and now Jimmy is on his way to Nationals..............go Jimmy
#41
Blow Me May 16, 2009 at 2:46pm
Anonymous Coward said: “Wyner is the only person I have ever seen get a standing ovation for being DQed. People weren't just booing the sportmanship in this instance, they were boing Wyner the person. He is completely correct in the interview when he states that he is "hated by everyone." He's not hated because he's good, he's hated because hes an absolute ahole.”
sounds like someone is upset they get no attention because they are too slow
heps spectator said: “"Wyner's outstretched arms, his hands mockingly beckoning every other runner behind him and "daring" them to catch up to him, was the most obnoxious display of poor sportsmanship I have ever seen" ”
That move has been done many times before. The kid was excited. Maybe not exactly the same, but does anyone remember when Dan Wilson was celebrating his 1500 win at Big Easts in 2002 and then was nipped at the line by Tom Parlapiano. Classic example of being "dared" to catch up and then doing it. Photo Below.
He really shouldn't have compared himself to Usain Bolt (the fastest man in the world). Even though it was his first win, he should have acted like he has won before. But he really shouldn't have been DQ'ed either; that was bogus.
I didn't even know you could be disqualified for celebrating in track and field.
By this logic the NBA should also nullify Glen Davis' shot at the buzzer for the Celtics the other day since he taunted the crowd afterwards. This could never fly in any major sport. Period.
The guy celebrated because he won a race! That's why we do this: to win! and if we can't enjoy it then whats the point? He celebrated down the home straight in the last 50m or so, when he was clearly going to win! I wouldn't even say it was disrespectful of him from there!
The people who want to get this guy disqualified is why track is perceived to be such a boring sport by people outside of it.
#33
You Weren't There May 12, 2009 at 6:15am
To everyone: maybe it was a little over the top to be disqualified
To everyone who wasn't there: Understand this. Don't take this out on Dartmouth. Take it out on the Ivy League. Just because Dartmouth was closest to the finish line when the booing started doesn't mean everyone should be hating on them. The announcers and Jimmy Wyner put unfair pressure on Dartmouth for something everyone participated in. It was also 7/8ths of the Ivy League that gave a standing ovation to the announcement that Wyner was disqualified.
Having watched the entire finish I can tell you this, the video captured nothing of his victory celebration. I perfectly agree that the video does not look like grounds for disqualification. But I think the majority of the people who saw Wyner's face as he came down the stretch, he was telling a much different story. To those who thought his celebration lacked taunting of the other competitors, it didn't. His arm gestures merely tell a fraction of the story, while his face told much more.
Make your opinions all you want. Just know that you don't have the whole story. Not even the flotrak guys in the press box.
#32
Anonymous Coward May 11, 2009 at 7:31pm
It's always the losers who call it unsportsmanlike conduct. Us winners call it, triumph.
#31
Al Jackson May 11, 2009 at 7:13pm
How does he get a fifth year and Liam Boylan Pett could not for Columbia. I do think Teach for America is really commendable but his display was OTT and being DQed is also OTT As they say the word team does not have an I in it but it sure as me in it and Wyner said he was waiting five years so we know where his head is at. Glad to see he does not get six years.
jimmy wyner is the man. i dont understand why everyone is so upset about his celebration. no one bashed rupp because of his celebration after his indoor dmr win. the only thing that was classless about this ordeal was the fans booing him after his victory. i'm glad he pwned them via a bow. truly awesome.
#27
Princeton Son May 11, 2009 at 12:04pm
So if I fell in that race would you be proud of me?
If I finished first because the officials DQ the winner would you be proud of me?
If I grow up to be a garbage man would you be proud of me?
Take your class and get a life. Why did you and mom get a divorce?
I’m not going to give you anything for fathers’ day this year.
#26
Jake A May 11, 2009 at 11:56am
It was a crass display by Wyner. But to now list someone else is the winner is to turn history into mendacity, which is far worse. I was never second or close to it in any conference championship, but I would not accept a "victory" under these circumstances. Wyner beat everyone, end of story.
#25
Bias May 11, 2009 at 11:49am
Yeah i agree with in the lime light. I don't think this would be an issue if a columbia or harvard kid had done the same thing. I definitely don't think anyone would have booed or chanted disqualify.
#24
J.R. May 11, 2009 at 11:11am
He ran and won the race. Good for him.
It was a good race. I didn't know who Wyner was before this but he ran a good race all the way. It was very petty to disqualify him but means nothing. He ran and he won. Now he can move on to better things.
#23
In The Lime Light May 11, 2009 at 11:09am
I think that the issue was bigger than just jimmy, Cornell has won the last 6 outdoor Heps before this one, now its 7 in a row. Clearly they are hated for that, the other teams and the officials are on the look out for every small thing they can put against Cornell. When you are on top everybody wants you to do something wrong, just to bring you down.
#22
Andrew May 11, 2009 at 11:00am
That was a totally low class display by Jimmy Wyner, would not be proud if my son did that. But there is no way he should have been disqualified. (I am a Princeton track alumnus, we benefited directly from the DQ, but I still think it was a bad call.)
I tend to agree that our sport is too boring. I do not know what he has done in the past, but the race was entertaining. Our sport is going down a road where only the people who participate, watch it, and that is not a good thing.
#20
Reminder May 11, 2009 at 1:25am
This is not the first time Wyner has been disqualified.
Everyone needs to relax. He was excited that he won. What about when Ryan Hall when celebrated for the entire last mile at the marathon olympic trials? No one thought that was questionable sportsmanship or that he was disrespecting anyone. I do admit that he could have done without the celebrating but I don't think anyone should be insulted. You all need to get a grip and in no way did that call for disqualification.
"Forget the bow after the race for a minute - Wyner's outstretched arms, his hands mockingly beckoning every other runner behind him and "daring" them to catch up to him, was the most obnoxious display of poor sportsmanship I have ever seen."
That's a gross misrepresentation of what happened.
#16
Anonymous Coward May 10, 2009 at 11:36pm
"its really team oriented.....i've been waiting 5 years to win it"
...need i say anymore...
#15
Anonymous Coward May 10, 2009 at 11:20pm
Wyner is the only person I have ever seen get a standing ovation for being DQed. People weren't just booing the sportmanship in this instance, they were boing Wyner the person. He is completely correct in the interview when he states that he is "hated by everyone." He's not hated because he's good, he's hated because hes an absolute ahole.
I thought it was awesome. People are babies. Like the comment below me. I thought it was great, when you make a field look like a bunch of HS kids do whatever! No reason to DQ! That sucks. People are old fashioned and this is why our sport is going in the tank, because stuff like this that captures the excitement is considered distasteful.
Jeff you sound like a real loser.
#13
Jeff Randall May 10, 2009 at 10:00pm
The entire stadium booed Wyner for his celebration not just the Dartmouth contingent and the entire stadium cheered when the official results showed Maag as the winner. I personally had been waiting for my own win in the steeple for 3 years (having finished 2,2,3) and when I finally got my win; my celebration was not directed at my fellow competitors. The decision was the officials call. Unsportsman like - yes. Warrenting DQ, according to Ivy Officials - yes.
#12
JK May 10, 2009 at 9:38pm
I thought the Ivy League didn't allow 5th year competitors?
#11
Anonymous Coward May 10, 2009 at 9:23pm
Yeah, while I don't think that what he did really warranted a DQ, it was definitely not classy at all. It is difficult to feel too bad for the guy, since he clearly doesn't have a whole lot of respect for anyone else in the race.
#10
Anonymous Coward May 10, 2009 at 9:21pm
Usain Bolt revealed his class when he beat his chest like a territorial gorilla at the Olympic games. This chump embarrassed himself with his similarly idiotic, self-absorbed antics. What better way to disgrace your country or your school by wearing their jersey, but declare 'ME ME ME ME ME'.
And like, I thought like, that Ivy League kids were like, supposed to like, sound intelligent and like, eloquent.
#9
Heps Spectator May 10, 2009 at 8:47pm
Celebrating a victory after crossing the finish line is one thing. For those in the stands, however, it was obvious that Wyner's celebration was clearly not what the officials' DQ targeted. Forget the bow after the race for a minute - Wyner's outstretched arms, his hands mockingly beckoning every other runner behind him and "daring" them to catch up to him, was the most obnoxious display of poor sportsmanship I have ever seen. I've spent the last 4 years watching Ivy League sports, and I have never seen something that disgusting. The call was completely deserved.
#8
Wyner Fan May 10, 2009 at 8:24pm
Track needs more guys like Jimmy Wyner. His passion is clearly evident, and I will never knock a man for that. The celebration was perfectly acceptable, the bow was a bit out of line but he just finished a race and clearly did not think it through. Very unclassy of Dartmouth fans to boo. Had Tom Robbins pulled away from the field and thrown his hands to the sky in a fit of celebration, they would have cheered him into a victory lap.
Wyner, good luck. I hope for the sport of track and field you come back.
#7
Lame May 10, 2009 at 7:13pm
I think it is perfectly fine to celebrate a big win, one that has been in the works for 5 years. thats cool, i understand your feeling there. But i think its the approach he took that was all wrong. after watching the video it looked like it was more him out to rub it in other peoples faces rather than to celebrate the accomplishment. besides the bow at the end was just totally lame and made him look like a fool...i feel bad for you teammates and coaches for the embarrassment you caused them, learn to win with class buddy, it will bring you a long way
Babies said: “Everyone that thinks he needed to be DQ needs to relax. What kind of comment is "your no Usain Bolt". Of course he isn't, but that doesn't mean he can't be happy for winning a race. He bowed after the booing started. The people booing are pathetic little babies. It's a race he won fair and square. They're just mad because he got kick of the week and his coach is part of the second best running site on the web. Jealous.”
I agree with everything you said except that letsrun.com is the 2nd best running site. It's number 1. Just kidding flotrack. Comparing letsrun and flotrack is like comparing apples and oranges.
#5
Babies May 10, 2009 at 5:31pm
Everyone that thinks he needed to be DQ needs to relax. What kind of comment is "your no Usain Bolt". Of course he isn't, but that doesn't mean he can't be happy for winning a race. He bowed after the booing started. The people booing are pathetic little babies. It's a race he won fair and square. They're just mad because he got kick of the week and his coach is part of the second best running site on the web. Jealous.
#4
WhiteKenyan May 10, 2009 at 4:24pm
Wow from a guy that doesn't go to an IVY league school you guys are uptight thinking what he did merits a DQ. Your guy lost, get over it.
#3
Anonymous Coward May 10, 2009 at 3:34pm
I disagree with this call, it lacked class but not worthy of disqualification. The chanting that proceeded was equally if not more unsportsmanlike. The officials should maintain a standard and disqualify all of those chanting.
#2
Ian Ward May 10, 2009 at 3:28pm
It is unbelievable that this guy got DQ'ed. Many of us on the west coast are convinced that this laughably bad call by the officials is an elaborate practical joke. The officials who DQ'ed Jimmy have done a great disservice to Ivy League Track and Field and obliterated any chance of us ever being taken seriously as a fiercely competitive athletic conference.
No way that constitutes a DQ. I expect a challenge of some sort. 5 years of training your ass off day in and day out with a specific goal in mind, of COURSE he's going to be spontaneously happy at the finish line. I can't even get oxygen to my brain that close to the finish line much less make a decision on the moral implications of celebrating. Dartmouth shouldn't have boo'ed, and I understand the response. It's like Fleet waving to the crowd after the Brett Johnson incident. No DQ is even slightly necessary.
Jimmy Wyner Interview
“Wyner is the only person I have ever seen get a standing ovation for being DQed. People weren't just booing the sportmanship in this instance, they were boing Wyner the person. He is completely correct in the interview when he states that he is "hated by everyone." He's not hated because he's good, he's hated because hes an absolute ahole.”
“your an idiot”
“"Wyner's outstretched arms, his hands mockingly beckoning every other runner behind him and "daring" them to catch up to him, was the most obnoxious display of poor sportsmanship I have ever seen"
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http://www.mensracing.com/photos/bigeast02/be35.jpg
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The people who want to get this guy disqualified is why track is perceived to be such a boring sport by people outside of it.”
By this logic the NBA should also nullify Glen Davis' shot at the buzzer for the Celtics the other day since he taunted the crowd afterwards. This could never fly in any major sport. Period.
The people who want to get this guy disqualified is why track is perceived to be such a boring sport by people outside of it.
To everyone who wasn't there: Understand this. Don't take this out on Dartmouth. Take it out on the Ivy League. Just because Dartmouth was closest to the finish line when the booing started doesn't mean everyone should be hating on them. The announcers and Jimmy Wyner put unfair pressure on Dartmouth for something everyone participated in. It was also 7/8ths of the Ivy League that gave a standing ovation to the announcement that Wyner was disqualified.
Having watched the entire finish I can tell you this, the video captured nothing of his victory celebration. I perfectly agree that the video does not look like grounds for disqualification. But I think the majority of the people who saw Wyner's face as he came down the stretch, he was telling a much different story. To those who thought his celebration lacked taunting of the other competitors, it didn't. His arm gestures merely tell a fraction of the story, while his face told much more.
Make your opinions all you want. Just know that you don't have the whole story. Not even the flotrak guys in the press box.
http://twoangryrunners.com/?p=741&preview=true
If I finished first because the officials DQ the winner would you be proud of me?
If I grow up to be a garbage man would you be proud of me?
Take your class and get a life. Why did you and mom get a divorce?
I’m not going to give you anything for fathers’ day this year.
It was a good race. I didn't know who Wyner was before this but he ran a good race all the way. It was very petty to disqualify him but means nothing. He ran and he won. Now he can move on to better things.
http://lancertiming.com/results/winter06/hepsm.htm (1000m finals)
"Forget the bow after the race for a minute - Wyner's outstretched arms, his hands mockingly beckoning every other runner behind him and "daring" them to catch up to him, was the most obnoxious display of poor sportsmanship I have ever seen."
That's a gross misrepresentation of what happened.
...need i say anymore...
Jeff you sound like a real loser.
And like, I thought like, that Ivy League kids were like, supposed to like, sound intelligent and like, eloquent.
Wyner, good luck. I hope for the sport of track and field you come back.
“Everyone that thinks he needed to be DQ needs to relax. What kind of comment is "your no Usain Bolt". Of course he isn't, but that doesn't mean he can't be happy for winning a race. He bowed after the booing started. The people booing are pathetic little babies. It's a race he won fair and square. They're just mad because he got kick of the week and his coach is part of the second best running site on the web. Jealous.”