got what was coming to you. I told you that you were nothing but a no good punk. You officially gave OBU a bad name, and that sucks for them!
Spread the word track fans...I was right from the start, I don't talk crap unless I am for sure about something. Thomas is good for nothing, and now OBU has to claim him.
Thanks for clearing up Thomas' situation. I have always thought that there are many NAIA runners that can compete at the NCAA level...there is just a lot more depth at the NCAA level. Obviously there are better runners, but whose to say that NAIA runners don't work as hard? Thanks for clearing up all the crap and looking at the race and the people in the race with a much broader perspective.
You really cant say that NAIA cannot compete with NCAA runners, we actually run most of our meets with them and we do pretty well. Just because their best runners are better than ours doesn't mean we dont compete.. and also it looks like Saafield (spelling?) didnt ever try to catch Andre after he passed him. Andre is probably the fastest in that race (speedwise) so I believe he could have passed him without the bumping that was going on.
Also dont say that nick is slow, he just started running last year and has done great things in a short amount of time. Show me any other school that has 2 freshman running as good as they are and I'll show you someone who isn't slow. Also besides Sherene, what other jamaicans have we had in the past? You cant base your judgement over one person. Also if you've ever seen the races in jamaica you'd know over there its all about entertainment and show boating. Yeah Andre did that the first couple of races.. but our coach has gotten onto him and Andre is starting to race for real. Give him some slack.
Nice...attack me that way. My wife and I just purchased a 350,000 dollar house in Colorado. I hate to brag...but you leave me no choice. Screw off...I made my last post a long time ago in which I feel like I cleared the air and wished Thomas a good outdoor season. I have no problems with that guy and as I said a LONG TIME AGO, I wish him the best and I WILL MAN UP WHEN HE PROVES ME WRONG! Why don't you do the same.
By the way Darmody...I am talking about 54 second pace. The results I found had him clocked in 53.9.
This is a perfect opportunity for the people on this board to realize that we are getting laughed at by some haters ragging on the NAIA. I am 180 degrees from a couple of weeks ago. There have been some haters talking about how the athletes aren't even good and that if we were good we would be in the NCAA. You guys (Thomas, Pawlaczyk, and even thsi Darmody dude)? need to step up and work together to prove these a holes wrong. I'm three years out of competing so I just want to see the NAIA prove themselves to the haters. In fact I hope Thomas and Pawlaczyk run 1-2 at outdoor and go 1:47 or better. Doesn't matter who wins...just shut the a holes who have no respect for the sport or the athletes because they are "GODS" from the NCAA. Maybe it is are bad for wanting to continue competing after high school and actually have our coaches remember our names. THIS IS MY LAST POST.
I'm SORRY everyone. Andre deserves it. we need to stop this. I love this sport to much to be fighting about a race. I'm stupid, I am a fag (literally), this is gonna be my last post on here. SORRY everyone, like for real, OBU is Legit and I will quit Hatin' on them. They have a great program over there, and i just wished I had the chance to run there but i'm not good enough. I am a ROCK Andre, I dont even have a job, I still live with my mother, and the way we live I cant even tell yall cause my mom really dont need me to put her out like that...(Damn corners). Goodbye Flotrack.
DJ said: “By the way Breath, you are talking a little too much considering that I do repeats at your quarter pace. Please, if you are going to talk...make sure that you can back it up! You had nothing to do with your teams success and I'm quite sure after looking at your times from this year that you didn't even get to go to Johnson City as an alternate. Yes, I'm sure by now you are "Kicking Rocks". LOL”
I am amazed! you do repeat quarters in 50.5 that is impressive for someone who runs 1:51.
Mark: "oo I gotta big head in my way" ahahaa very funny.
Ok, seriously I've read some of the comments below and all I have to say is that Flotrack should teach these idiots (those arguing about nonsense) a lesson and stop covering their meets. Seriously, read what you're all posting. Acting like a bunch of children, I agree with everything Dan Knewitz said. The guy won, the NAIA didn't find anything wrong with the race, now move on and SHUT UP! If you got something to prove, beat the guy later, it's that simple. Sitting there and crying like little babies isn't going to do squat.
Stop responding to comments about you loser. If what was being said was false, you wouldn't need to defend yourself. Unfortunately, everything said is true and you are a big loser. Everyone knows it. You are a nobody in the world of track and field so SHUT UP!!!!!
"Experienced Coach"!? lol calm down. First of all I stated earlier that I shouldn't have won the race, Saalfeld should have but the kid pushed him off the track then cut him off coming to the final stretch. Secondly, you don't know what was said, he pushed my buddy off the track and I told him he's a punk and needs to run like a man and not a little boy. Because, if I'm not mistaken pushing people off the track is still illegal, "Experienced coach", lol. And finally, no one is denying that the kid is talented cause he is; it would just be nice to run a "race". So why don't you go back to your middle school team that I'm sure you coach oh so well, and live your prestigious life, lol.
Pawlaczyk this is for you. I am a experienced track coach with no ties to any NAIA school. I was at the NAIA indoor national meet and I saw the 800 meters final. I thought that the way you acted was shameful - you should be embarrassed. You looked like a sore loser and that is because you are a sore loser. You are a decent runner, but have nowhere near as much potential as Andre Thomas. Andre is a great runner, and you need to accept that and move on. Be content with second place, because you are second place at best as long as Thomas is around.
naw naw thomas don't fret over them non athletic boys who track careers are like clouds without rain ... You now that you are a intelligent man and God knows....I;m pretty sure they could never accomplished what you already had done ... their no body my dude...prediction... obu 4x8 outdoor national champions with nick the great who just started to run track last year...Anonymous Coward your a punk with this web talking...face to face you would be scared as a little rat.. sucka.....Keep God first
I would just like to say that in track the "fastest athlete" does not always win the race and never will. And many races are not clean, there is always going to be some pushing, cutting off, or maybe even spiking. So everyone just prepare for it, grow a pair, and good luck in outdoors. If you feel that you deserved your win or should have been the winner then go out and prove it at Outdoor Nationals and until then quit complaining about the past.
OBU you lost in the 4x800, it's okay if you want to win train for it and prove it this season and Pawlaczyk you lost in the open 800, whether you feel Andre cheated or not there is no disqualification so the race was clean enough for the judges to let is slide. It's part of track and even life, not everything happens the way you want it, so you to can train and prove that you should be champion or let Saalfeld have it.
you guys need to stop hating.Outdoors will prove who is better.Just know that i am coming with fire in my eye.Not to brag, but i am going to give you guys a 1:47 and show you how Jamaican run when there piss off.Michael Saalfeld was pushing me into lane 3 with his shoulder also, that why i push him.His that bad are protecting me self and securing a victory for OBU?
You LOST. Get over it. And by the way nick blackwell did not run the anchor of the 4x800, he ran leadoff and handed off with a lead. Pawlaczyk, you are a no body. SHUT UP.
Luke-It's Don. Take it from me, posting on message boards will only make people think less of you no matter who is right or wrong. I've banned myself from posting on letsrundotcom over stuff like this, just use what happened and what you saw happen as motivation to kick ass outdoors. When APU knocked the baton out of my hand at 96 Indoor NAIA Nationals in the 4x8 it took everything I had to NOT punch the sh*t out of him, but you have to rise above all the BS and be a man and have class and ignore the idiocy.
Man, I'm so glad we did'nt have this internet thingy when I ran in college a billion years ago....
Do you guys think all of this is appropriate? Do you really think Flotrack is going to come back and cover anything from the NAIA if you all act like children? I ran at this meet last year, and I am extremely pleased, not to mentioned surprised, that they came back to cover the indoor championships this year. The fact of the matter is that no on has room to talk. Step on the track in NCAA D1 and win a few races and then maybe people will listen to you. Don't get me wrong, I was in the NAIA and I have respect for it, but if you were the best you wouldn't be in it.
naw bro sounds like ur trhe one with no class if ur constantly cryin bout how he won why dont you just go back to your school and train hard like he does and if u race him again let that determine it quit bein a poor sport by thrown his name around on the internet
I have run against him I'm sure he works hard but the plain simple fact is that he runs weak; he has no respect for the race and track so therefore he is a poor sport and a chump. and I just wish I could run track with respectable people. but that's not the case with foreigners with no class.
andre is a good runner who works hard everday and you all can be some sore losers all u want but when any of u can compete with andre then u should talk
That's got to be a joke. lmao. You are too slow to be talking. do you not remember you having a huge lead and getting destroyed then coming in last in the open watch it again it is kinda funny. calm down with your crazy talk. second is where obu belongs in the 4x8 and that is where you will stay if you are even luck enough to get that.
I'd like to end with a shout out to Saalfeld the only one that ran this race with any class it is too bad he is the one that got screwed by a punk cheat.
Your little punk from Jamaica has no class and cheats he knows it and you all know it so stop backing him and how are you going to act like he has any intelligence his word speak for themselves and OBU does think that they are the . Your boy is a punk athlete; talented maybe, but Michael Saalfeld would have won if he hadn’t blatantly pushed him off the track. I was right there and he pushed him and then cut him off cause he runs like a punk and that's the only way he knows how to run. It is called track etiquette and sportsmanship the fastest athlete should win not the person the pushes and runs with bad sportsmanship.
I'm done here I wish it could have been run proper and that i got second to a decent person but that's not how it turned out. oh well
I will guarantee that he does not repeat out door.
Hey this is to all OBU. how does it feel to be first loser in the 4x800 for how many seasons? It must feel pretty bad. lol guess what it was all you fault blackwell they gave it to you with a mad lead but you are too sorry to keep it. you need to now keep quiet I dont want to see you come back and try to argue you are nothing and need to be quiet.
I didn't want to comment because I did not win and it seems to me like it would come off as sore losing. The story goes like this I was nowhere near him he had to move out in order to elbow me and then he stayed in lane two because he is a cheat. I'm not sad at my second place even though I was 4 events deep going into the finals of the 800. Get off me blackwell with your slow self just cause you're angry that I caught your gap in the 4x8 to destroy you lol you are sorry and need to be quiet and go to your hole for another day, because track isn't your thing. Michael Saalfeld should have won that race if that sorry excuse for an athlete from Jamaica didn't intentionally push him off the track then cut him off like a punk later in the race saalfeld would have won. unlike you way in the back of the race acting like you were there I was right there. I saw both his excuses for running. andre you have no class and you know you cheat you are nothing but a chump and I pray you run the open at drake and I’ll show you what an athlete does when he is fresh. Give you a taste of your own poor sportsmanship.
Blackwell...you finished last in the race. You have every right to defend your teammate, but like I said, you finished last. You have a lot to learn freshman.
God, I love it when people talk and don't know what they are talking about. Andre didn't do anything wrong in this race. The only thing he did was win. Yes DJ, he has acted very y at some of the OU meets. If you knew him, you would understand that this is just his personality.
DJ you need to just shut the hell up. Seriously. What point are you trying to prove anyways? Andre is from Jamaica. The grammar there different from ours. He's been here for 3 months and has had to radically change his grammar usage.
I was IN this race. Andre didn't run dirty at all, and he didn't run dirty in the 4x8 also. By the way Jake, Andre didn't elbow anyone because no one was around him when he handed off the stick the 2 mile relay.
There was nothing wrong with the way Andre ran, and he didn't celebrate or taunt anyone when he was finished. However, Luke did get in his face right after the race calling Andre a "" and "you need to run like a man". You know what Luke, shut the hell up and get over yourself. Andre didn't interfere with you at all during the race. I know because I was IN THE RACE.
Congrats Andre. I'll see you in a week.
Thomas, you are not classy at all. First you elbow Siena Heights when you hand off in the 4X800 because you're jealous you were gonna lose. Secondly Luke Pawlaczyk would probably take you in the 800 anytime, he should have beat you there, shoot concorda nebraska should have beat you if you didnt push him off the track, thats what you call cheating. OBU runners are usually of no class and soar losers.
I agree. My posts were not meant to demoralize your school or athletes. If you have a goal...go for it. I'll probably be eating my words in a couple of months. Prove me wrong and I'll be the first to man up and admit that I was wrong. I guess that is a challenge to you to do the same in the vice versa situation. I'll leave you alone, until then...good luck.
I was recruited by several programs and OBU is a fine outstanding university. Ford Mastin and Zach Johnson are good men who take care of their athletes, and make sure that they are sucessfull on and off the track. Mastin would never let anything suspicious go on with his athletes, he is an outstanding guy, and someone you WANT coaching your kid. He does not build ego, he builds character, and i think his record at OBU proves that he is one of the best coaches around. Before you go hammering a program, meet the people 1st. When OBU hits the track, they are there to compete. Just like everybody else. OBU also has very strong academics. Believe me, going in we know we have to make the grade, and they have kicked athletes off in the past, very talented ones for not doing so. Andre Thomas ran an incredible race, and as a freshman. Love it or hate it he ran his guts out, trained hard, and won the race. THATS THE GREAT THING ABOUT TRACK, NO GRAY AREAS! on this day in time, andre thomas was the better runner. accept it.
Honestly, I hope the best for you. You deserve to get a degree and to do well in track. If you are pursuing a dream...more power to you! Like I said before; you are fast, probably a pretty good guy, and you have a goal. Good for you, just try to be more humble with your victories and attitude.
With flying colors. These qualifications are similar to those of many United States institutions, but they are just named different. I skipped 8th grade, scored a 32 on my ACT (similar to the entrance exam in the Caribbean) and had 18 hours of college course work BEFORE entering college. I think I would be fine.
Right now I am heading up a GLA (Global Learning Academy) at the school IN WHICH I TEACH AT, that is currently partnering with schools in the Caribbean in order to teach one another about their customs and cultures regarding education. Since my M.ed qualifies me to educate at the post-secondary level (college), I am able to head this program. We have found that the educational system is quite similar to one another when entering secondary, post-secondary, graduate, and post-graduate studies. Interestingly, most of the students that come from the University of the West Indies end up completing their education in the United States. Why do they want to come here if their education will be worse? Seems to me like you need to do your research. If there is anything else you need to know...let me know.
Do your research. know what let me give you the ranks:Asia,Europe,and the Caribbean, America is below all of us. In fact Barbados and Cuba is the number one and two literacy country in the world. Where are they? in the Caribbean.To prove my point, go on University of the west indies website and look on the qualification to be accepted and tell me if you would have been accepted.Mr. big L
Ok...let's chalk this up as being passionate about our sport. You won, good job, but please try to carry yourself a little better. That's all that I ask. I have nothing against you, your school, or your country. I'll walk away...good luck with outdoor and I hope that you do well. Sorry that I offended you.
FYI - The only errors that I have made I have recognized and corrected.
LEARN HOW TO WRITE! For God sake, you are ILLITERATE! If you are going to use this word, SPELL IT RIGHT! You are just making my point that much more valid. Are you kidding me? LOL! You make this fun for me...it's so easy!
Chill out dude...coaches come to your country to get athletes because you produce faster track athletes...ABSOLUTLEY NOT FOR EMPLOYEES! Once again, are you kidding me? You are right about the being faster in Jamaica, but you could not be more wrong about education.
The next question is when are you going to transfer? That seems to be the trend at OBU.
OK, you want to compare education level? give me the word. Im positive you have made some erro in your sentences.Dont bull me, America SPEAKS broken english,bad broken english.English originate form England which settle in Jamaica for many year before we were given independent.You guys dont even know how to spell good.Sorry if i offended you guys, but this DJ person is giving athletic and his country a bad name.For give me
DJ, you talk too much for a no body. Shut the hell up and stop hating my country.Education in a America is way below my country,thats why employer and coaches here come to the caribbean for athleats and emplyee.The only reason i cam e here, is becouse of the resources, if not i would not have been here. Im positively sure that if were in the caribean you would have been a college drop out, ROCK HEAD(eliterate). for your information, every athleat that have past through OBU is living a seccessful life in cluding me, in both academic and track, just that im here as a fresh man. Do your reasearch big head and no BRAIN, maybe you will see my 1:49 PB i ran in high school.Get off, no one like you
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By the way Breath, you are talking a little too much considering that I do repeats at your quarter pace. Please, if you are going to talk...make sure that you can back it up! You had nothing to do with your teams success and I'm quite sure after looking at your times from this year that you didn't even get to go to Johnson City as an alternate. Yes, I'm sure by now you are "Kicking Rocks". LOL
I would never judge someone based on where they were born or where they are from! I simply said that OBU seems to come up with Jamaicans every year and then they either transfer or go back. This has nothing to do with their education level. When a complete sentence cannot be written, kind of like your sentences, then we can start getting into current education levels.
I hope that Thomas gets a lot faster, because otherwise he will starve when he cannot afford groceries. Professional track athletes (besides the elites) do not make enough money as it is. I simply am saying that Thomas is "slow", if you even want to call it that, COMPARED to the NCAA's, DII, and even some DIII athletes. Obviously, he is considerably slower than the professionals are. Even you are smart enough to figure that out. He is NOT slow, he is a BA, but he walks, talks, and acts like an ass. This will get you nowhere in life.
FYI - About half of the field appealed against Thomas, but the judge on that turn said he indeed saw the trip up but was unable to see who was responsible because of the angle in which he was viewing. Had he been on in front of the pack...BYE BYE Thomas.
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE BIGGEST POST OF HATERS I HAVE EVER SEEN! WHATT YALL NEED TO DO IS WIN A RACE AND GET OFF HIS JOCK! IF YOU BEAT HIM YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOMAS BEING Y! HE CUT SOMEONE OFF? I COULD HAVE SWORE THIS WAS TRACK AND THE OBJECT WAS TO FINISH FASTER THAN YOUR COMPETITION! AND WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE HE IS FROM JAMAICA HE IS DUMB? HE WILL BE RICHER THAN ALL YOU PEOPLE WITH GRAD DEGREES, SEE HOW FAR CUTTIN OFF GETS YOU! THATS NOT BAD SPORTSMANSHIP, THATS A DESIRE TO WIN AFTER THE WORK YOU PUT IN! IF HE CUT SOMEONE OFF, HOW COME HE WASNT DISQUALIFIED? AND GUYS WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NCAA NATIONALS HE RAN AT THE NAIA NATIONALS, HE WON, GET OVER IT. KICK ROCKS HATERS!
I also agree with you about us being so fortunate to have many choices to run at post-secondary institutions. Heck, I don't even belong in Division II.
You're right. I am sorry for what I said. It was more of a impulse comment and I do not actually feel this way. Once again I am sorry, and for the record I agree completely and I think that we are fortunate to have so many options to continue our athletic endeavors after college. I will make sure to be consider all parties involved when trying to make a point to one person.
DJ says:
"but the reality is that you run in the NAIA, your trash."
Just like to say that just because some athletes chose to run at a college level whose auto marks are not as fast, does not mean they are trash. I think that all collegiate athletes deserve respect no matter the competition level. Yes, D1 athletes are margins faster than those in NAIA, but I run D2 and I am slower than many in NAIA. It all depends on what school you feel at home at and the environment which serves you so that you are able to succeed.
That is my point...if you understood what I am saying than you would realize that you are the one that is stupid. I ONLY ran 1:51, which means that I understand that I am slow, therefore I understand not to act like an idiot on the track! Jeeze man, I am done with this...I was merely making a point that the winner of the 800m at the NAIA national track meet was acting like a jerk and that he shouldn't because there are a lot of people running that fast. Let's not get so damn defensive.
your so stupid; your unable to read between the lines. if you had attended school in jamaica you would have been taken out for being so stupid. im talking last year indoors rock head(duns).1:51 is what i ran a thte age of 16
I hope that I have nothing on my resume to get burned about. I never talked or acted like a jerk when I was running in college. My pr was merely 1:51 point, but I never acted like I was better. I know that I was one of thousands. I respected my oppenents and track peers. I just hate when people carry themselves like they are the best in the world.
By the way...NCAA's haven't run yet you idiot. The auto time is 1:48! I beleive you were TWO + SECONDS OFF OF THAT TIME. That is like taking a 30 seconds of of your 5k. Nice try, but you have yet again made yourself and your school look like a complete idiot. I could go on and on, so everytime you attempt to say something I will put you right back in your place. Keep trying.
Here is a simple edit of your writing. Take a lesson:
You're a rock. I bet your teachers let you pass all your exams because you paid them. If you're smart, guess what I am trying to say. Yes my time would have been competitive at the NCAA's you "ROCK". YOUR SMALL MINDED.
Nice...you are truly what we in the education field call, "lower level". You would probably be placed in a special education program. Are you kidding?
I'm three years OUT of college. Graduated with a 3.8 and currently hold a M.ed. I'm guessing you probably have no clue what that means. It's a graduate degree! Like I said, I'll remember you when you NEED me to hire you. You are a real tool. Huh, sleep tight thinking about how you'll never graduate from college and then how you will be serving me my dinner. I'm done...you think about it. TOOL!
your a rock.i bet your teachers let you pass all your exam because you paid them.if your smart, guess what i am trying to say.yes, my time would have been competitive at NCAA you "ROCK".YOUR SMALL MINDED
Nice grammar. Just a testament to the education level that your currently hold. I'll keep that in mind when you work for me some day. You might be the most classless person I have ever seen in my entire life. You're a little boy that is afraid to race against men. Why don't you go back to your room, watch the NCAA's, and then cry yourself to sleep when you realize that you are merely coughing in the dust of the REAL men that race the 800. YOU ARE A CHEATER AND YOU KNOW IT. Someday you will run your mouth to the wrong person and they will not only make you beg for mercy on the track, but they will remind you who is boss in life. Like I said, I'll keep your name in mind when you try to get a job from me. Note to self: Andre Thomas is a tool. He thinks he is good. He can't write ONE SINGLE sentence. Oh yeah, HE IS A CHEATER! Have a nice sleep tonight when you realize what a sleezy person you are. Congratulations on your win, but the reality is that you run in the NAIA, your trash.
"STOP FIGHTING THE VICTORY", haters. haters always have the biggest mouth and fail when it come to the test. be humble a humble hater.one day we will race.
By the way...I never once acted like I was a BA when running in college. I would just like to see some humility. 1:50 point is pretty good, BUT not good enough to act like Thomas does during competition. Look at Rono, maybe he is a coward for running in the NAIA, BUT he still competes with class. Maybe your boy Andre should take some notes. Like I said, chill out.
Whatever dude...I'm sure your are pretty good person when people know your name. I just call it as I see it. I have been a part of relay teams that smoked OBU and they still walk around as if they are the best track program in the country. I've seen that dude (Thomas) check his shoulder, untuck his jersey, and put a number 1 into the air when running 2:00! Are you kidding me? What a joke. I would not describe what goes down at OBU as coaching, especially when every semester they come up with some Jamaican that will probably not go to class and then leave at the end of the season.
There is no reason to get defensive, chill out and realize that there are many tools in the NAIA, not just at OBU...maybe they need to get smoked a time or two in order to realize their place in track and field.
Nice "win" OBU...you know you cut down to the corner in front of the entire field WITHOUT a step on turn 4 (I was sitting in line with the turn)! Oh, did I mention that you pushed Heights all the way to lane 4 in order to not get kicked down (I moved to the finish line by this time)! You're a tool Thomas, we saw how you acted at one of the OCU Indoor Invites. I'm sure your coaches are proud. By the way, I have no connection to any of the teams in the race...I am just a fan of GOOD CLEAN track and field.
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P.S. I was fighting an achilles injury the month prior to outdoor, which interfered with my training and then also fought illness the week/weekend before NAIA Outdoor. Had this not been the case, I would not have even been in the 4x8 but in the open 800. Either way, Andre raced competitively and gave OBU a win they deserved.
Understand this...quit talking trash if you..yes you, the uneducated, good for nothing, low life, cannot even back it up. Go home cry a little and then try to collect yourself, get a job, and come to the reality that somethings in life were just not meant to be.
Now that NAIA is over with, I will stop writing on this post, because between your writing and Thomas' I officially have lost nearly 5 years of education. Lastly, because of people like Thomas...and now yourself, the NAIA has a terrible reputation for the character of its' athletes. There is a reason the NCAA coaches frequently refer to the NAIA as the National Association of Ineligible Athletes.
And one last comment, please for the love of God spell loser right!
Have fun sucking at everything that you do...especially life!
I admit Thomas was very calm, collected, and somewhat respectful. I just think it is sad when the entire NAIA can't stand an athlete so much that they spend most of the day talking about what a punk he is. This includes coaches, athletes, and even spectators (myself). It is extremely sad that a coach has to make a contract for an athlete that is getting a free education to not act like an idiot while in competition. I don't give a crap where he is from, he is in the US now and we don't do that (at least in track)...he ruined his reputation! Either way I respect OBU, OC, and every track and field athlete in the country whether they are NAIA or NCAA, I just don't respect him.
And guy last time I heard the fastest girl on obu's squad was Mosely. She ran a 52.8 last year. If this Aaron kid has ran the times he says he has then it really doesn't look like YOU know what you're talking about. Both of y'all grow up! Lmao
...and it would be much of a race, come back when you can run faster than the girls on your team.
but don't worry, you are making a good name for obu with all your internet postings.
not here.
I only called you out because you keep posting to defend obu when you really haven't been involved in any of the situations that are being discussed. I can appreciate you sticking up for a teammate but you are defending for him on something that you were over a hundred miles away when it happened. The you defend mike rodgers when you were not even at obu when he was and i know for a fact that he isn't around obu now.
oh, "you need to grow up and get a life rather then talking smack to a kid over the internet!" the irony here is you are probably older than me since i am still in high school. I was interested in going to obu next year. and to keep the internet smack talk going, you better hope i sign with someone else because i will make that 4x4 long before you do! haha
also, i like how you compare you scholarship to DJ's schools. After he talks about maxing out at 3k dollars and finishing 3rd a nationals you point out that you are on a 3k dollar scholarship and you couldn't even break 53 in the 400m.
But just keep talking like your a part of teh obu tradition and like your in the same class as those who competed at drake.
And the classes here are very tough. He was obviously smart enough to stay eligible here so I don't see why he coudnt go to some state school and do alright. My point isn't that he could have gone to a d1 school the point is that he came and ran at obu when he could have gone somewhere else. We are glad anytime we can get one of these special athletes. You can keep argueing but I'm done.
And dj no problem. I'm sure he will straighten up soon. He knows that we can't afford to get dq'd in anything at outdoor nationals if were wanting to be top three like indoor.
FYI - Mike Rogers transferred around from school to school. He was at Lindenwood for 2 years.
FYI - My bad on OCU I forget sometimes that it's OC for Oklahoma Christian and OCU for Oklahoma City University.
FYI - Where he belonged? Come on...OCU has excellent runners who are excellent PEOPLE! They have proven themselves in the last couple of years and the last thing that they deserve is some NOBODY telling them where they belong.
and Aaron Partridge i just noticed your "what other jamaicans have we had in the past"
....YOUR AN IDIOT! have you ever looked at your school records, you have had plenty of jamaicans on your team!
Spread the word track fans...I was right from the start, I don't talk crap unless I am for sure about something. Thomas is good for nothing, and now OBU has to claim him.
Also dont say that nick is slow, he just started running last year and has done great things in a short amount of time. Show me any other school that has 2 freshman running as good as they are and I'll show you someone who isn't slow. Also besides Sherene, what other jamaicans have we had in the past? You cant base your judgement over one person. Also if you've ever seen the races in jamaica you'd know over there its all about entertainment and show boating. Yeah Andre did that the first couple of races.. but our coach has gotten onto him and Andre is starting to race for real. Give him some slack.
By the way Darmody...I am talking about 54 second pace. The results I found had him clocked in 53.9.
This is a perfect opportunity for the people on this board to realize that we are getting laughed at by some haters ragging on the NAIA. I am 180 degrees from a couple of weeks ago. There have been some haters talking about how the athletes aren't even good and that if we were good we would be in the NCAA. You guys (Thomas, Pawlaczyk, and even thsi Darmody dude)? need to step up and work together to prove these a holes wrong. I'm three years out of competing so I just want to see the NAIA prove themselves to the haters. In fact I hope Thomas and Pawlaczyk run 1-2 at outdoor and go 1:47 or better. Doesn't matter who wins...just shut the a holes who have no respect for the sport or the athletes because they are "GODS" from the NCAA. Maybe it is are bad for wanting to continue competing after high school and actually have our coaches remember our names. THIS IS MY LAST POST.
“By the way Breath, you are talking a little too much considering that I do repeats at your quarter pace. Please, if you are going to talk...make sure that you can back it up! You had nothing to do with your teams success and I'm quite sure after looking at your times from this year that you didn't even get to go to Johnson City as an alternate. Yes, I'm sure by now you are "Kicking Rocks". LOL”
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Ok, seriously I've read some of the comments below and all I have to say is that Flotrack should teach these idiots (those arguing about nonsense) a lesson and stop covering their meets. Seriously, read what you're all posting. Acting like a bunch of children, I agree with everything Dan Knewitz said. The guy won, the NAIA didn't find anything wrong with the race, now move on and SHUT UP! If you got something to prove, beat the guy later, it's that simple. Sitting there and crying like little babies isn't going to do squat.
OBU you lost in the 4x800, it's okay if you want to win train for it and prove it this season and Pawlaczyk you lost in the open 800, whether you feel Andre cheated or not there is no disqualification so the race was clean enough for the judges to let is slide. It's part of track and even life, not everything happens the way you want it, so you to can train and prove that you should be champion or let Saalfeld have it.
Man, I'm so glad we did'nt have this internet thingy when I ran in college a billion years ago....
I'd like to end with a shout out to Saalfeld the only one that ran this race with any class it is too bad he is the one that got screwed by a punk cheat.
I'm done here I wish it could have been run proper and that i got second to a decent person but that's not how it turned out. oh well
I will guarantee that he does not repeat out door.
Don't want to the spell checker to get me.
I was IN this race. Andre didn't run dirty at all, and he didn't run dirty in the 4x8 also. By the way Jake, Andre didn't elbow anyone because no one was around him when he handed off the stick the 2 mile relay.
There was nothing wrong with the way Andre ran, and he didn't celebrate or taunt anyone when he was finished. However, Luke did get in his face right after the race calling Andre a "" and "you need to run like a man". You know what Luke, shut the hell up and get over yourself. Andre didn't interfere with you at all during the race. I know because I was IN THE RACE.
Congrats Andre. I'll see you in a week.
Right now I am heading up a GLA (Global Learning Academy) at the school IN WHICH I TEACH AT, that is currently partnering with schools in the Caribbean in order to teach one another about their customs and cultures regarding education. Since my M.ed qualifies me to educate at the post-secondary level (college), I am able to head this program. We have found that the educational system is quite similar to one another when entering secondary, post-secondary, graduate, and post-graduate studies. Interestingly, most of the students that come from the University of the West Indies end up completing their education in the United States. Why do they want to come here if their education will be worse? Seems to me like you need to do your research. If there is anything else you need to know...let me know.
FYI - The only errors that I have made I have recognized and corrected.
Chill out dude...coaches come to your country to get athletes because you produce faster track athletes...ABSOLUTLEY NOT FOR EMPLOYEES! Once again, are you kidding me? You are right about the being faster in Jamaica, but you could not be more wrong about education.
The next question is when are you going to transfer? That seems to be the trend at OBU.
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I hope that Thomas gets a lot faster, because otherwise he will starve when he cannot afford groceries. Professional track athletes (besides the elites) do not make enough money as it is. I simply am saying that Thomas is "slow", if you even want to call it that, COMPARED to the NCAA's, DII, and even some DIII athletes. Obviously, he is considerably slower than the professionals are. Even you are smart enough to figure that out. He is NOT slow, he is a BA, but he walks, talks, and acts like an ass. This will get you nowhere in life.
FYI - About half of the field appealed against Thomas, but the judge on that turn said he indeed saw the trip up but was unable to see who was responsible because of the angle in which he was viewing. Had he been on in front of the pack...BYE BYE Thomas.
"but the reality is that you run in the NAIA, your trash."
Just like to say that just because some athletes chose to run at a college level whose auto marks are not as fast, does not mean they are trash. I think that all collegiate athletes deserve respect no matter the competition level. Yes, D1 athletes are margins faster than those in NAIA, but I run D2 and I am slower than many in NAIA. It all depends on what school you feel at home at and the environment which serves you so that you are able to succeed.
Everyone gets fired up now and then.
Got to have the passion!
Don't post on here unless you want to get burned!
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You're a rock. I bet your teachers let you pass all your exams because you paid them. If you're smart, guess what I am trying to say. Yes my time would have been competitive at the NCAA's you "ROCK". YOUR SMALL MINDED.
Nice...you are truly what we in the education field call, "lower level". You would probably be placed in a special education program. Are you kidding?
There is no reason to get defensive, chill out and realize that there are many tools in the NAIA, not just at OBU...maybe they need to get smoked a time or two in order to realize their place in track and field.