The Best State Meet in the US, Texas or California??

A Ohio get in to doe and we got ty weather.

A ohio get in to doe and we got ty weather

up and down the track spectrum its cali. we're from texas (from greenville area)residing in cali and from 40m to 100 to 4x400 to 800 to 3200 to 10,000 its cali. we do it all here in cali

I think with the pop of those 2 states and good weather 85 percent of time and early start is why they dominate but percentage wise Ohio and New Jersey plus lFla would hold there own with cali and Texas and pobably wear there a__ out let me see those kid run in the rain or lite snow into 18mph winds run 48.9 like a kid in ohio did a few years ago temp 40 so the reason they are the best more people better weather and earlier start up days in Feb instead of April like the real world

Great point, i saw a shirt at the track meet this year that said

"We run the ring in the spring to push the ball in the fall"

whats up with that cat is the real question i dont think it moved at all when talking to dwill...nevermind..i saw it breath....TEXAS RULES!!!...but i dont have a mustache :(...i took it off....haha

Population and weather and everything else are just excuses. Lets get down to actual facts.
Texas always drops amazing times in the 100m dash. The only problem is that they run 10.1 or 10.08 or whatever but those times never seem to hold up. I remember Edorian McCullough ran 10.1 some years back but it wasn't counted as a legal time so the record continued to stand at 10.15 (Record recently broken by Jeff Demps from Florida). So the 100m dash times by Texas athletes aren't good evidence at all. Don't get me wrong they are still fast but not as fast as these spectacular times would suggest. In fact, I ran against Edorian McCullough in a 60m dash when he played football at City College of San Francisco. He amazed me by how fast he was so I'm not discounting speed here.
But track is more than a 100m dash and so is California. California often has the national leaders in almost every event. In fact in 2007 state championship meet, I believe 5 national records were broken (Girls Pole Vault, Boys 300h, Girls Triple jump, Girls 100mh and Girls 1600m). That same year, Bryshon Nellum was the fastest junior 200m and 400m sprinter in the world. Even though splits do not count, it is also a note that he ran the fastest 400m split ever recorded by a high school athlete (44.6). Long Beach Poly also dominated at the Penn Relays against Jamaican runners who were 18 and 19 yrs old while the Poly runners were 16, 17, 18. California athletes continue to set national records with Reggie Wyatt breaking the 300mh record again this past weekend. In the field events and the distance events California are also among the leaders.
Texas is up there as well. They also lead the nation in many events. The only difference is that California has athletes setting National Records regularly.
I give the nod to California. There is just too much evidence there and the state is too well rounded in track and field.
If you wanna check the 2007 California state meet go to http://www.cifstate.org.
Go check dyestat.com for the videos and results from the 2009 state meet which was just as great.

I live in Houston and was raised in California.

First of all, anyone thinking that Texas has "horrible" weather as opposed to California's "good" weather, has probably not traveled outside of Texas. Texas and California weather for the most part, during track season is very close. Normally, Texas runs their state meet in May, when it is hardly middle of the summer type weather. California normally runs theirs in first weekend of June. When the meet is in Sacramento (or Clovis this year) the heat is every bit as unforgiving as in Austin. When it is run at Cerritos its cooler. This one fact cannot account for the differences that might be seen from year to year.
Also, for the person that posted the times earlier, why not post distance and field events as well? Posting six of the 32 events as evidence doesn't really strengthen the argument.

New Jersey trumps both

First off,
Not all of the top teams compete at Texas relays. So you shouldn't compare CA to TX based on that track meet. There are plenty of runners who've made state champ that doesn't compete there.

I think TX && CA should have a combined meet during the track season, with all of the top athletes in CA && in TX. Like a Second State meet, located in the same place. Either, let CA runners experience TX heat && humidity in JUNE.. or let TX runners experience a cooler state track meet.

THANK YOU! I am the winner of the 100 hurdles in Class 5A, and i almost couldn't run because of a change of school. [I transferred to my HOME SCHOOL] Texas does have more strict rules that Cali, ESPECIALLY on the amount of races your allowed to run! && let me remind everyone that Texas is KNOWN for its horrible weather, if we had the opportunity to have California's weather, we would MURDER your times!

We've had to postpone our State meet because of the Swine flu.. making our season a month LONGER than anyone else, most-likely. So our runners are exhausted, but STILL have the ability to hang in there with yu all.
Based on the results of this year, Tx beat Ca times in the:
Girls 4x1 - TX: 45.38 ; CA: 45.88
Boys 110h - TX: 13.58 ; CA: 13.76
Girls 100m dash - TX: 11.50 ; CA: 11.54
Boys 100m dash- TX: 10.08 ; CA 10.38
Girls 4x4 - TX: 3:42.75 ; CA: 3:42.91
Boys 4x4 - TX: 3:13.55 ; CA: 3.14.53
The other races are pretty close, but remember of what texas has gone through this track season.
Let UIL or whoever runs California's state track meet get together && run a combined track meet, either in TX OR CA.. TX will dominate.

The only reason the texas and california state meets are better than all the other ones is because of the POPULATION of those 2 states... Those 2 states have more than 25 million people each... most other states have between 3 and 8 million people. So yea they are gonna have more fast people just based on population... I bet if you were to take and compare the percentage of athletes running fast times to the total number of athletes most states would be very even...

I could agree with that point except for one thing.......................

In Texas, you all have these divisional finals at the regional level and the state level. So, you have the 1A state champ, the 2A state champ, the 3A state champ, etc. California doesn't do that. Those division designations end at the section level. Once you get out of your section finals you go to the state meet. At the state meet ALL TEAMS, regardless of division, run in the prelims on Friday night and the BEST NINE TEAMS IN THE STATE run in the final on Saturday. In my opinion, Cali is much tougher in that respect. Who needs a 1A champ, 2A champ, 3A champ, etc. ...In California, the state champion in an event, is the STATE CHAMPION.
Looking at the times from this past weekend, if I'd run what I did in high school, I could've been a 1A state champion in Texas. (rolling my eyes). In California, I couldn't even get out of the southern section finals.

yeeeeeee hawwwwwww,

your still neglecting my point that cali has 36 million people and texas has 24 million. and yes i have family in sacramento and i've been their when it gets up to 100. what i want you to do is visit austin, dallas, houston in the summer when the actual temperature is 105 and the heat index is 115. you have no idea what humidity is and its effect on the body. Yes, congrats your state meet is faster, but just looking at the population argument alone is enough to explain that.

Cut the excuses. Cali had a better meet and that's all there is to it. The idiots in Texas who think California is 75 degrees and sunny year around need to clear up their facts. The conditions at the meet happened to be great but that's not at all indicative of the weather for the whole state on a regular basis. You Texans spend a month of the summer in Riverside or other areas of the inland empire and you'll be singing a different tune.

Yes, most adults in California do have better things to do with their Friday nights than attend high school football games, but football still saps funding from every other sport further west too. It's given supremacy nationwide and your case is no different.

In Texas you have got only the elite making it to state, you don't have any softies coming in. Only two people from 4 regions reppin' the entire state of 21 million+, if that means you have the third best best time in the state but the third best in the region, then our stayin' home come state time. Unfortunatly some of the top times in the state never make it to the state track meet where they might have ran better than they have ever ran before or had an off meet. Bottom line you don't get second chances like in california. Not to mention Texas kids are running in the natural sauna of Texas which does make a difference. Plus football is king in Texas drastically cutting funds, time and athletes' attention torward track.(ex. focus on football instead of track)

Again, Texas is the only state in the country that doesn’t run prelims at the state meet. They take the top two finishers in each event out of each region and run a final at the state meet. And get this; they draw lanes for the finals. How ridiculous. This eliminates 3rd place finishers on down at regional’s that could have got points at the state meet. This is how one person can win state and how state can be won with 40 points or less. It’s so hard to get everything to state. That's what makes Lancaster girls track team winning 8 in a row in 4A so outstanding. State championships are harder to come by in Texas. We have been fighting this bullcrap for years. There is a proposal under review for the first time for a new state qualifying system. So everyone from Texas that wants the best at the state meet in Texas, call UIL and voice you opinion. Those good old boys in Texas (UIL) only care about football.

you can't compare Cali with texas for many reasons..
Qualifying for 1600=4:14 or less
19th place in the 3200 was 9:07
Reggie Wyatt nation leader
Toby Villalva, Mac Fleet, and Elias Gedyon.
Nuff Said
Texas one person can win the team title

consider this, the total population of california is 36 million! the total population for texas is 24 million there is NO reason it should even be close so to even put the two into the same equation boast big for texas. plus you want to compare distance events? your comparing apples to oranges, cali runs all its runners in one race, texas splits up the talent and the BIGGEST factor is california weather, NO HUMIDITY, and hardly anything over 90 let alone 98F!

I think its ludacris to compare the 2. just too many different variables.

Dual meet scoring on the guy's side yields 82 California 64 Texas." How is that being scored. I'm pretty sure there are more points than that to be added. 30 pts per event times whatever number of events is more than 146

I think it would be a good track meet for the two states. You'd have the best competitors in the whole country for sure.

well, it didnt happen much this year but thats pretty common down here in texas with all them distance runners round the dallas area.

Ok, for all yall cali people, you werent there. Yall didnt have a guy brake the 100 record now did yall? and you didnt have a guy tie the LJ record, and yall didnt have a 18'1" polevaulter. and yall didnt have a girl win the 1a division by herself(she'd have won in cali to). But how many of those people do you see running professionally? Exactly! Majority of professional track and field athletes(well, the good ones) are went to a texas high school. oh, and for the 100, LJ, TJ, 200, and 110s, the wind was allowable.

texas can only get 8 into the final...both states have good runners left out but it just seem that if texas could get more into the finals then these two states would be so close. still gonna go with texas though. texas state meet has serious history. steve magness, eric henry, colby lowe.

well actually northern california has a problem with weather just about every year not so much southern california and most of the fastest times comes out of southern california and every once in a while from northern california

So I'm comparing results... we win

- California

Cali Track Man, kids attending schools outside their area does affect the relays. That's putting together an all-star team on the relays. It's common sense. I can't believe you can't see that. We can't do that in Texas. Desoto, Duncanville, and Lancaster are all 15 mins from Dallas Carter and Kimble. If those kids were transferring to two those schools every year, their relays would have the best times in the nation every year. And that's not even counting the rest of the Dallas metro-plex.

16 events are contested at the CA State Championships for boys and 16 for girls. Of the 32 national records in those events, 8 are held by Texans, which is pretty impressive... until you consider that 18 are held by Californians.

Dual meet scoring on the guy's side yields 82 California 64 Texas, and that's with Texas having wind aided marks in the 100, 200, 110, TJ and LJ. Take out those 5 and it's 69-32.

This debate was convincingly decided in Clovis today

California is definitely not doubting Texas. I know because we attend your Texas Relays every year for the competition, but your remark about the athletes attending schools outside of their area has nothing to do with anything. That is an instate issue that effects our schools not the ongoing question of "Who's the power house Texas or Cali?" Nomatter what their district they reside in Cali baby. The fast times that they run still belong to Cali.

that is crazy!

California has 19 guys under 9:08! Thats gotta be unprecedented for a single race

in Ohio danny neff did that this year, cory leslie did that last year. i'm pretty sure donnie roys could've done it this year too. soooooo yeahhhh...umm not really sure what else to say.
oh, yeah. just check milesplit

Cali Distance
1600
1 Mac Fleet 12 Univers C/Sd 4:05.33 10
2 Elias Gedyon 10 Loyola/ss 4:07.26 8
3 Toby Villalva 12 El Toro /ss 4:09.42 6
4 David Cardona 12 N Trrnce/ss 4:09.90 4
5 Jonathan Sanchez 12 Buchanan/ce 4:10.04 2
6 Tyler Valdes 12 Dana Hlls/ss 4:10.42 1
7 Travis Edwards 11 Royal/ss 4:11.89
8 James Cameron 12 M Viejo/ss 4:14.15
3200
1 Chris Schwartz Foothill/ce 8:51.60 10
2 Collin Jarvis 12 Rnch Buna/sd 8:53.78 8
3 Heyden Wooff 10 Camarillo/ss 8:55.16 6
4 Garrett Rowe 11 MountainV/cc 8:55.71 4
5 Matt McElroy 11 Edison(HB)ss 8:56.44 2
6 Dan Mitchell 12 Del Campo/sj 8:56.56 1
7 Erik Olson 11 Novato/nc 8:56.56
8 Isaac Chavez 12 Barstow/ss 8:57.40

Yet the whole field was owned by IL's Thode running alone.

This argument could go either way depending on the year. However, California does have some advantages. I am from Texas, and, this year we had to have the worst weather ever for Track. At least half of our season is in cold weather every year. Cali does not have this problem. The cold rain killed us this year. Next, as far as the relays goes, I've heard how California is not as strict as Texas when it comes to kids transfering to state powers and living out of district. There was an article in Track & Field News a couple of years ago about Long Beach Poly or Wilson in which one of the female athletes lived almost 90 miles away and she lived with one of the other athletes during the week. This was common knowledge. This would have never happened in Texas. UIL would have stepped in. Another thing, the boys 4x400 meter relay in Texas has taken a hit since the boys 4x200 meter relay has been added to the State Meet. Most coaches in Texas load up the 4x2 with the same four from the 4x1. You will very seldom see a 4x4 in Texas with at least 2 athletes/sprinters from the 4x1 on it. Without sprinters on your 4x4, you will never run under 3:10. Then, you have to take in account that the athletes can only run three running events in Texas. This takes away from the overall top performances of Texas every year. What if our top sprinters in Texas could run on two relays and run two running events or three relays and one running event. This is also a main reason why male sprinters don't see the 4x4. They are usually on both the 4x1 and 4x2 relays and in either the 100 or 200. And last but not least, WE DON'T HAVE PRELIMS AT THE STATE MEET IN TEXAS!!!!! We leave top performers home every year because we take the top two in each region (4) and run a finals at the State Meet. We have 3rd place finishers in Regionals that could place 3rd at the State Meet. WE ONCE LEFT A 3:10 4x400 METER RELAY AT HOME BECAUSE THEY PLACED 3RD AT REGIONALS!!!!! Texas is the only state that does it this way. When California has the occasional edge on Texas at times, remember that Texas is not operating on the same level playing field with California. Taking all that into consideration, how can you doubt Texas?

in the 1600m Cali OWNED. Tex (in the 400 relay) got a 45.38, Cal got a 45.88

K.G. will own the 800 and by the way Cali men will own Tex boys

just look at the national records for boys that will give u the answer

When it comes to boys texas has the boys on lockdown. the sprint relay record from texas is the national record and there was a team that beat that school all year and drop the stick in regionls, and they were in the same school disrtict.

OH...

I think Florida deserves some respect for fastests for sure. Probably not nearly as deep as Cali or Tex but definitely fast.

On the main page: "Who's state meet is the best???" I think you meant "WHOSE state meet is best?"

When you have about 36 million people in your state, you are likely going to be good.

Just two hours ago we the best 3200 thus far this season. Parker stinson 8:54, reid connor 8:55, james webb 8:55

How is this even an argument? The times and the performances are making me think CA.

You needed 4:13 for boys and 4:57 for girls at the slowest to qualify out of prelims to finals. 'nuff said.
Oh wait.

Umm... ever heard of Jordan Hasay? There, now 'nuff said.

How many state meets this year besides california have gotten a national record during prelims? California has the most depth out of any state every year. Sure some states may have less population with a good amount of depth or some outstanding athletes, but california has outstanding athletes year after year.So it is hands down the pest statemeet.

Illinois is the best.

everyones knows cali is faster, look at bryshawn, or joey hughes, come on, and look at the long beach poly high school track team in cali, the girls went to the texas relays and dominated, and last year the guys where the best as well
cali owns texas

http://www.sml1.com/recordtiming/cif2009/

Just look at the times in the PRELIMS of the Cali state meet. That should help your decision.
CLOVIS, CALI REPRESENT!

We're forgetting another great state--Minnesota! 4 girls in the AA 3200 went under 11:00 today. Made for a very exciting race. Not to mention the top 2 girls were a 9th and 8th grader respectively. I would love for flotrack to do coverage at the MN State Meet sometime :).

ummmm WASHINGTON?

I think people are underestimating NY and NJ, in terms of population those two and Illinois are the three best state meets. I am from California and competed at the state meet last year, I am completely unbiased. Sure Cali and Tex will be insane, but I wouldn't be surprised if either NY or NJ beat us California kids or the Tex guys this year. We shall see.

They always are.

Illinois should be considered, seriously.

What is this? The Joliet West High School Glee Club signing in. There's only one good runner in Illinois this year! Angela Bizzarri (Fighting Illini)! lol

Joe Newton?

Illinois FTW

P.S.: BALLERNESS

Illinois FTW

OHIO FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forget Texas and California, even though I'm not form this state I gotta give big props to New Jersey, because they only have a third of Texas' population and not even a fourth of CA's population yet they produce talent that can match both those states and almost has as much depth. BIG PROPS TO NJ holdin it down for the northeast, MA is next best.

CA has it..The best

The problem with the Nike XC Championship is the teams have to come from the same school. California has gotten away from that whole huge centralized school floor plan years ago. We just don't bus kids a ton of miles to school every day. On the other hand the Foot Locker comparison tells a different story. At Balboa Park last year 3 boys, 3 girls from Texas (total points scored, 139). There were 11 from California, but I'll only score the first 3 in each race to keep it even. 49 plus 44, total points, 93. 46 positions better just between the first six runners from each state, and California had 5 more runners to boot.
USATF XC Championships in Maryland also came down to California vs. Texas. 1st place girls, South Coast team coached by San Clemente HS coach Dunne. 2nd place, that Dallas Metro Striders team that is there every year, and 3rd place, the Buffalo Babes, also always there, from up in the bay area of CA.
Personally I don't think anyone will win this argument. We conceed and give it to the guy from Jersey! Their top state distance gal is going to Oregon in the fall. Ka-Ching! I'll shut up with that!

we all know that california is more stacked than anything other state in distance.

p.s. for all you non-californians, we're not from "cali" its california.

Ryan, you are a PIRATE. Yarrrrr!

California ftw, hands down

if you want to compare distance why not take NXN. reed connor TX was champ.
girls side chelsey and sarah andrews were 1-2 both from TX.

then boys team standings
the woodlands TX 4th
cedar park TX 8th
Buchanan 9th
dana point 17th
enough said....head to head TX owns Cali in distance

California! You gotta look at the depth and consistency. Also count the number of kids that come out of the state meet and go on to NCAA champions and world class stars.

If you only look at records - Texas has not had anyone touch their sprint records...that were established in the early eighties!

Ok you have to give up for TX and CALI they are both very strong in the sport of Track and Field hands down. Some years TX has the fastest times each year and vice versa for CALI, But if you really want to know who the fastest state is between the two are then there should be a CALI vs TX meet and them go head to head. Until that happens just have to compare the times, but i wll say this between the two states CALI is the only state that has a true champion every year while TX breaks there's down into 1A-5A

Let's face it. Texas' bread and butter in high school sports is FOOTBALL!!! Track and field is just something to do in the off-season. Every great back is also a great sprinter. They grow on trees in Texas.

My understanding is that in Texas HS track and field competition all relays are scored double points. If true and I were coaching I really wouldn't give a rat's butt for all the 800 and up distances. You win your meets with the sprinters. Just glancing at the state records lists for Cali vs. Tx it would appear that is true. From 400 on down they have the edge. Distance Cali has the edge. That certainly spills over into Cross-country season too. Not even a contest.

just a quick note for Ryan and Pepperdine alumnus DWill

population comparisons...New Jersey: 8.6 million people compared to Texas: 24.3 million and California: 34.7 million
New Jersey had 10 guys run under 415, 8 broke 910 and the winner of the 400 ran 46.6....9 girls broke 5 min, and 13 girls dipped under 10:55. are those times not "smokin fast" enough DWill?

The cat on the bed looks dead, lol. Nice preview guys.

No love for nj?

No one has mentioned the fact that Texas' State meet is like three weeks later than it normally is this year, thanks to the swine flu scare in April/May. Way to mess up the peaking phase of all the student-athletes, UIL. Did California, or any other state, have issues with their governing bodies like this?

California, Texas, New Jersey top three.

Im thinking BIG TEXAS!!!! c.j. brown nathan collier james webb drew buttler reed connor craig lutz stephen curry jake roberts nathan white!!! Brooke Farris Sara Andrews Lauren Smith!!! o and CHELSEY SEVESISN!!!!!

NJ! Deepest state this side of the Mississippi.

You cant forget about Florida. That produced, Xavier Carter, Walter Dix, Torrin Lawrence just to name a few.

yeah we're working on it

I hear that ppl in Texas think that it should be its own country?

Texas Boys Records

100m 10.13 NR Derrick Florence Galveston Ball 1986
200m 20.13 NR Roy Martin Dallas Roosevelt 1985
400m 45.36 Marlon Ramsey Beaumont Westbrook 1994
800m 1:48.21 Jonathan Johnson Abilene 2001
1500m 3:46.5 Ruben Reina San Antonio Jay 1986
1600m 4:01.02y Steve Magness Klein Oak 2003
3200m 8:50.79 Colby Lowe Southlake Carroll 2008
110H 13.40 Jermaine Cooper Giddings 1998
300H 35.33 Robert Griffin Copperas Cove 2007
400H 49.77 Kerron Clement LaPorte 2002
4x100R 39.76 NR Milton Wesley
Montie Clopton
Michael Franklin
DeMario Wesley Fort Worth O. D. Wyatt 1998
4x200R 1:23.31 NR Milton Wesley
4x400R 3:08.55 Raymond Sutton
Mike Landry
Chris Price
Marlon Ramsey Beaumont Westbrook 1994
4x110H Relay 57.26 Baytown Sterling 1982
Sprint Medley Relay 3:23.3y Spring Branch Memorial 1967
4x800R 7:39.0 Houston Strake Jesuit 1980
Distance Medley Relay 9:53.3 Conroe McCullough 1987
4x1600R 17:04.7 NR Conroe McCullough 1986
HJ 7' 7" NR Andra Manson Brenham 2002
LJ 26' 8.5" Sheddrick Fields Dallas SOC 1991
TJ 52-1¼ Chris Carter Hearne 2007
PV 18-2¼ Eric Eshbach Orangefield 1999
SP 81' 3.5" NR Michael Carter Dallas Jefferson 1979
Discus 215' 2" Brian Robison Splendora 2002
Decathlon 7045*
6800 Adam Fretwell
Adam Fretwell Cypress Creek
Cypress Creek 2004
2003

OH-IO!!!

The best highscool meet in North America is clearly Ontarios provincial championships.

Everything is bigger and better and faster in texas. end of discussion

i like the cat on the bed plus nj is pretty good, those numbers sounded good

once we get the texas state meet times we can compare

girls state meet record
100m Wind Legal
Cali:11.14 Marion Jones (Thousand Oaks) 1992
Texas:

200m Wind Legal
Cali: 22.52 Allyson Felix (Los Angeles Baptist) 2003
400m
Cali: 50.74 Monique Henderson (Morse, San Diego) 2000
800m
Cali:2:04.91 Trena Hull (Compton) 1984
1600m
Cali: 4:33.82 *Christine Bab (Woodbridge, Irvine) 2008
3200m
Cali: 9:52.13 Jordan Hasay (Mission College Prep, San Luis Obispo) 2008
100m H
Cali: 13.03 *Vashti Thomas (Mt. Pleasant, San Jose) 2007 (+2.0)
300m H
Cali: 40.10 Ebony Collins (Wilson, Long Beach) 2005
4X100 Relay
Cali: 44.70 St. Bernard (Playa Del Rey) 1997
4X400 Relay
Cali: 3:35.49 Poly, Long Beach 2004
PV
Cali: 14-01.00 Tori Anthony (Castilleja, Palo Alto) 2007
LJ
Cali: 22-00.50 -Marion Jones (Thousand Oaks) 1993
TJ
Cali: 44-00.50 Juliana Yendork (Walnut) 1991
HJ
Cali: 6-0 Latrese Johnson (Clovis) 1985
SP
Cali: 52-11.5 Kristin Heaston (Ygnacio Valley, Concord) 1993
Disc
Cali: 177-1 Chaniqua Ross (Laguna Creek, Elk Grove) 1997

some of the stuff got cut off..
ahh
C: stood for California and then i put
T: a line after that but it got cut off...

Can someone copy and paste for Texas
STATE MEET records..

and then we'll tally up which is better....
girls are coming soon
Boys State Meet Records
100m Legal Wind
C: 10.25 -Henry Thomas (Hawthorne) 1985
T:
200m Legal Wind
C: 20.43 -Bryshon Nellum (Poly, Long Beach) 2007
400m
C: 45.09 -Henry Thomas (Hawthorne) 1985
800m
C: 1:46.45 -Michael Granville (Bell Gardens) 1996
1600m
C: 4:00.29 German Fernandez (Riverbank) 2008
3200m
C: 8:34.23 German Fernandez (Riverbank) 2008
110H
C: 13.39 Kevin Craddock (James Logan, Union City) 2004
300H
C: 35.28 -Jeshua Anderson (Taft, Woodland Hills) 2007
4X100 Relay
C: 40.14 Poly, Long Beach 1999
4X400 Relay
C: 3:08.66 Muir, Pasadena 1996
HJ
C:7-3.25 Lee Balkin (Glendale) 1979
LJ
C:26-04.75 James Stallworth (Tulare) 1989
TJ
C:52-05.75 Marcus Hooks (Lakewood) 1986
PV
C: 74-04.75 Brent Noon (Fallbrook) 1990
Disc
C: 213-07 Bo Taylor (Newport Harbor) 2006
C: 17-02.00 -Nico Weiler (Los Gatos) 2007

dyestat seems to think it's texas. gooooooooooooooooooo texas.

california.theres times are trash compared to texas

Hey you all missed out...have to take into account the wyoming factor with its altitude...times mean nothing...lets see you run sub 9:30 at six thousand feet with thirty mile hour wind coming two ways. welcome to true hell

Schmitty 26 minutes ago.
New Jersey... 8 guys at sub 9:10 in one race and 12 at 4:15 or better... Andrews 1:48, Smith at 2:04... Vena 72'8" as a sopre, 2 of the top 3 400h in the country, 46.6 in the 400m, 3 girls in the 1600m at 4:46, 4 sub 2:10 in the girls 800m. US #1 for hs in 4 events! The debate is over, that title belongs to NJ!

You missed the joke dude.

Cali is the best state for track in the world!!! we are always consistent with Greatness!!!

New Jersey... 8 guys at sub 9:10 in one race and 12 at 4:15 or better... Andrews 1:48, Smith at 2:04... Vena 72'8" as a sopre, 2 of the top 3 400h in the country, 46.6 in the 400m, 3 girls in the 1600m at 4:46, 4 sub 2:10 in the girls 800m. US #1 for hs in 4 events! The debate is over, that title belongs to NJ!

First of all how does Maine and CT get coverage but Massachusetts gets no love when MA is clearly the best state in New England...Oh and 2nd California has more depth in the mid distance/distance events but the Sprints in Texas is really exciting not to mention the Dallas vs. Houston battle every year...GO TEXAS

cali is better no question about it!

Untrue.

Dyestat's list of top number of elites per population winner (drum roll)...
You guessed it: Wyoming.
Texas is third by they way, ahead of Washington.

I don't know about the Olson over Reed thing. Hopefully we will see it at NON. Here we go for CALIFORNIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWOsbGP5Ox4

never heard of jordan hasay? where have you been the last 4 years?
yes i have heard of chelsey. jordan is better then chelsey by the way....

How can you be positive Reed wood Destroy Olson when Reed hasn't run that fast this year? c'mon!

Never heard of Jordan Hasay

Ummmm... ever heard of Chelsey Sveinsson? Too bad she's not running at the state meet... (private school)

Would you bet that eric olson would beat reed connor if they were in the same race?

I am positive reed would destroy him.

Eric Olson of Novato california ran 8:55 3200 atleast twice this year, beating the 8:57 in Texas. I think it will be very close, but california will for sure take away the distance running.

Dunne's PR is actually 10:16 from Arcadia. And last year it was amazing, Christine Bab, Laurynne Chetelat, etc....

ya course they are the 2 best they've got 10times as many people as most states!
WA best running state per person no question

Cali hands down....Texas is good but not as good

let me help you compare those times with cal's best:

eric olson 8:55 3200m
mac fleet 4:05 1600m
elias geydon 4:07 1600m
jordon hasay: 9:52 3200m (4:14 1500m)
alex dunne: 10:17 3200m
you lose!

Heck yeah texas boy ...

California has more depth from the sprints and field events to the distances. Ryan - why don't you guys score merged results to settle it once and for all?

after you see this video, i think you will agree texas is the best

TEXAS! We got Reed Connor out of the Woodlands, the Nike Cross Nationals Champion, running an 8:57 3200. Also we got Sarah Andrews and Ashley Isham battling it out in the 3200. And we cant forget DREW BUTLER! Also out of the Woodlands with a 4:09 Mile and a 1:50 flat 800. This kid is unstoppable.

that is one dirty stache.

But Texas doesn't know what they are messin with!

Tommie Potson said:
"Ryan Hall's arm warmers are better than both state meets combined."

.....Agreed.

DWill you should have said "Umm... ever heard of Jordan Hasay?"

NEW JERSEY

Ryan Hall's arm warmers are better than both state meets combined.

The caption for this video is "The best state meet in the U.S." If we are talking only times then California probably has the edge this year. If you want to talk atmosphere then Texas wins hands down. Mike Myers stadium in Austin is head and shoulders above the rest of the nation.

Depth wise CA > Texas. Girls 3200 is RIDICULOUS!!!

Hey Alex try naming someone from this year who has done it. That's what this topic is about.

Mac Fleet can do that if he wanted too...He's run a 1:50 before and a 4:05 split in a 4 x Mile. I believe Elias Gedyon could do that as well. German could have done that last year also! lol

Hey Colin, how bout German Fernandez with a 4 flat in the 1600 and then 8 34 in the 3200. Im pretty sure that dominates a 4 10 and a 1 50.
West Coast!

lol

but seriously, CA has the best state meet in the US, the southern section alone would destroy 90% of all other state meets

Name a runner from cali who doubled with running 1:50 and 4:10. Also ran a 1:53 the day before for a prelim. 4:10 after a 1:50 an hour and a half before. There isn't one. Texas over cali forever.

You forgot about the indiana state meet too.

RYAN YOU PIECE OF POO
you USED THE DOLLAR that i gave to you,
I hope you forever smell of ripe pumpkin juice mixed with a hint of goose defacation

Sincerely, angry flo track fan,
pscrpt: by the way, damn nice stash

Ummm... ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Andrew run 1:48.66 at new jersey Meet of Champs

California will produce faster times obviously because the weather is 10000 x BETTER than TEXAS.

Texas will be hot and humid in the 90 degrees for distance. And not to mention the factor of the runners who were left at home such 9:04, 9:13 which of one is me.

You guys are exerting alot of unintended pressure on these young ones. There aint gonna be no one to break my 8 record though. Believe that!

California>Texas

Mac Fleet
Elias Gedyon
Eric Olson

Jordan Hasay
Alex Dunne
Need I say more?

which meet in Maine will the coverage be of?

Don't rely on one male miler to support your state because Thode will take that prize. That issue will be resolved at Nike Outdoor Nationals though.

end of the story

That's because California Southern Section about as big as any state in the nation, except Texas of course. Though I will agree sadly California probably has the depth in the bag, but Texas is in 2nd by maybe 1-2 guys.

Gonna have to go with Texas the Sprint Relays are always nuts.

California's Southern Section alone is almost as deep as any state in the Nation. Depth wise, California is on top.

Couple of things, have a great time in OHIO Ryan and second how did you not get arrested standing outside of a school with a mustache like that? You must have looked shady as hell.

NEW YORK!!!! the best state meet

I live in Texas and i definently think Califoronia is the best this year forsure

California hands down. Mac Fleet will tear it up and show everyone that cali is the best state meet ever

What about the great pole vault competition? Had a great workout video yesterday and today nobody is talking about the pole vault.

TEXAS FOR SURE!!!

we cant be stopped. for instance i know a guy who is a 9:08/4:17 guy who didnt make it to state. i think he was like 4th in his region

Jordan Hasey homeboy! I sware I would marry her if she was of age!

Toss aside your Texas pride.
In California speed resides!

Oh and plus we have Chelsey Sveinsson who does not compete at the state meet because she goes to a private school but she is very near Jordan Hassay and she's only a sophomore!

Ever heard of her? probably not but she ran 4:18 1500 and a virtually solo 10:12 3200m.

Texas fa sho! Mark you should have thrown some texas stats at DWill!

The #1 ranked times of the two states are virtually even, but I think Texas has a lot more depth and it's going to suck that it might not show because of the qualifying system in texas where only the top two from each region go to state. So if you're in a stacked region like region 2 (check it out: http://tx.milesplit.us/meets/45099/results/93016), you kind of get screwed.

TEXAS FTW. german who? we craig lutz, zachary ornales, colin slattery, and countless others are gonna show whats up!

If we're going to talk consistently from year to year, and include ALL EVENTS not just relays, it's hands down California with the best state meet.

Reed Connor, Cj Brown, Drew Butley??? yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh texas is gunna dominate and all our relays will obliterate calis

new jersey !

Cool cat. Is that the Puma cat?

Ummm. MINNESOTA is this weekend. Which means Zach Mellon trying for another sub 1:50. how is that not a big deal?

Florida ofcourse...check DyeStat and see which state has the most top highschool times this year.

keep in mind a team out of the state meet is duncanvilles 4x4 which ran 3:15 some great athletes being left out of this one

Ca by far

Massachusetts state meet is this weekend as well.

TEXAS

hate to go against my state on this one but i'd have to say the CA meet with wyatt, hasay, fleet, and the outstanding relay teams.
although i dont now how the CA and TX sprint relays stack up since i dont follow those really.

although i'd like to see tx prove me wrong this weekend!

hmm according to the video good runners do get left at home in CA too, my bad for not doing research on that part

Well I'm never one to look past the true best state (Illinois, of course), but as far as this debate goes, I'm going to say California.

this is kind of a weird year to compare because this years texas state meet is almost a full month past the date when it was supposed to be (due to that stupid swine flu scare) so many athletes (although hopefully this wont happen!) could be affected by this because their peak could be all thrown off. also california has all of their best athletes competing whereas texas leaves out many good people (9:04/4:13 guy, ect) due to a crappy system that only qualifies 8 people from each class in the whole state to the state meet.

just my 2 cents :)

Texas baby is where all the athletes come from lol!!!!

TEXAS

I'll be watchin Cali all day!

lol @ the cat on dwill's bed just chillen

California will dominate!!!!

Westside

Oh Hi Oh!

Cali, duh!

NY baby!

Better by the DAY Ryan. You are a BEAST-MAN!