There are better trails in the area. If you have and propensity to knee or ankle injury this is not the place for you. Loose gravel and a rocky surface greet you as you run. Your knee is constantly being tweaked. I also find the inaccurate mile markings annoying. Most are close but some are quite a bit off. If you like hills I run the Wildwood trail from the Forestry Center to Pittock Mansion. The Springwater Corrider (Including the Bridge loop) is great and interesting.
Shawn Simon said: “Instead of the guy riding next to Kevin he could ride a few yards behind him.The idea is to show the trail and scenery right. ”
The shot definitely needs to be wider, but this was a good attempt. The content was excellent, but the presentation just needs to be tweaked to reduce motion sickness! haha
I like the idea of a series. This may be an idea for filming. Instead of the guy riding next to Kevin he could ride a few yards behind him.The idea is to show the trail and scenery right. Give Kevin a mike on the collar for commentary and mount the camera on the bike helmet of the guy trailing. The rolling will eliminate the bouncing for the most part. I'm not a film expert so I don't even know if this would work. Just a thought.
Look's like a nice place to run. I'm with the guy in hell on earth. Got a run in at around 2 today it was only a record for Phoenix 114 baby. Hey with a newborn you have to get it in when you can.
nice. i live in Beaverton, just west of PDX, and i do most of my long runs, about 10-13 miles, on Leif. i start at the germantown road entrance, so basically the end of the train. it's an incredible trail. good for long runs, hill workouts, and runs to just help get the junk out of the legs. PDX is right about the different options along the way, there are a few trails that lead from it that go to the river, one that goes to a cave, and you can even get to Sauvie's from one trail. Of course that route is very long.
On the subject of Portland being the place for American distance running right now, i would say he is right. I mean you have Salazar and Shumacher there coaching for the Oregon Project at the Nike World Campus with athletes like Amy Yoder-Begley, who is my xc coaches wife and i've trained with her before, Kara Goucher, Chris Solinsky, Matt Tegankamp, Evan Jager, Shalane Flanagan, Galen Rupp, Dathan Ritzenhein, Tim Nelson. Those are just some that here. But with the top 5k and 10k runners and two of the US's top marathoners too, I definitely say that Portland is the place for distance running.
The first 1/4 mile of Leif Erickson is paved. The rest is dirt and rock trail - 11 miles in one direction. But that's just Leif Erickson trail. It has a lot of single track options along the way. I've been told there are more than 100 miles worth of trail, including the 30-mile Wildwood Trail (which is where I do a lot of my running). Leif Erickson is popular because it's an easy trail to get to for those who live in NW Portland (it's the route that Selby takes by following Thurman out of the city).
I like the idea of visiting other great running spots around the country. Pre's Trail in Eugene, Riverside State Park in Spokane, Bonneville Trail in Salt Lake, etc, etc, etc.
Calgary, Alberta is a fantastic place to run and train. Tons of trails, parks, river pathways, and nice scenery to boot. Also add in the fact that the altitude gives an added training effect and you have an amazing place to run if you can handle the cold winter. Chinook winds from the Rockies give relief every few weeks from the cold so you never have to suffer through the cold for that long anyway. If you have never been to Calgary or ran here, I suggest you try it out at some point.
I read the comments first and was prepared for horrible. It wasn't bad at all...and I'm ususally pretty critical here of interview quality (not Selby tho).
However...the couple times the camera panned down (especially when Roitz runs off)...the surface is PAVED!!!???...and you're nominating this as a best place to run??? Am I missing something (and yes, I caught the mention that it was meant for housing). My shins tell me this isn't the best place to run.
I think constructive feedback is not only welcome, but great to have. Calling it 'horrible' or someone referring to their grandmother could do better isn't worth the energy it took to write those comments.
Really appreciate the video, especially since its free. Based on some of the comments below, it seems like constructive feedback is not welcome. That being said, I'm going to give it anyway.
Interesting video and nice idea, I just wish we had a better view of the trail and some explanation as to everything it offers, how to get there, etc. Maybe Flo Track should start a running travel guide and profile a local athlete's use of the location for their daily training.
thenerve said: “Sometimes I scratch my head reading these comments. Let me lay how this went down. Kevin Selby, a contributor to Flotrack since day 1, thought it might be interesting to drive up to Portland after Outdoor Nationals and run at this park. He also decided it might be neat to bring a camera. A guy who's put together workout Wednesdays with Shannon Rowbury, interviews with some of the biggest legends of the sport, and who did the entire Brutus Hamilton Invite with a team he assembled -- and now he's getting attacked for his filming ability on something short and simple. It really makes no sense. This is a prime example of looking a gift horse in the mouth. Give the man his due and stop nit picking on little nuances. Instead, take it for what it is, a quick video - unscripted - and unique, and either move on or take it in. Heck, do yourselves one better and go out and make your own video. Even if means giving your 82-year old grandmother a camera while you help her stand up in her walker. Knocking on the guy and this short video brings nothing to the table. ”
I totally disagree with you. I understand how great flotrack is, and everyone that is a part of it. What makes flotrack great is the feedback that they receive from fans like me and others. I gave them the true feedback that this video diserves. I also gave suggestions, and said that I liked the idea. Hell, I'd love to run in Forest Park. I'm stuck in the suburbs of Minneapolis running on sidewalks. I love this idea, dont get me wrong, but it was really bad filming. If flotrack wants to please people like me and others, and continue to get better like they have been for the past years, then they will find a way to revolutionize the way they are filming. I really hope they do, because I love everything flotrack does. Basically all I'm saying is that if I filmed something, I would want some true feedback so that if someone thought that what I created wasn't good I could then make changes to make that product better.
Andrew Garai said: “oh man nothing beats training at Humbolt State. Running on countless trails through the heart of the coastal red wood forest... its amazing.”
o ya, you went to thousand oaks highschool. you would know sean gildea then.
i've known him since like 1st grade lol. small world.
Andrew Garai said: “oh man nothing beats training at Humbolt State. Running on countless trails through the heart of the coastal red wood forest... its amazing.”
Do you go to Humboldt State? I'm actually looking to transfer there in a year and a half. It'd be the perfect running weather. I prob wont be on the track team there but I went and visited the place and it looks perfect for running!
Despite popular opinion I actually really enjoyed this video, it was real. Sure it may have gotten a little Blair Which Project on us there for a minute but I can appreciate that because he was holding the camera while running. I think this is a really awesome idea and a cool chance for someone who runs in hell on earth(phoenix, AZ) on a daily basis to get to see some awesome training spots from around that country. Plus that random Ritz sighting was awesome!
Sometimes I scratch my head reading these comments. Let me lay how this went down. Kevin Selby, a contributor to Flotrack since day 1, thought it might be interesting to drive up to Portland after Outdoor Nationals and run at this park. He also decided it might be neat to bring a camera. A guy who's put together workout Wednesdays with Shannon Rowbury, interviews with some of the biggest legends of the sport, and who did the entire Brutus Hamilton Invite with a team he assembled -- and now he's getting attacked for his filming ability on something short and simple. It really makes no sense. This is a prime example of looking a gift horse in the mouth. Give the man his due and stop nit picking on little nuances. Instead, take it for what it is, a quick video - unscripted - and unique, and either move on or take it in. Heck, do yourselves one better and go out and make your own video. Even if means giving your 82-year old grandmother a camera while you help her stand up in her walker. Knocking on the guy and this short video brings nothing to the table.
haha, nope i suck at running, not that that has anything to do with this. but i'm glad i got to see this vid even if it was a little fuzzy. i'm pretty sure if you tried to film while you were running it would suck balls too, but at least selby didn't puss out and not give us a good video to see.
I'm really sorry. I like the idea of this video and everything. I was excited to watch it. It was horrible. I'd really like the idea of a series like this. Best running places or w/e, but if that were to be pursued there would need to be an upgrade in the way the filming is taking place.
I am a big fan of Flotrack and all that you guys have done to help publicize the sport. I understand you don't have the money to produce beautiful, high-definition videos, but a lot of these (this one in particular) are just ridiculously unprofessional and truly pretty embarrassing. This looks like my 82 year-old grandmother was using the camera.
Let's not forget Mt. Tam State Park in Marin County. Countless miles of trails and fireroads, some of which having views of SF, the Pacific Ocean and the Golden Gate Bridge.
The Forest is a mile from my apartment. I get to train there every day baby!!! Thanks for showcasing it Kevin. Nice work. Nothin' beats the PDX.
-The Killer
You should recruit a local to tour the park with you, you barely showed anything of how great it really is or said anything about how long the trails are, etc. The best running is off of Leif anyway, maybe next time I guess?
Flotrack's Kevin Selby take a running tour through Forest Park in Portland, OR, one of the premiere training spots in the country. For More Info on Forest Park, click here. July 17, 2009
Forest Park - Portland
“Instead of the guy riding next to Kevin he could ride a few yards behind him.The idea is to show the trail and scenery right. ”
Look's like a nice place to run. I'm with the guy in hell on earth. Got a run in at around 2 today it was only a record for Phoenix 114 baby. Hey with a newborn you have to get it in when you can.
On the subject of Portland being the place for American distance running right now, i would say he is right. I mean you have Salazar and Shumacher there coaching for the Oregon Project at the Nike World Campus with athletes like Amy Yoder-Begley, who is my xc coaches wife and i've trained with her before, Kara Goucher, Chris Solinsky, Matt Tegankamp, Evan Jager, Shalane Flanagan, Galen Rupp, Dathan Ritzenhein, Tim Nelson. Those are just some that here. But with the top 5k and 10k runners and two of the US's top marathoners too, I definitely say that Portland is the place for distance running.
I like the idea of visiting other great running spots around the country. Pre's Trail in Eugene, Riverside State Park in Spokane, Bonneville Trail in Salt Lake, etc, etc, etc.
However...the couple times the camera panned down (especially when Roitz runs off)...the surface is PAVED!!!???...and you're nominating this as a best place to run??? Am I missing something (and yes, I caught the mention that it was meant for housing). My shins tell me this isn't the best place to run.
Interesting video and nice idea, I just wish we had a better view of the trail and some explanation as to everything it offers, how to get there, etc. Maybe Flo Track should start a running travel guide and profile a local athlete's use of the location for their daily training.
“Sometimes I scratch my head reading these comments. Let me lay how this went down. Kevin Selby, a contributor to Flotrack since day 1, thought it might be interesting to drive up to Portland after Outdoor Nationals and run at this park. He also decided it might be neat to bring a camera. A guy who's put together workout Wednesdays with Shannon Rowbury, interviews with some of the biggest legends of the sport, and who did the entire Brutus Hamilton Invite with a team he assembled -- and now he's getting attacked for his filming ability on something short and simple. It really makes no sense. This is a prime example of looking a gift horse in the mouth. Give the man his due and stop nit picking on little nuances. Instead, take it for what it is, a quick video - unscripted - and unique, and either move on or take it in. Heck, do yourselves one better and go out and make your own video. Even if means giving your 82-year old grandmother a camera while you help her stand up in her walker. Knocking on the guy and this short video brings nothing to the table. ”
“oh man nothing beats training at Humbolt State. Running on countless trails through the heart of the coastal red wood forest... its amazing.”
i've known him since like 1st grade lol. small world.
“oh man nothing beats training at Humbolt State. Running on countless trails through the heart of the coastal red wood forest... its amazing.”
-The Killer
are you good at filming while you run?