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Willowridge Got Randy Forest 400m(48.18)ran Sopre Year at State, Lavon Collins 300mHurdles(37.7) ran Junior Year at State, Hampton Hawkins 400m(48.31)ran Junior Year!!! Won Region 3 easy...Have a Good Shot To Win The 4x4 In 5A @ 2010 State Meet!!
I guess we would find out next week but we the only ones that gonna be runnin. come on down to 4a if yall think you can hang. the garbage got throwed out and L-TOWn is still runnin.
Are you sure about that L-Town?, Lancaster hasen't ran a 3:17 or lower all year and Desoto had and Duncanville real 4x4 got suspended did at Baylor. Who's the one thats garbage now?
Spring Westfield's Anchor Leg The True Freshman! I Would To Thank GOD For Me Goin To {STATE} Good Race Desoto And Conroe See Conroe And Etc At STATE JUNE 6Th "It's Goin Down At U Of Texas" Class Of 2012 Holla At Me!
Well said, everyone know Desoto and Duncanville would have gotten 1st and 2nd at State, with extrodinary runners to lead such as Desoto's Eric Car/D'Odrick Sykes and Duncanville's Kennedy Daughtery/Isaac Ogunlade. I look forward to seeing this boys compete in Summer Track, Lancaster Lightning and Junior Speedsters and they can hopefully get 1st and 2nd at the 2009 Junior Olympics. Good Luck to Allen/Lewisville-Conroe/Spring Westfiled.
It looks like Allen has to represent the Dallas Metroplex at the State Meet in the 4x400 meter relay in which they won the race at Region 1 in Lubbock. Congratulations Allen. Desoto got nipped by Spring Westfield and placed 3rd at Region 2 in Waco. Desoto's anchor D'Odrick Sykes was hurt and he did not run. They put the alternate on the anchor leg and he gave a valiant effort. However, with all three teams coming toward the finish line together, he tried to pass Spring Westfield on the inside. They bumped and they both went down. If Desoto would have beaten Spring Westfield, they probably would have DQ'ed them anyway because I know Westfield would have protested. It was an exciting race with the lead constantly changing. Give props to Desoto's 2nd leg Eric Caro for coming from 3rd and 10 meters back to give Desoto the lead by at least 5 meters. Looking back, maybe Desoto should have put it all on Eric Caro to get them to the State Meet and put HIM on the anchor leg. He looked like he was finally healthy. What a year. Eric Caro is finally healthy or close to being 100% healthy and the anchor leg goes down. With Desoto still almost winning the race without their Anchor leg, I still and will always believe that Desoto and Duncanville would have been First and Second at the State Meet. Anyway, congratulations to Conroe and Spring Westfield. If you the love the 4x400 meter relay as much as I do, you would have enjoyed the race if you were not there. The 4x400 meter relay is still going to be an exciting race at the State Meet without Duncanville and Desoto.
It is a shame that the Dallas area is not going to be as great as it was presumably going to be this seaon. Records for Texas could've been broken this year, such as there 4x4 relay and their exciting 4x2 relay. A team called Duncanville was said to bring excitment for Texas this year and win there State Division, with points and perhaps winners of medals in the 110 Hurdles, with runner (Issac Ogulanda) Open 400 with runner (Kennedy Daughtery) Open 100 with runner (Josh Harris and Open 200 as well as Chayse Joubert) and there 4x2 and 4x4 relay with leaders Josh Harris, Kennedy Daughtery, Issac Ogulanda and Chayse Joubert. It is a dissapointment, It is said that Kennedy Daughtery has went 46 Open already and Issac Ogulanda 47 Open, and Josh Harris 21 Low open, sounds like a great 4x2 and 4x4 time and It was also said they once held Texas's fastest time in thos 2 relays earlier in their season, by running 1:26/3:17 ONLY ONE TIME (In cold and windy weather, in Texas What??, thats Amazing!) wonder what they would have been running now, when teams have ran week after week across the nation and still havent ran those times (especially in nice weather unlike Duncanville) when they ran those times only once in "BAD WEATHER". Too bad for there suspensions, I hope they learn from it and are competing this Summer Under U.S.A or A.A.U or both, so we can see what Texas really has.
This is Coach Dorris First Year Coaching as a Head Coach. He came in all wrong. Very demanding. Yes the coach from last year was a little nice and also had the kids respect. The Parents and athletes were willing to give the new coach a chance, but "Blow that Up". destroying trophies and history boards in front of the athlete`s. kicking kids off the track team when sick or going to tudoring.it`s so much more then the Seven duncanville boys. first it was the 3 girls that took him to court before the boys got in trouble. duncanville need a need coach. If you are a coach please apply at Duncanville Please!!!!....
There is quite a lot of discussion on hear from what I see, regarding what was said to be the Greatest Track Team in Texas history after 2009, but it Looks like Allen High School win Region 1, in the 4x100, 4x200 and 4x400 relays, and with Wylie and North Crowley, Elpaso Montwood, South Lake Carrol, and several other will be teams will be playing a factor. Duncanville is completely out of the picture with no State Vying runners, and there Head Coach (Derek Dorris) does not know how to coach track, point blank and has come into Duncanville with aspirations to just sit back and watch things go his way. But "NO BUDDY", "EGO" kills the Mighty and Destroys the PROUD.
You said it yourself lol, You do Speak "B.S". Wow, you dont know anything about Talent, because these kids were not as good as they are now, you know why they are now, because of hard work ethics, not TALENT. Besides this is about the kids, you always have something personal against Summer Track coaches, when they never say anything to you. Be the bigger man and drop your balls if you have any. And move on. All that was posted was how good they did at Baylor, then you criticize Jamison, then that just edges me on to comment against you. Wow, grow up for once.
Mr. Sbs. Do you have a child that was personally affected? How are you related to this situation with these athletes? Do you know the story from A to Z? I`m not talking about what somebody have told you or what people have said. because if you don`t know the full story. then your comment don`t mean anything? D`ville still have kids going to State. and 6 of them or not even 60%. These young men have moved on they understand what they have done, and it don`t have anything to do with Summer track clubs. Check your sources and come back with the truth. Cause rigth know the truth is not in you.
Why don't we just give them the medals?
We know the all of the guys name now
since this post was made.
We could just let the athletes/teams compete
for the silver and bronze medal in the 4x2
and 4x4. This would make the state meet shorter
and more efficient...Just an idea.
Some of these things are going the way of AAU basketball.
I have a theory. I bet I could hand pick 4 guys who run 49-50, meet them at the track each week, bring my dog (her name is Kali), tie her to the goalpost, and let her bark at them while they ran some random workout that they saw the football players doing earlier that day.
And guess what...Kali would coach them to a 3:16....Maybe even a 3:15. Point? Talent matters...And it is almost everything when it comes to summer track clubs. Try working with a random population and then come brag about it on the internet.
What it sounds like is that someone (or some people) thought they were bigger than the Duncanville program and it caught up with them. The coach decided to put ethics above winning. I have a tendency to feel bad for the kids because my gut tells me that they were being influenced by a club coach who had a different plan in mind during the HIGH SCHOOL SEASON.
Heck...I'll offer another little bit of unsolicited advice. Go get a calendar. Make sure it is one of the ones with an annual view of the months. Get a pen. Put it on the month of January and draw a line all the way until mid-May. Then write "UIL/High School season" somewhere on the middle of the line. Then draw another line from June to July and write "Summer track - Four races, two of which nobody will be at to see."
TheTruthshallwin
You are a moron. I coach kids on the side and I can assure you all you have done by condoning these kids not deal with the situation and the system is that now they think they are beyond the system. Much like saying I have a drivers license so I am going to drive 100 mph even though the speed limit is 65.
If these kids want out let them run outside but quit bellyaching about the coach losing the opportunity to be state champ.
Those kids names will never be on any historic record unless there is a historic record for dumbasses who can run fast who are led by a bigger dumbass.
The Truth, I know you are upset, but stay humble. I did see the the 3 boys that was suspended and the one that was kicked off the team. run the 4x4 relay at the Micheal Johnson meet. they did very well. There were other adults and parents that were happy for them as well. it was good to see them run after 6 weeks. they have so much room for improvement. I pray that god watches over them, keep them out of harms way. to give them strength when satan uses other people to be ugly for no reason at all. amen
I hate to brag but I am so proud of my boys, I just want to bring it up again so "I Speak English" can read. 4 of the suspended athletes competed this past saturday at the Micheal Johnson Classic and posted a 3:15:80 beating several university relays and with Kennedy going 47, Akeem going 49 and Reggie going 50 point. Kennedy goes 47 open so thats a a 46 split, Keem goes 49 open thats a 48 split, Reggie goes 49 open so thats a 48 split so that tells you thats 4 seconds right there and not telling what Issac will do when he poppd off 48 and after him not running in close to a month and the team matter of fact as well. So thats about 5 seconds to drop which is possible or maybe even more. So I give them a 3:10 this summer, Eat that Derek, I hope you have bad dreams at night and regret ever letting the kids go when you could have even yourself done great things. And Keep Coach Henderson and Loves name out your mouth when ever you talk to Ozee again.
Jamison Green is perhaps along with maybe Deondre Bonner, Zavian Handy, Demarcus Smith, Jacore Turner and maybe Josh Harris if he is healthy enough, the only guys left who can maybe help Duncanville out in some sort of way. So instead of bringing an athlete down, you should encourage and support but no never in your vocabulary is that involved "I Speak English". "Hint Hint "Nudge Nudge", If you never ran in sorry "white boy meets", no offense to the white race just sarcasim, but lf you never ran in those sorry meets and against tougher competion instead such as Lancaster and Desoto, Rowlett, Skyline meet after meet like what Coach Love and Henderson did, then HELL no one would have ever pulled up when the heat and the time came to really push themselves when they know that the tougher meets they faced now is a little bit harder this time. Take notes Derek Dorris instead of going to sorry university track programs and sorry university conferences/track camps such as for example U.T Arlington. And at least go with the flow of things instead of being so unorganized to last years program when coach Love had everything orgainized and the team (EVERYONE) was on in accord with each other including the coaches and even Beale Tolbert.
Just look for Duncanville first leg on 4by1 thats all i gotta say and at regionals they betta not put me on 4by2 and im 100 percent b/c if they do imma show them why they should of had had me on there the whole time
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I have been hearing about Coach Dorris making comments to different D`ville runners not to run for the Junior Speedster, That if they do run for them in the summer. They will not be able to run for D`ville next year.It`s awful for a coach to go so low to tell kids that.What a kid or kids do with there summer is no business of yours.You can`t control what they do, these kids have parents that tells them what they can do or not. it really will be a problem if these kids do run summer track for J.S or any other team.and can`t run for D`ville without doing anything wrong. What will be Coach Dorris reason then. In all of D`ville history this has never happen.
Everybody in the State of Texas knows Duncanville's 4x400 Relay would have won Texas Relays and perhaps the State Championship, but come on they are not going to run High School Track anymore and you know that. So leave this topic alone and get a life and move on, God says Conroe's 4x400 Relay was going to win Texas Relays and he will decide who is going to win it at State. Move on and get off Duncanville's as yall call it "JOCK STRAP"
Wow, from what I heard of the Junior Speedsters performances on the mile relay at Baylor was outstanding. Im am proud of you guys and keep up the good work. And for any unbelievers out there who dont believe the Junior Speedsters went 3:15:80 then here are the splits. Isaac Ogunlade-48.3 on 1st, Kennedy Daughtery 47.2 on 2nd, Akeem Banks 49.65 on 3rd, Reggie Reed 50.3 on 4th. So as you and I see, there is still a whole lot of ground of improvement.
D`ville Boys keep yall head up. I was at the meet in Waco, and heard the colleges talking about you guys and it was all good. Things happen for reason. You guys stay humble no matter what and "Keep God in your life." Be Blessed Amen.
Look like Duncaville aka J Speedsters went to a college meet and rolled sum college teams!! Hmmmm they would of won texas relays..if it wasnt for the coach..Yall go my Team Speedsters.
i hope the new Dville do somthin and go to state without the College Beast
There are brighter days ahead, I refused to let Kevin Ozee and Coach Dorris to bring me down. all of this will come to pass. have faith in god. God can and will make things happen. The 7 young men that were suspened and plus the young man that duncanville kicked of school , because his mother stood up to them.But ,all is well. they are running this weekend. I wish the 8 boys well. remember God is good.
Wow! #1 4x4 Fan, I am just stunned and astonished how you bring the truth out from its cover and make things clear. I am greatful for people like you and your support and encouragement of others especially when you stated that you are a Desoto Track Fan yourself. Derek and Ozee will never man up to there mistakes, and Derek will never own up that he had a bad mindset when first coming to Duncanville and that he completely destroyed a Dynasty. The Lord will prevail through all of this and the Summer time is when it is going to get hot, with teams such as Lancaster Lightning with (Eric Caro&D;'odrick Sykes) HallMark, Desoto Roadrunners and Junior Speedsters with (Kennedy Daughtery, Isaac Ogunlade&Reggie;Reed. So all these runners will have a chance to redeem themselves this summer.
'The Truth', I agree with you. I know that there are some that blame the 7 Duncanville athletes for running in the Lancaster Meet. But the bottom line is that Coach Dorris did not have to suspend them for 60 days. One thing that everyone seems to have forgotten is that the suspensions were originally through District. But when the parents and Duncanville supporters went to UIL and the Duncanville administration to get the suspensions removed or reduced, Coach Dorris and Kevin Ozee made it 60 days. That was vindictive and a blatant act of retaliation. This proved to me that this was always a power struggle and about ego. If not, then why was the original suspensions increased later. I have been in management for over 20 years. It is very unprofessional to increase the discipline of someone because they went over your head in disagreement of the discipline. Furthermore, most companies will not allow that. In fact, that is following the chain of command and that is a persons right if they truly believe that they were wrongfully treated. Yet Ozee and Dorris found it necessary to increase the suspensions afterwards. Unbelievable. I am saddened because 2009 was supposed to be a special year. But with injuries to key athletes; Rynell Parsons, Shaquille Tubman, Eric Caro, Josh Harris, with the bad weather, and with everything that has happened at Duncanville, this has been a very disappointing year to me.
Kicking off the 7 track athletes from Duncanville High School is like Phil Jackson kicking off Kobe Bryant, Common Sense Derrek, you just let go the only chance you will ever have of winning a state championship or to get your stats or track coach profile up. So therefore I award Zero points. Good Luck at Regionals, I expect the only winner to come out, Brigetta Barret in the high jump, other than that, look forward to getting embarassed when they call out 2008 defending 4x4 champions at Lubbock and then the team you have now AT LEAST will go 3:21yet alone if that.
Well it looks like Duncanville's 4x400 relay wont be doing anything special this year when it comes to do the State Championship. How do you break the school record of 3:16 and post a record of 3:15:89 since 1992 and then a disaster like this happens? Oh well I guess all the talk is over about Duncanville Boys Track and Field, and 2008 with Sedrick Love's regieme was perhaps the last year of this once Power House Track and Field Dynasty.
Ridiculous!!!! To say that those boys have all the blame for what happened is ignorant!!!!! The D-Ville track teams downfall is a result of bad leadership period dot. To go from having so many make it to regionals and even advance onto state to this is a shame. ExPantherette you should be ashamed of yourself. And since you are an Ex Pantherette you don't know all of the facts so check yourself before you start talking!!!!!!!!
O.k Ex, That subject is over, We have all moved on. No need of you to keep downing them. They do know.You have not been perfect yourself, Stop pointing the finger and move on. God is the only judge. Amen
WOW.....This is so difficult to read and understand. Try spell and grammar check....if you want people to listen to your opinions...then TRY to sound intelligent!! Even the "adults" on this blog have horrible grammar......
Duncanville athletes broke the rules, they were warned, they were punished....enough said. Those boys, running as unattached competitors, were the ones causing the problems.....They knew what they were doing was wrong....they were told ahead of time....
This is the way young men should be encouraging and supportive of each other even though you are opponents. At the end of the day you must realize that your representing the Lord and each have a mindset and goal for your lifes to use your talents and make use of your lifes. I really like to see how the supporting cast of Lancaster, Desoto and coaches and parents have been supporting D'ville through there tough situation and I bet you Kennedy, Aaron, Issac, Reggie, Jacolby, Jonathan and Gabe really appreciate the love and support and wish you guys even though you are there opponents the best. I look forward to seeing Lancaster and Desoto at State this year to represent each of there Classes as they win the State Championship and even though some may believe this was Duncanville's year to do great things, you have to let it go now and move on it is what is and I really feel for them and weep as an adult caring for a child but life has turmoils and upsets and you have to live through and redeem yourself just like some athletes at Duncanville are talking about the way they are going to redeem them selves in Summer Track. May the Lord bless you all and keep you injury free and safe because this has been a crazy year but make the Lord proud as I am proud of the way you are begining to be nice to each other for once "JK", Take Care and Keep your heads up.
Already J.B and Deomontre you did your thing at Texas Relays no doubt about that and you and tyler and Caro and D'odrick from Desoto but when i went 48.00 on 1st leg my right ankle was sprained and I had it taped up so that could you something as well and plus the wind was against me. So you can talk down on me all you want i really dont care, I just wanna give you some facts before you get to excited but good luck to all as yall get ready for District, Regionals, and State.
When Coach Reeves and Coach Love was at Duncanville WE WERE BEAST WITH NO PROBLEMS but now its sad to see my school D ville not doin nothing. Now our records is down and gone . No history!! how they gone hire your non coaching ass from Red oak: A school thats not 5A and is not good.
Well i no my Brother Akeem and all my Friends (whole duncanville track team) is still goin to get a full schoolarship.
LANCASTER - DESOTO and Cedar hill girls (DO YALL THING FOR DUNCANVILLE AND I)
Demontre Hurst ran great at the Texas Relays. I wish the 2nd leg of Desoto would have been 100% to see what he would have ran if he was healthy. He ran down Demontre Hurst on 2nd leg at the TSU Relays. Still, you got to give Demontre his props. He stepped up his game. Maybe what happened at the TSU Relays motivated him.
There is alot of heat flyin around, how bout everybody settle it on the track and leave the talking to the fans...we'll see yall at state D'ville and Conroe
Lancaster doesn't recruit we get good runners because they decide to come to our school since we actually have a team and Coach that's worth something Mr. Desoto and their fake 1:24. Lmao@You!
No Demontre Hurst from Lancaster who ran it in the prelims is now the best 1st leg in Texas, going 47.01 out the blocks, then #2 Isaac Ogunladde from Duncanville who went 48.00 or 48.1 in the cold, then #3Conroe's 1st leg who went 48.1 in warm weather, then #4Tyler Stephenson from Lancaster who ran in the Finals who went about 48.1-48.2 in warm weather, So Get your Facts right its Demontre Hurst Baby and it was said he split 46 on the Sprint Medley, Who, so tell Isaac to step in his ring so they settle it Ya Digg!
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I like to congratulate Conroe on that impressive victory, and Lancaster, Desoto and Katy Cinco Ranch for there performances, and Tyler for Lancaster and that Conroe 1st leg put on a show and Demontre for Lancaster in the prelims on 1st leg, I wish was there as well since I run 1st leg myself and my 4x4 teammates. We havent got to run in a while, the last time we ran was a month ago when we went 3:17:90 yes like people are saying it was ran in the cold and against wind but we were and never will be about COULDVE, WOULDVE OR SHOULDVE because we knew we had the potential to do something great this year and everyone knew that including the Channel 8 News. So whoever is talking down on us and the people who got suspended need to shut there trap because your making seem like bad people when were not, we just wanted to run. But if we never have a chance to run school track again, since this some of our Senior years, will just redeem our selves in summer track, Junior Speedsters Track Club. But again good luck to all and I hope Eric and D'odrick can get better and rodney, so L-Town and Desoto can put on a show both in there Divisions and represent North Texas at State.
You got to give alot of credit to Desotos 2nd leg in the finals at T-Relays. For a minute i thought he was about pull up because of the way he was limping when he got the stick. If it was me i wouldve stopped. But he showed alot of heart and fought through it. Good Job Soldier
I was at Texas Relays and the 4x4 was a good race fo sho. Did ya'll see the white boys kicking a** lol. they got second behind Conroe. Wow. And i forgot the name of that team. But i was rooting for Desoto because of their performance in the prelims. And yea you right "Sad Case" Desotos 2nd leg did not look as good in the finals as he did in the prelims. Because he does most of the damage for their team to give the league. I seen him at TSU fighting off head to head with Lancaster's second Leg. They had the Crowd going wild. But it wasnt necessarily the same at Texas Relays. Lancasters first leg rolled
MAANNNNN Conroe shocked the world with that 4x4 win in the finals at T-Relays with a 3:15. They came out the gate blasting. See thats how i like it. They keep it low key. They not all on Flo Track talking noise about Desoto, Duncanville or Lancaster. They show up and embarras people. Im on their ban waggon now. LETS GO CONROE.
This year couldve been a great year. All the talk was about what Desoto and Duncanvile seems like it was going to make this year a great one. But due to all the situations with kids at Duncaville (with you know who) and with kids like Eric Caro and Adrain Wight i believe are still hurt or not 100% at the Desoto really messed up the metroplex for the 4x4. The weather on saturdays didnt really make it any better. Good meets being on the same day hurt alot also. I really wish everything worked out the way everything planned. Im really sadden for D-Ville because Desotos situation not as bad. Not even close.Desoto still have a chnace of winning state since they ran 3:16 in the prelims at Texas Relays with their 2nd leg still not a 100%. He didn look so good in the finals. Hope he gets better
No if Duncaville mouths were feet....they'll b Olympic champs...thats why i wish all that didnt happen with them because now no one will know what really wouldve happen....all it'll be is Duncanville SHOULDVE, WOULDVE, COULDVE....but they not so it should just be over and done with
Lol your joking right?, Lancaster went 3:19 in warm conditions and 1:27 in warm conditions, Duncanville went 1:26:86 in cold conditions and AGAINST THE WIND and 3:17:90 in cold conditions AGAINST THE WIND, There 1st leg Isaac, went 48 FLAT in the 30 degree weather at the Duncanville meet close to a 47.9 and would have handed off the stick 1st at Texas Relays, while Kennedy there last leg went 46.9 at the Lancaster meet in the Open 4, thats a 45 split right there. While there 2nd leg Akeem and 3rd leg Jamison are going 50 points, without Reggie Reed due to the fact that he transfered and came back and does not live in the district so he cant run on varsity and the fact they HAVENT RAN IN A MONTH. They went these times in the cold, yes the wind was against them. Lancaster went 3:19/1:27 in WARM WEATHER and have ran every track meet before T-Relays, Duncanville'S 4X4 and 4x2 with the regular people have NOT. JV Runners got moved up because of the suspensions, trust me If Duncanville's 4x2 with Josh Harris at 1st, Isaac Ogunlade at 2nd, Whoever since Reggie Reed cant run at 3rd and Kennedy Daughtery at 4th thats the national record of 1:22 high-1:23 low, 19.8, 20.8, 20.8, 19.9, and there 4x4 Isaac Ogunlade at 1st, Akeem Banks at 2nd, Gabe Castillo, Marcus Smith, or Jamison Green at 3rd, and Kennedy Daughtery at 4th, thats a 47.5, 49.5, 49.7, 45.9= 3:10 high- 3:11 low, and this is real talk no exaggeration, but if they never have a chance to run school track, look out for there 4x1 Junior Speedsters, 39.8 Whoever at 1st, Kennedy Daughtery at 2nd, Reggie Reed at 3rd, Isaac Ogunlade at 4th and there 4x4= 3:06 low, Reggie Reed at 1st 47 pop off, Isaac Ogunlade at 2nd low 46 Split, Kourtney Payne at 3rd low 47 split, Kennedy Daughtery at 4th High 45 Split or lower. Trust me this is possible of happening this year but good luck to all as you pre-pare for District, Regionals and The Big Show
Duncanville's 4x4 was surely missed at Texas relays, I believe it would have been a show, for the past 2 years now we havent seen the excitment down here at T-Relays without Duncanville's 4x1, 4x2 and now there up and coming 4x4, where are they I havent heard of them run anywhere in a monthe except different people who have gone 3:30s, did they fail or are they hurt or something, because it would have been a show on 1st and 4th leg for Conroe vs Duncanville.
Congratulations Conroe on that 3:15, top 5 4x4 teams in the state thus far #1 Conroe 3:15:83, #2 Katy Cinco Ranch 3:16:40, #3 Desoto 3:16:78, #4 Duncanville 3:17:90, #5 Spring Westfield 3:18:00, Duncanville's 4x4 was the only team not present at Texas Relays and havent ran the 4x4 relay together in a month.
Word just got out, Desoto is now the #14x4 relay in the State of Texas running a 3:16:78 in the prelims of Texas Relays, lets see if they go for 3:15 tomorrow, tough luck Duncanville but I do give your props for going 3:17:90 in cold and windy weather and without Reggie Reed on there, man would it have been a battle.
Lets see if any team in Texas can beat Duncanvilles 3:17:90 at the Texas relays, and if not i sware i would quit my own job if Duncanville's 4x4 relay isnt reinstated. Its almost been like a month now since they have ran, how do you not run for 4 weeks and still hold the states top time and you ran in cooler condtions such as meets as TCU AND TSU man thats crazy.
Ive been a fan for Duncanville track since 99', i am just shocked that these things have happened. I though Coach Dorris was the best coach in the state after the Rockwall yellow-jacket invite, untill this. What in the world, this has never in Duncanville track and field history happened before, something is just not right.
How do you know what Coach Dorris thinks If your not him?, Now your trying to say if anyone has something to say to him call him up at DHS, the same should go with you towards Coach Anthony, if you have something to say call him up! So dont play that game buddy and trying to escape from your previous comment about "BLACK PEOPLE" you said what you said and its final.
You guys are crazy if you think you are actually talking to Coach Dorris. He could care less about this crap talking on this website. If you would like to actually talk to him call him at DHS. This has turned into a soap opera page.
Why worry about where people live how about coaching what little team you have left Mr. Dorris. In order to make a name for yourself at DHS you need to have a great team oh my bad you suspending them. Looks like your first year at DHS was a bust God don't like ugly. Just let it go and move on with your life and leave the kids alone. At least let them have fun the rest of thier senior years
Wow did that really come out of his mout? I totally agree with the other aspects Derek, even though some are not totally true why did kids ignored that you pulled them out a meet but to say "Black People" and we are disgracing Barrack Obama. That is not cool, you need to rephrase that and take back what you said about most "Black people" being locked up.
Well Coach Dorris (who you claimed to be i`ll play alone) Look how you introduce yourself to the kids. It was not a great intro. This has nothing to do with the club coaches.So get that out of your head. your coaching style is unquestionable. 3 girls and 7 boys and the rest of your team had no respect for you. you did that. nobody else. When coach love was there. There was no problems like this. No you ruined the track program. know you are showing your true colors by saying "You Black " and Then you bringing up Obama in the picture. OOOh now you are really looking good. when you do go to texas relays don`t be surpised with all the boos and the stirring and pointing. all they see is a Want to be Coach that took away 3 girls and 7 boys chances away and not to mention the trophy`s you destroyed and other athletes that`s having problems that everybody else don`t know about. I guess you are going to blamed that on the club coaches too uhh. no you look crazy in what you just said no help needed. No one cares about you being fed up. But i tell you what, you and Duncanville will never be looked at the same. it`s not all your fault the A.D hired you.
I am fed up with all these antics and calling me out. I have what teenagers call "Beef" with you club coaches and you have ruined Duncanville's Track program if you dont know it. Just except the fact that you teach your Summer Track Kids to disrespect authority and the will of who is in charge. Those are not good morals there Coach Anthony to teach Kids and all these lies that have been posted on here are completly false. I have come to a personal understanding that this is a race game being played here by you "Black People" and I see why your the main race that always has something to complain about and are usually the ones who are locked up because you always want it your way, you cant get everything in life you want. When you want to brag about "Barrack Obama", you your self have to have the manner and respect he has. The more you break rules and complain about breaking rules the more you are inferior to the "White Man" and the more ignorant you look and how do you expect to raise the next generation of young men when you induldge in there disrespect for Authority. It is a shame and God doesent use religion to answer Prayers. Now this is the truth and End of Discussion!
I support the Duncanville Athletes and wish they can back and put on a show for Texas on that mile relay. They should though be punished for what they did but not to an extreme like this. That says something is wrong with there overseers' and the relationship between he or she and there athletes for the 60 Day Suspension to be assigned. I just could not believe when I head that the whole entire Duncanville Boys Mile Relay was suspended for the season. Looks like the seats at State wont be sold out this year unless a miracle can happen and they return and restore any hatred or non relationship with there Head Coach. I am a believer in Christ and I say to anyone on hear who wants to help the athletes, that anything is possible with Jesus and pray and ask God for his forgiveness and Mercy and for help in this present circumstance and Faith that all things will work out for those who trust in him.
HELLO BOGUS TO INFORM YOU I WAS NOT GOIN TO RUN ON THE 4X2 AT FIRST HE WAS JUST GOIN TO RUN THE OPEN 200 AND GET HIS TIME SINCE NONE OF THE SORRY ASS DUNCANVILLE COACHS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOIN AND WANT TO PUT HIM ON JV FOR THE WHOLE YEAR .... YOUR TEAM THAT HAS NO RESPECT FOR YOUR NO COACHIN ASS IS THE ONE THAT WANTED HIM TO RUN ON THEIR 4X2 AND HE DOES LIVE IN THE DISTRICT ..... YOU ACTIN LIKE YOU MADE THE ATHLETES AT DUNCANVILLE ALL THE FAST RUNNERS YOU HAD RUN SUMMER TRACK DUMB ASS LOL LOOK AT YOU NOW YOU HAVE 1 RUNNER.. IT AIN REGGIE REEDS FAULT ITS YO DUMB ASS FAULT FOR PULLIN YOUR TEAM OUT THERE 1ST AND ONLY BIG TRACK MEET ALL YEAR... FAST PEOPLE WANT TO RACE OTHER FAST PEOPLE THIS IS NOT RED OAK BUDDY DUNCANVILLE LIKES COMPETITON AND THE SUMMER TRACK DID NOT TELL THEM TO RUN THEY RAN ON THEIR OWN DUMB ASS SO STOP SAYING THAT ... REMEMBER YO DUMB ASS WAS NOT THERE.. DUMMY
You dont s.h.i.t Coach Dorris and the coach of the Junior Speedsers is not giving anyone advice or has any ourstanding warrents. Your just mad because your reputation is getting ruined and because of what people say about you on here which is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. So stop acting like a child and putting the blame on club coaches when they didnt give advice or tell anyone of the athletes to run, they decided on there selves to run. Now your saying its because of Reggie it was a 60 Day Suspension but then you say its because Ozee wanted to prevent a 3 year suspension for the Sopres and Juniors. Your just changing your words and flip floping and are just mad because this situation has become and extremely big deal and bringing shame and embarassment to you and your track program. Your days are numbered Derek Dorris and the club coach and wife you are referring to are good people and care for the kids and are just fighting for there futures and trying to bring justice to all of this and let the whole world know the fraud you are. So you Good Bye and if you want to take it to another level like kicking the athletes out the District and damaging there futures more im right with ya. One more thing Derek, Coach Anthony who you are always referring too and assulting, does not have time like i said before to play childish games and talk on flotrack. If you have something to say say it in the man's face or on the phone dont be SCARED. I see how you let his son run when he told off on the phone, so dont play this game because he and anybody else can play it right back.
Here's the irony of the story:
Reggie Reed= Not ELIGLIBLE to run varsity due to UIL residency rules but did. By him running at Lancaster, he disqualified the entire relay team's eligibility for the rest of the year. If any of them run in district in any event, they disqualify the school! That's the reason for 60 days. Thank You Reggie!
Several of the kids involved in this do not even live in Duncanville ISD. Guess what's coming next? Oh yes, they brought this upon themselves by making this a "high profile case" and going to the media. Do you think the Dallas Morning News reporters are stupid?
This so called club coach has outstanding warrants on his record. He and his wife are the ones stirring up everthing, not the kids' parents.
Reggie's total disregard for the UIL rule should be expected because the club coach giving him advice does not know the rule and does not have to abide by them.
ADVICE: Get off this board. Stop trashing Duncanville HS and enroll your kid where you live. Learn the rules. You have done enough damage to Duncanville HS. Good bye.
Yes they bragged about this being the greatest year ever but because of there talent and there hard work and not your coaching buddy. Everyone knows your lying about UIL and are only mad because people and the kids are talking bad about you when you know all of this is true. So you have the real "EGO problem" just except that you have ruined one of the greatest track teams ever with suspending 4 of the 7 Kennedy Daughtery, Issac Ogunlade, Gabriel Castillo and Reggie Reed, Shame on you and as for the girls they could have been a dominate force but no you want to stop them from running indoor when other coaches encourage them to run indoor and you let your own athletes participate in indoor at red oak but when you come to Duncanville you want to change everything and now look what you have done. You should have just left everything alone and stop trying to put your stamp on everything and you need to realize your at fault as well and trust me I highly doubt you will be back next year at DHS and if for some reason you are, just prepare to be the Asst. Cross Country coach because you sure wont have no elite Track team like you have right in front of you MORON and who would keep cool and want to give you time your just lying about that, you never cared about the kids in the first place. And is Commense Sense supposed to be an insult or something, i think not. You have pretty much lost your respect across the State of Texas for pulling out of a meet and saying it was cancelled and you were the only coach to do such a thing, especially when weather conditions were colder at the Eddie Payne relays "lol" your such a fake Derek Dorris and prepare for your girl's 4x1 and 4x2 relays to get demolished and embarrased at Texas Relays.
Maybe the kids would have be reinstated had they kept their cool and the coach been given time to contact the UIL regarding any possible offense. It's obvious from the mouthing off at the DHS coaches by the runners, parents, and club "coaches" that there is no longer any place for these runners on the DHS team. You have burned your bridges...they can no longer be crossed.
It's funny that ya'll talk about how awful the DHS coaches are and complain about their rules against indoor track and decisions they've made for the team, but at the same time you brag about how this was starting to be the greatest year ever at DHS. Just maybe, if you had followed your coaches advice, it could have been the best year ever. Maybe the things he made you do and not do were actually working!
It's obvious that the athletes, parents, and club "recruiters" are the ones with the real ego problems. Your coach asked you not to run for health reasons but YOUR ego couldn't take that. A coach's job is to make decisions, not to always make everyone happy.
I hope if any of you get the opportunity to run in college, that you respect your coach whether you agree with him or not. You will not go far on your own.
Please allow me to interject a few items here..
1) when the coach informed the team that were not running, the uniforms were turned in at that time. The kids ran in their own shorts and t-shirts;
2) the kids initially had no intentions of running. Some of the ones that were suspended actually went home, again under the "assumption" that the entire meet was cancelled because that was what the coach indicated to them. A few of them received text messages from their competitors (i.e. Lancaster and Desoto) asking them where were they and why wasn't they running;
3) the kids were never told not to run. Why would he have to tell them not to run if you indicated that the meet was cancelled? Josh didn't run because his father told him not to run; but he was the only one who Josh's father talked to and Josh did not tell anyone else his fathers advice because he was so mad that he could not run he had left the stadium for a moment and was no where to be found.
4) none of the kids times were recorded. Just go the Lancaster Track meet to see the results;
5) I don't have an ego about this issue. I don't coach any of the kids during the summer; I do know them, though. My whole issue isn't the suspension of a broken rule. IF a rule was broken, does it have to be 60 days? or is it because the kids ran indoor track and all coach dorris and tolbert are trying to do is get back at them? School will be out in approximately 40+ days. Hell, make 'em run bleachers until they see straight but to deny them an opportunity to compete and risk a future isn't cool.
Damn, everybody talkin about the dville situation even down here in austin and on my college track team, damn i feel sorrow for the seniors and there 4x4 i mean they havent ran in 4 weeks and they still have the fastest time in the state and they went 3:17 in the cold and windy weather while teams cant even at least go 3:17 at the tsu relays where weather was warmer and usually teams go 3:16 at that meet. I wonder what they would have gone if they ran the last 4 weeks? How can you have so much talent and give it up like that because you want to change everything and make your own name. That's not right, i heard there coach from last year was way better than the new one, we went 3:12 with a great coach who cared for us and let us run indoor and club to prepare our selves for the season and she was the coach of the year that year, damn keep yall heads up Dville and I hope yall can come back because maybe never will anybody in my opinion have so much talent and break so many records like yall could have for 2009 and make a stamp for maybe the next 5-10 years, Ive watched dville last year and saw what they did at regionals, Cedar Hill has fell off since 07'
I talked to a few of the Athletes suspended this week and they say that when coach Dorris first came, he was a cool laid back kind of guy but when they started to notice things such as not letting them particpate in Indoor track, then they started to feel and say to one another something doesn't seem right with this coach and then when they got suspended for running Indoor, the respect factor started to decline and when things got worser with Keondra Mallard, Joy Chadwick and Chrishauna Willams, then they started to lose respect for coach Dorris little by little untill when he broke the trophy from coach Reeves. Everyone knows about the broken trophy and now since this has escalated into a bigger deal, look for that part of the story to be on some local radio stations and an article about the whole story behind why the athletes did what they did and there disgust about coach Dorris in an up coming news article in the Dallas Morning news and this is for real no exaggaration. This is not from my words but the athletes.
I except we did wrong by running but we ran with no intentions of hurting the school or our teammates. We only ran to see where we were going to be against competition and to better our selves, so when we do run against comp we wont get beat or pull up like some athletes at the TCU Horned Frog Invitational. Coach Dorris put it upon us to do what we did we really wanted to run. We had no intentions of running at Lancaster but just to watch untill people were asking us and putting pressure on us to run and especially when we knew people from out of town came to watch our 4x4 relay since we posted a crazy time at that point of season with cold weather. I want to apoligize if it means anything to my team for letting them down if we never have a chance to come back and win state this year and i really mean that but we were just in that desperate zone to run in one of the crunkest track meets of the season and we were told were not going after some of us came up there around 8 a:m and waited for about 3 hours for Coach Dorris to show up. Yes we ran but I just hope that Coach Dorris realizes that he basically messed up this whole season and why would we show disrepect to a coach when we have never done that to Coach Reeves or Love but to Dorris? Why because he came in here with his own ego problem, told us we couldent run indoor track and then had the nerves to break Coach Reeves and Loves 2003 record breaking Jesuit Relay trophy and the Baton and say lets take this baton and use it in a meet because it "looks good", and lets move all this old "s.h.i.t" to side, referring to the old trophies in the locker room from the previous coaches. That right there made us lose respect for him even more and that he never cared about us and our outcome but about him and winning and getting his stats out there and winning easy meets with no competion so he can pile up his trophy case but the when the heat came and competition he backed out and was a coward. So YES WE RAN and the Discussion is over, WHAT EVER HAPPENS WILL HAPPEN!
Please do contact the UIL and every media outlet in Texas. The more you talk the more ridiculous you come across.
You broke a rule. You disregarded the coaches' wishes. You knew exactly what you were doing when you ran. Now, you want to blame everyone else but yourself. You are selfish and unworthy to be called "teammates". You let down the other kids on the TEAM. You also let down the school but I am betting that part does not bother you at all.
Advice: take your consequences and go quietly into the past. Parents if you choose to withdraw your child from Duncanville HS, I am sure that they will be happy to assist you with the paperwork.
I wish you the best and hope that you have learned a lesson so when you graduate and get into the "real world" you will know to follow rules, respect authority, and do what you boss asks of you. Otherwise, I am afraid you will live a life of misery while blaming everyone else.
It all has become clear to us now. I spoke to day to a person who supports the 7 Duncanville Athletes and I specifically told them that the ruling was never in our control and it was up to the school to make the decision due to the fact that during spring break all UIL issues will not be dealt with during or after spring break and any including academics but any ineligible athlete is eliglibe for participation during that spring break starting on March 13th. Whoever keeps telling the news that it is in our hands needs to STOP!. It is up to the Athletic Director at that school to make the decision. I do understand though from that meet that Duncanville was not the only school without a coaching staff and who is considered "Unattached". The Rowlett Eagles Boys Track team were there present without any coaching staff. I was introduced to this web page by a particular person and I represent the real UIL so if you have any doubt in me or this post please feel free to contact me.
Cliff Odenwald
Department email: Director of Athletics
I am one of the parents who was against the D`ville coach, I am very upset with the coach for not only kicking my son off the team but others. I was recently told about this website. and different other people coming on here giving there opin on here. there are some crazy talking people on here. that think they know what`s going on, but don`t. people are so quick to judge a minute they hear about a situation and jump on it. there has been all kind of others problem going on at D`ville before the situation of the Three girls going to another school and the 7 boys being removed from the team. there are parents getting ready to pull there kids out of that school and if they stay. they are not going to do any sports for them. I speak spanish or english whatever your name is. get your facts right. there was a problem with Coach Dorris before he came to D`ville while he was at Red Oak. I ask my son why did he run? He explain that one of the official ask them why were they sitting in the stand and not running. he explained that the coach told them the meet was cancelled and they found out from ther friends from other schools that it was not cancelled. so they came to watch the meet. the offical and a coach that was hosting the meet told one of the other runners that they could run. so that`s why they ran. and i was very upset when i had to take my child that morning to the school, with the other athlete`s. we get there around 7:30. some other kids was ther a little earlier and some came a little later the coach shows up after 11:30. and tells them the meet was cancelled do to bad weather. What kind of Coach shows up to school that late and where in the hell was the other coaches.
Did any of you people read the post by UIL? Do you not understand that rules are place? Do you not understand that the rules were broken?
Because of your racist hate for the Duncanville staff, you have tried to turn this into an issue that it is not. The issue is, rules were broken and the consequences enforced. Duncanville would have faced further consequences had the coaching staff not taken the steps that they did. The rest of the team would have suffered had they not taken the steps that they did.
Shame on the club "recruiters" and shame on Lancaster coaches for their part in this mess. They are the ones to blame for this situation but for some it's so much easier to turn their racist hate on "Whitey" and blame him for all their problems.
It has always been this reason why Duncanville's Track and Field program has declined this season. Ego, The Ego of coach dorris has derailed Duncanville. How can you let one man, ONE MAN come into the 2nd Largest High School in the nation to one of the best Track programs in the nation and respected and ONE MAN who was 5th in line for the job. Come and destroy not only Duncanville's track program both boys and girls but also there futures and a chance for a State Championship, I am in AW
We shall see. End of Disscusion it is over with now and UIL will make there ruling and however it turns out if not in favor of the athletes oh well there is 2 loses hand in hand nobody wins. This DISD coach nonsense though is to childish to be even reckoned with so with all said and done lets not play the blame game hear and use Coach A or any club affiliated coach as a scapegoat. The athletes themselves say they chose to ran and nobody forced them or gave them any advise.
Coach Truth,
Ask me about a letter and voicemail from "Coach Anthony S" saying I am DISD coach. Better yet, just wait until it is posted in the Dallas Morning News.
I hate to tell you guys on this board but this rule is a UIL that cannot be taken lightly or reversed.
The rule about being able to run during spring break deals with grades not the unattached rule. Section 1207 states you cannot run unattached anytime in a UIL sanctioned meet. The rule also states the UIL can punish each athlete up to three years. To me, it sounds like the athletic director is trying to save the juniors and sopres from the UIL by implementing a self-imposed suspension. THE UIL can still suspend them for up to three years!
Also, Lancaster HS will face UIL sanctions though the State Executive Committee. Sorry guys, this is out of the school, coach, or AD's hands. Your year is done. There will be no overturning of the suspension because it was made at the local level not the UIL. However, the UIL may still give a longer suspension.
Also heard that one of the relay runners was not even eligible to run on varsity because he just moved in. Was told he ran at Lancaster. If that's the case, thier entire relay team would be ineligible for district. I also think that a violation of the rule in 1207 would cause problems for the entire track team if the seven were allowed to run at district because their eligibility is in question.
The rule was broken and the consequence sounds severe but I think there are pretty good reasons behind the suspension. Like trying to keep the entire track program off of UIL sanctions and trying to keep the underclassman from further suspension by the UIL.
So far this year, three girls and now seven boys have gotten bad advice or made bad choices with disregard to UIL rules. All three girls have been found ineligible for varisty competition for one year and the seven boys are done for this year.
All of these rules are online on Duncanville's site and the UIL site. I ADVISE THAT YOU GET TO KNOW THE UIL RULES!
I am sure that the coaches and ad at DHS are heart broken because they want to win as bad as anybody.
this is crap! i do not care what went on, if the rule was stated, it is hard to find and i dont see it. These guys are young men trying to do their very best, and compete at the highest level. So you are going to suspend these young men for competing at a meet that they apparently thought would benifit them? they did not go off and do drugs, or beat someone up or rob a bank, all they did was RUN IN A MEET! we are track runners THIS IS WHAT WE DO! I believe these young men should be allowed to run! This is what causes problems in hs athletics. Egotistical coaches who let their personal self-esteem issues get in the way of letting young men compete! i say
LET THEM RUN!!!
Competition is noble, bulls--t politics are not
Breaking news... once the UIL finds out that during spring break any ineligible athlete can run then you will be looking dumber than anyone on hear.
One other thing, everyone knows that your not really Coach Anthony and that you are really Coach Dorris himself. It is funny and stupid how you think anyone on this page is going to think that Coach A would really pretray himself as a Duncanville coach when "HE HAS HIS OWN TEAM" lol. And what is up with these accusations about outstanding warrents? its really childish and lame and a way to escape and put the blame game on somebody. Well with all said and done I just want to say whoever you are you seem paranoid about Coach A and like your scared about something and the only way you can escape whatever your scared of is by lying and accusing someone of false accusations. Be a man and dont talk on the blog, if you have something to say why dont you say it in Coach A's face. Trust me Coach A does not have time to talk on Flotrack if he has anything to say he will either call you up or be glad to talk face to face.
Breaking news....the UIL is not going to overtturn any decision. If anything they are going to issue longer suspensionsm up to three years. READ the rule!
One other thing, the junior speedsters will be finished once I am exposed for portraying myself as a DHS coach and they figure out how many warrants I have. Go tell your parents that you have been listening to a fraud.
I speak english to aruge with u is not even worth the time to take or live you have fun with what you say but at least I can put my name with my coment yes let it be known god will have mercy on all of us so to use it as a negative makes u dumber then what you all ready are and yes duncanville will be going to state 4by4 and all else with isaac first akeem secong me thrid and k dog last I laugh at yo coment and take it as a joke because words are just words without a action remember that
Like I said, no one on this blog should be suprised when UIL ruling turns in favor of the 7 Athletes and they are reinstated back and hopefully in shape enough to bring the 2009 State Track and Field Championship to Duncanville High School.
Jamison,
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I am very proud of that Jamison. You and Isaac have shown leadership on this blog thus far and I hope everyone can take lessons from that, and Beale Tolbert no way that was your comment, that has to be a prank or something.
How can people use what im trying to say and use it aganist me no im not talking about this coaches or nothing this is about us coach A is is a good coach he has made plenty of runner of what they are today and he dont need to try to get people people come who wants to get better he dont get the fastest kids I was slow but what am I know im part of the 4by4 team the has the best time in the state so far as of now alot of people is being anonymous if you dont have the couarge to say who you are on here why are you on here thats for everbody even the people i know this is going way to far and i am sick and tired of it if the parents going to fight let them fight and let the ad and coach dorris do wat they please because all of this yall saying aint going into kno media so what you writing for what freedom of speech well these speeches are not freedom this coments hurt people for people to act like this like kids like people with no home traing this is crazy yes I am wise but that dont even give me the right to get on here and say some non sence on here that when you get on here people get mad just by reading grow up yea yall right I am a kid but yall are adults and should know better really look at what you doing on here just yall opions yall say but watch all this talk on here is going to get some one hurt and no thats not a threat im just saying the facts I under stand we human but dang let the parents and kids do what they do and let the coaches and the AD do what they do and keep yall negative coments to yall self go write a book or something and stop waisting yall breaths on here im tired of getting on here preaching on here b/c you all need a dam reality check b/c i got mine but now yall need to get yours
Trackcatdad, why would you attack the man called "Coach Anthony" and threaten him with Kevin Ozee's "alliances" such as a Texas Senator and an Attorney right after just this morning this Coach Anthony you criticize tells you if you dont let his son run he will sue the school because his son had no reason why he was told he was not running or could not run.Trackcatdad you seem like Coach Dorris to me and im tired with all of this nonsense and emarrasment it brings me and my career.
coach dorris, the girls were not going to win state anyway, there not that good and arguing about club coaches and Isaac's dad, dont use that as your cover up for all the harm you have caused.
Jamison,
You are correct. This has gotten too personal. Here are the facts and some things that you don't know:
#1 The seven boys broke a UIL rule. This goes way beyond a Duncanville rule. The UIL can suspend the boys for up to three years and if they are allowed to run in the district meet they will jeopardize the entire team and program at Duncanville beacuse they have violated their eligiblity status. The AD suspended them not removed them. So the juniors and sopres may be able to return next year unless, the UIL gives them a further disciplne.
#2 Defamation of character, especially of a teacher, coach, or any other pulic figure is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Internet chat rooms and message boards can be traced by IP address and will be subpeoned in case of a suit. A defamation of character suit is not a pretty situation for the person(s) eing sued. Keep it up folks and don't be surprised if you get served lawsuit papers. You know teachers belong to professional organizations that pay for their attorney fees? Also, Coach O. is personal friends with a certain state senator from the Duncanville area whoa also happens to be an attorney. Not a threat, just giving you the facts so you are informed.
#3 Evidence has emerged that a "Coach Anthony" has been portraying himself as a Duncanville HS coach. Authorities believe that this "Coach Anthony" is actually a summer track coach and has been using this game to recruit kids. A letter and voicemails have been turned over to proper authorities. Fraud and impersonating a public official are also offenses and even more so for someone with outstanding warrants. I am sure that if "Coach Anthony" reads this message board he will know who he is. Coach A, time is running out for your game. I am sure the parents of your club will be very pleased when they find out what you have been doing.
#4 To call anyone who has spent anytime working in Duncanville a racist is ludicrous. Most of the coaches have spent their entire careers either playing and/or working with a diverse population. Coach Dorris played in the NFL with a majority African-American team. Coach Ozee has been in Duncanville 11 years and Coach Tolbert 7 years. All of these coaches would have no problem getting a job in any other district but choose to work in Duncanville because the majority of kids and parents are great people to work with.
Jamison, you are a wise young man to point out how personal this has gotten. It sure is funny how racism is brought into the picture when blame is trying to be deflected off of the real issue which is the kids broke the rule.
My kids' experience at DHS has been nothing but great. Coach Ozee does more behind the scenes for kids, despite their parents in some cases, than anyone I have ever seen. He has helped my daughters, without fanfare, more than any other adult. The coaches love the kids and I bet they are just as upset about this than anyone. Do you not think they want to win a state championship as well? In talking with Ozee, he is very upset with Lancaster HS for allowing this happen. He understands that kids make mistakes but since this is a UIL rule, he had to make the decision he made to protect the entire program.
#5 Coach Henderson was a volunteer. The UIL specifically prohibits volunteers from coaching high school. The previous head track coach at DHS was directed, in writing, to not allow Coach Henderson to coach the boys last year. The coach ignored the directive and is one of the reasons he was removed. Again, UIL rules were ignored. I guess since there are no rules in club track that mentality has spilled over to high school?
#6 Coach Dorris is the head coach and Coach Tolbert is the asst. head coach for a track staff of track coaches. DHS has more track coaches than most high schools. Coaches are paid to know the rules and to look out for the best interest of their students.
#7 When the decision was made to withdraw from the Lancaster meet and enter the TCU meet the next Saturday, why were the kids not excited about running in front of more college coaches at a college meet? Seems like a no-brainer there for all the parents griping about "getting exposure" for college scholarships.
#8 In an earlier post, someone said to "get ready for war." May I advise that before you "go to war" you know who your friends and enemies are? The AD has been here a long time and has more political friends, influence, and allies (black, white, and hispanic) in Duncanville than you may know. I've known this man for ten years and trust me he is here for kids. He also has pretty thick skin so if you "want to go to war", I'll be the first to say "I told you so" when you wind up looking like an idiot.
#9 I encourage whoever is going to the Dallas Morning News and local media to continue to do so. The more that you rasise hell the more your game is exposed. I'd love to see you on camera to tell your side of the story. Wouldn't that be great for a million people in Texas to see how ridiculous your behavior is because you are trying to deflect blame?
Again, go back to the facts of the situation. Who knows the rules better, kids, club coaches, the high school coach, or an athletic director who is on the Board of Directors for the Texas HS Athletic Directors Association?
Ask Isaac's dad how he feels about this situation and his son. Its funny how no one is asking his opinion. Oh wait, Channel 8 put him on the news last night. Why didn't they interview any other parent involved?
Stick with the facts and let the truth prevail. Believe me no one is happy with the truth and that includes the coaches.
all of this on here is getting really childish im 17 years old and I dont even play like some people on here if you got time to talk about some body about english what are you doing on here this is about Duncanville track and us proven that we can be the best my boy isaac we going to make everthing right b/c it seems like people on here wants us to fail idk why but they do and its stupid childish and I hope its not any grown people typing up bull like this if ever body dont come back then we gotta do good foe ever body that get kicked but into another fact this is turning really personal this has all ready gone to far and something need be done with siuation im tired of not being able to sleep at night because of something so dam childish like really drop yo pride and make this about to kids and running track this is not about the coaches, AD, supporters, parents this is for the kids so if you on here just to put yo little 2 cents in so u can say i said something about it get off because we got people on here who is trying to make a difference in are lives I take that back this is not about duncanville track this is about Duncanville boys track team im tired of this power struggle they say you gotta respect yo elders well you gotta give it to recieve it first i dont care who you are kid teenager adult coach mama daddy sister brother i dont care into this happens all is going to continue to happen is people boosting us up and other people busting us down so get a clue and act yall age ADULTS
duncanville yall keep yall head up...everyone at desoto is hoping that the whole situation will work out for the best. MOSTLT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BEAT YALL lol
Coach Derek Dorris, why dont you cancell the Carter Eddie Payne Relays for Duncanville tomorrow. Weather conditions are supposed to be colder and worser than the day of Lancaster Meet of Champions.
All you can do is handle it. The worst thing you can do is panic. Use it to your advantage. Avoid Insanity, manage to conquer every obstacle, make impossible possible. Even when winning's illogical. Losing is still far from optional. I am proud of you Isaac for that comment. Way to be a leader and keep your head up and leave it all like you said in God's Hands. Lets not get to the low level of others, you see why I myself do not reply to this insulting false comments that are not true, they want you to get angry and speak against them so they can make some kind of point.
I am fed up with all this but still will fight to the end, I just want to apoligize for my profane comments towards "I Speak Myself" and to anyone else on hear. I am not sucking up to anyone on hear or trying to kiss Butt I am just trying to be the bigger man and represent me and my teammates in a good way and I have not set a good example by doing that on this website. So I ask Duncanville supporters to handle this in the right way with respect and dignity and for all of us to control our anger and let God take care of this present situation. What ever happens will happen, we did wrong by running at the meet I do not justify my self and my teammates at all for participating and we did wrong in that but when it comes to lying and sugar coating all the other problems and trying to destroy our futures just because of an ego problem then that is not fair and unjust. I just hope everyone against us can forgive us and realize we did not run unattached and no UIL rule was broken because according to the facts, any Ineligible athlete during spring break can participate ONLY during spring break.
No Sir I keep my word and when I say I am going to accompish something it comes to past. No one is threatining anyone on hear just making suggesttions to get in these hands if necessary. Nobody on this blog has proof that you are UIL official or even a coach "I Speak English" you do not state your name so how do we know you are a so called UIL official or coach when you dont state your affiliation. So trying to scare anybody on hear is just pure child's play so get that right partner and who ever you are come out and be proud of what you have to say and be man or woman enough instead of acting like a child and talking ignorant and again whats up with this racism your playing hear, if you want to take it to another level me and my "African American" people who you call out are ready for war so get ready and stack your papers. And by the way I ran a 10.75 fresh after the 110 Hurdles. Marquise Goodwin and Marquise Frazier were fresh when they ran and they did not have a horrible start like I did so ponder on that for a second instead of talking down on an athlete and putting him down.
Jerk!!!!..., why are you on here anyway, you suppose to be working not on here trying to tell someone how to speak, in that case you need to go on air to tell the whole nation how to speak then " basic communication skills". since we are benearth you. And the way we talk is not up to your standards. how bout dismissing yourself get back to work and coach whatever you coach lol.
Even when you try, you still have no concept of how to communicate in English. School or not, it helps to have basic communication skills if you want to make a point that people are going to take seriously.
No wonder the guys didn't know they weren't supposed to run at Lancaster. They had no idea what the coach was saying because he was speaking in English.
I speak english, why r u on here anyway, talkin to da kids anyway, go 2 a blog with other adults, and take popo with u, there is no school here, speak however u like. far as Issac being a dime a dozen, it goes the same way for coaches , if he/she can do there job, there`s another coach waiting in line, and the coach before will soon will be forgotten to. goes both ways FRIEND!!!!!...
FIRST OF ALL , THIS NOT SCHOOL, WHEN ANYONE IS MAKING THERE COMMENT. THEY ARE WRITING SHORT HAND LET ME GIVE YOU EXAMPLE. MR. OR MRS. POPO. THE =DA, YOU= U, WAS = WUZ, THAT=DAT, AND SO ON. IF YOU CAN`T READ IT ,THEN YOU DON`T NEED TO BE ON HERE. GO TO A BLOG THAT SPEAK THE WAY YOU LIKE. TALK TO "I SPEAK ENGLISH SOUND LIKE YALL WILL GET ALONE VERY WELL.
King, you sure like to throw the word "dumb" out there a lot. If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black....That's pretty funny for someone who can not speak or comprehend English.
Isaac, 10.75 runners are a dime a dozen and you soon will be forgotten. You can say you are going to do this and going to do that, but I've seen the same song and dance before. All talk...in gibberish of course.
First. I am embarrassed for the Duncanville kids. LEARN how to spell. Hell, I cannot even understand what you are writing. If I was your English teacher, I'd quit. Second, have you ever heard of the law about threatning a pulic employee? Hmmm. I read several threats on here. Go look that one up and see what consequences you get for breaking that law. The UIL is getting ready to be the least of your worries.
like real talk i even trippen bout the matter at hand until i got on flotrack dorris or whoever this guy is tlking stupid sound like a 10 year old and if you aint dorris you need to gon head and leave this site cus you is ridin is nuts a tad to hard buddy and i might get messy and tell his wife so chill and isaac boi you a trip for sayin sum bout dat dude eye dat aint even kool lmfao but bck to wat i was sayin come on gy you made some so small 2 BIG ...lol well at least you can tell you kids "when i use to coach i had a fast team i just kicked them off and started to listen to my assist coach a tad to much" come on guy grow sum balls lol ...panther pide wit a hawk lookin like a ealge in front for life baby..... lmafo jus think about it for amin
and im pretty sure yo team would of listen to u a tad better if you didnt come in there tryin to chang sh** and kickin people off da team dumb ass.... and for the record you cant take none of the credit of none of the relay times because for the 4x2 or 4x4 cause all those guys work out wit there REAL COACH everyday after they leave yo weak ass workout
Duncanville keep yall heads up like everyone telling yall and we praying for yall and yall have our respect, and who ever is I SPEAK IS, you are funny, Issic is the best 1st leg 4x4 runner in the state he went 48.2 in the cold and it felt like 20 degrees when we ran the 4x4 so that tells you what he can do when its warmer and i heard bout that 10.7 in L Town at first i thought it was Josh Harris but they were like Duncanvilles 1st leg in the 4x4 and i was like WHAT! but whats up with there last leg going 46 open thats crazy right, duncanville coulda did something, 47 lets say out the blocks, idk bout there other legs and a 45 split bro thats crazy but like i said Duncanville keep yall heads everybody in texas feel for yall and praying even though we want to blow yall out the water and i sense some racism going on here from someone white.
whoeva da hell "i can speak english" is and "who do you think i am now" can kiss my ass cause they sound real dumb lol they sound like one of dem stupid ass coachs from duncanville mr. dorris or mr tolbert woow let the dame kids run man that is da only important thing take yo pride some were else... the only reason they didnt listen to da dumb coachs is cause all of the are competitpors and want to run with the heat and the coachs wur actin like sum puks man i want to say sum diff wrds but i knw my coach gon read dis lol but anywho da sorry coachs are holding duncanville boys team back you know it should be isaac, kem , reggie, and ken for the 4x4 and reggie, josh, isaac, and ken for the 4x2 thats records and state right there DAME !!!!!! they messin up stuff on sum sh** ahhhhh man readin dez message got me MAD ill make sure to keep updated with them and whn they go 3:06 in the summer time so you can be lookin stupid in da unemployment line mr tolbert and mr dorris ha ha ha dumb asses yall act like sum kids man be the bigger person and let the kids run
And who has time on hear to care about there english except some geek like you, why dont you come get in these hands and like i say my real name say yours if man or woman enough or just be a scary pu$$y.
Why I go 10.75 F.A.T in the 100 in Lancaster bet you aint hear that and after I ran the 110's and bruised my knee and i beat 2 rowlett 4x1 runners who were in my heat and i had a bad start i aint that good lol you funny, ima go 47 FLAT out the blocks this summer, 20.7 in the 200, 10.2 yea in the 100, and like I said we going 3:06 and i aint that good, i hate sounding proud cuz im not that kinda person but im better that you'll ever be and plus I hate the 110's and i have no form and still be wrecking and i aint that good lol.
Speedsters 4x4!! Duncanville was alrite before Sorry dorris came and messed it up. when i ran in 2006 with Reeves and Love we went to state with no drama but Now.mmmmm. only god can say
Thank you all for ruining our lives and who ever is always coming on here talking down on us and our summer track coaches its all good. Note this, we going 3:06 in the 4x4 in summer track this year in 2009 and are going to smash records Duncanville may never get without us and we do no recruited or take money our coaches dont even get paid its just the love and the passion. Junior Speedsters Track club, best coach alive and to coach dorris just i dont care anymore, just take you and your hoe azz wife Coach Tolbert and go and get married back in sorry Texas Tech and let Coach Ozee be the best man and just go back to your sorry 3:23 4x4 red oak high school, cuz you have messed up my life and my relationship with my parents and my teammates season we just wanted to win for your azz but its all good though you lose too cuz the only person winning state is brigetta and maybe josh other than that I sware to God you will never win state without us. We aint bad people we good and all yall critizizing us yall some hoes and im done with this friendly stuff I dont give a DAMN no more and Coach Love, Henderson, Reeves, Williams and my Summer Track coach are 1000,000,000 times better than you will ever be so get you ugly broke azz are twitching eye lookin azz and sorriest Texas Tech wide receiver azz back to where your azz came from.
"coach" Henderson decided to make it mine and everyone esle's business when he came to txrunning.com and posted his e-mail which we now know is full of lies. If he hadn't wanted to bring more people into it, he could have stayed off of public forums with his rant.
I'm handling the "heat" just fine. I can "bite" back. I'm not the one on here crying and speaking gibberish. But I have every right to stand up for the coaches who did nothing more than enforce the rules which they put in place. High School athletics is a privilege, not a right. It is something you earn, not something you are given. You do what your coach asks, or you pack your bags and go home.
actually meant to make a separate post about it, but since all of this is bringing up the issue, I might as well make it here.
If you are a summer track coach, quit walking up to my athletes at our UIL meets and trying to talk them into running for you.
Quit sending some random runner from another school to get my athlete's cell # so you can text them your dinky little team website.
Most of all, quit bashing the HS program and saying that the coaches on staff at these high schools don't know what they're talking about. Last time I checked, the number of HS coaches at clinics outnumbers the club coach more than 10 to 1.
While I can admit that there are many summer track coaches that know their event well, it is also visible to anyone who has been around the sport that summer track team success is all about recruitment/athlete collection.
Oh yeah...More on the phone number bit -- don't send someone to get my athlete's phone number right after she crosses the line while I am in the middle of talking with her about her race (this just happened last weekend). What you are doing is like an AAU basketball coach trying to sign a kid up while they are on the bench during a high school game. Get off our playing field. Apply for a job at a high school if you want to be coaching at high school meets so badly.
I think that is the end of my rant. It is ridiculous that we even have to deal with this during our competitions.
EDIT: I don't really have a problem with summer track per se. I just don't like the push/pull I see the faster kids go through when recruitment time comes around each year. I also think a distance runner should either forgo it or compete off of just base training and tempo work while running down one event from their strongest race
The AD at Duncanville is one of the finest men that I know. He has done so much for the kids of Duncanville despite ignorant parents and ignorant summer coaches. He helps kids. I am sure that Coach Ozee has ample reason to suspend students.
Furthermore, my kid tells me that this is not the first issue with club this year. Check the three girls who transferred out of DHS in February because they did not want to adhere to rules. They were all declared ineligible by the UIL.
Coach Henderson, did you know that there is a UIL against "volunteer" coaches? Maybe if you did know the rule then you would have known not to hang around DHS as it would wind being one of the reasons the head track coach lost his job last year.
Coach Henderson, do you know the UIL rules regarding track meets or you just relying on heresay? Or perhaps you are relying on club rules?
Coach Henderson, are you aware that your post here and email to the Dallas Morning News just further validates the UIL rule that was broken.
Coach Henderson, before you go out in public and run down a coach you better get your facts straight. It is people like you and other club coaches who are ruining the high school track programs. But I am sure you would blame someone else for that?
Coach Henderson, you and the coaches of the club who are causing all the problems for Duncanville's track program make me sick. You have ruined a great year for not only my child but many others.
Now I think you owe the coaches and AD an apology
The funny thing about the letter is, they "assumed that the meet was cancelled", they just happened to go anyway AND have their spikes and running gear with them. Seems like they had every intention of defying coaches orders.
Sounds like they were suspended for disobeying the coach. The coach asked them not to compete that weekend and they did anyways. Now it appears that the club coach is trying to step in the way and interfere with the high school track coach's decision.
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Posted on 03/25/2009 14:13 EDT by panhandlerunner
Rules are Rules.. whether they are BS or not.
Not sure why kids are listening to other teams coaches. This would have made it very easy for a school to come back and say "Hey these guys broke the rules at this meet" and get them DQ from regionals/state.
Unfortunately, the coach made a decision and the kids should have followed it. I dont neccessarily agree with the ruling, but it is what it is. Abide by it. panhandlerunner
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Posted on 03/25/2009 15:01 EDT by kthomp
They were told they weren't to run. That is all that has to be said. Why didn't Josh Harris run? Because he was told not to.
Crap like this happened at Dunc in the past, and the new coach is standing up for his program. Coach Love is gone and so are his antics.
Dorris felt he did what he needed to do for his team.
These guys just need to accept their mistake and move on. They can prove to college coaches how good they during summer track. They seem like typical selfish summer track kids.
have an idea...how bout we all just agree that Duncanville is just a bunch of chumps that don't know how to follow rules. The kids should have not gotten all butt hurt about not being able to run this one race. In reality they should have been more concerned about running in may in austin than one dumb meet. Bunch of pathetic losers!!!! runduderun2
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Posted on 03/26/2009 00:00 EDT by slxcrunr
if these summer track coaches are soo good why cant they get a job at a high school? there are plenty of places where a coach from another sport must coach track/cc why not go there instead of privateering and ruining it for kids like these?
1) Call Henderson a coach is DEAD wrong!!
2) He is mad that Coach Dorris wouldn't let him "help" out this year at Dunc
3) Henderson is pissed that his "Goddaughter got pissed at D'ville and moved to DeSoto (for athletic reasons) and was denied by DeSoto's district committee AND the state committee in Austin.
4) Henderson is getting ALL of his information from a)Coach Love b) Mr. Frazier (a kid's dad who was suspended)and c)the kids.
5) Two of the kids (the hurdlers) had already broken rules earlier in the year that warrented suspensions.
6) The kids were specifically told NOT to run!! This his Coach Dorris's program and he has the right to run when and where he chooses, it is NOT the Cedric Love's show (it is getting a little late in season for him to be coaching track).
I could easliy continue this discussion and as you can see I know what I'm talking about!! The just of the matter is this: The kids BROKE A RULE and a SPECIFIC instruction from a coach and are getting 100% of what they deserve!!!
Great Job Coach Ozee and Coach Dorris keep it up!!
"Mr Speak English, I don`t do theats and don`t babble. I am simple saying this is not your business stay out of it. To be bitten is by anybody that`s on here who don`t care for you are saying. So let me break it down to you " IF YOU CAN`T TAKE THE HEAT,THEN GET THE HELL OUT THE KITCHEN" ( IF you don`t want to be bitten, then get out the yard with the dogs) You understand now!!!!!...
Which Anonymous Coward are you taking to Mr I Speak English, the kids ran under duncanville name with duncanville logo. they did not run unattahed. since you know so much, tell me the other team that was there with no coach. and also ran "Mr Speak English" oh by the way there is more then one Anonymous Coward on here.
Yes changed that is right but the new reign of coach Dorris has also gotten made things worser. Now I speak English" let me inform you that you do not know all the circumstances that took place. First of all the kids ran in Duncanville Track attire that says on there shirts "Duncanville Track" and on there Shorts "Duncanville Track" so they wore Duncanville Track attire. Second, not having a coach present is not being meant as if an unattatched team. Accoriding to UIL rules it does not state that anywhere. 3rd Duncanville paid for the meet and registered all athletes so when the athletes showed up they checked and ran as they do every meet without there Track coach and for your info to Hell with your coach has to be present that is not true. Another one of the elite track teams in Texas did not have a coach present at the Lancaster Invitational meet of Champions. The Rowlett Eagles, Kyle Clemons, Marquise Goodwin, and some relays members of Rowlett were all seen coming out of a car, meaning they drove to the meet and their coach was not present and we all have proof because we talked to Kyle Clemons after his 400 and he even said they drove to the meet and their Head coach or any coach for that matter was not present. So why dont we bring accusations to Rowlett as well and say its all UIL rules. They ran so called unattached as you say as well right? NOT, there is no UIL rule stating that so get your facts straight. So let me just inform you, stop insulting people on here including Coach Henderson and you do sound like either this coach Ozee or Dorris people are talking about. I dont know im just suspicious but with all said and done have in your heart to forgive and realize that some seniors are apart of this situation and need scholarships for college and so for that reason they have ran indoor, trained hard and dedicated time and hard work to prepare for the school track season. Please whoever you are join in for the benifit of the athletes especially seniors and forgive them and give them a chance. They have already been through enough and punished enough and they mean no disrespect or hard feelings to Coach Dorris and or Coach Ozee or whomever. So please guys lets stand up for these athletes and lets not make this issue a Big Deal and take it out of Proportion its not like the kids act up in school and are horrible people or did something horrific as in stealing or something. They have a chance to be the greatest 4x4 in Texas ever! Yes ever! and even give Coach Dorris a good name if you dont want that to happen there must be some jealousy or fear of these athletes doing great things if you are of course from another team. With all said and done, IF the weather was really cold I dont even think the kids would have wanted to run meaning it was something down deep and personal why Duncanville was told they were not going to participate, the weather got warmer that day and Duncanville this season has run in worser conditions. Duncanville runners pulled up at TCU Horned Frog invite this past saturday in warm weather and not one pulled up or got hurt at the Lancaster meet.
First of all, it's very difficult to understand what you are saying. The key below the "L" key is a period. You should try using it from time to time.
To answer your claim that they weren't unattached, I will just quote Coach Henderson from his e-mail that has been circulating around the state, which is how I caught word of it in South Texas.
"The kids were informed by the Meet Director and Head Boys Track Coach Greg Williams of Lancaster along with other meet officials that it was alright for them to run and no U.I.L. rules will be broken. Matter of fact, the kids were told specifically that they would be considered unattached and that there times would not be recorded."
That to me sounds like they ran unattached at the suggestion of Greg Williams. It is a violation of UIL rules to allow athletes to run unattached at a UIL sanctioned event.
Now I will quote "coach" Willie Henderson from his post on txrunning.com.
"Please allow me to interject a few items here..
1) when the coach informed the team that were not running, the uniforms were turned in at that time. The kids ran in their own shorts and t-shirts;"
If they ran in their own clothes and/or they didn't have a coach present, they are unattached.
Either way, they broke rules. I'm sorry the whole idea of a set of rules is new to you and not something you were used to under the previous regime, but it looks as though things have changed.
Respect lol Respect is not given but earned no matter how much authority is in place the kids have not earned the trust of the coaches and have every right to decide that, none of this happened with Coach Reeves and Love so that has to tell you something.
And last but not least for your info Duncanville had registered online and paid for the meet so saying they ran unattched is complete bull how are they going to run unattached when there names werent even on the list or paid as an unattached team lol so someone is trying to play the blame game hear and say they ran unattched when that is not the case, there is no race game hear just some thoughts of opinion so get your mind right and YOU stop playing the race card.
Na buddy we know your Ozee your not from the other side of Texas or anything, you told someone on the phone that henderson was playing the race card and you come on here saying henderson is playing the race card. So and for your info nobody broke UIL rules and the coaches never informed the athletes not to run at the Lancaster meet nor told them in the beginning of the year which is a complete lie that you have made up and now are trying to cover up you cant believe Coach Dorris and Tolbert even if they are coaches you have to get the whole story there are some currupt coaches out there but the whole point is Duncanville represented Duncanville at the meet and they never ran unattched they checked in as Duncanville and ran as Duncanville so get that right and first of all they were never warned or told not to run they were just told duncanville is not going to the meet because of some weather issues so the whole point is Dorris lied to Ozee or Ozee is just a lier himself and trying to cover up and 60 Days is just too much I understand 2-weeks but not 60 Days, there are seniors on the team its not like they went to a meet and brought guns.
Dear #1, I only brought up the race card issue because Coach Henderson played it up first in his tirade about plantations and slavery.
It has become obvious that many are turning this into a black vs. white issue instead of considering the fact that some kids broke UIL rules. Not to mention the fact that Lancaster HS broke UIL rules by allowing unattached runners in their track meet. A coach, wether he is white or black, has an obligation to make sure his athletes follow UIL rules. If the UIL steps in, it's ultimately the coach's and AD's tail on the line. Summer track "recruiters" aren't accountable to anyone in the same way that HS coaches are accountable to their school and the UIL. HS coaches have to play by a different set of rules.
To Coward:
#1 You obviously do care what I have to say because you keep responding.
#2 I'm not concerned with being bitten. Is that some kind of threat or are you just blabbering on?
I Speak English, You know nothing about what`s going on in D`ville.I suggest you keep your comments to yourself. I don`t care what you have to say , the way you feel, what you eat or drink. I am a parent and my son is one of the athlete in question.so if don`t won`t to be bitten then get out the yard with the dogs.
When there is wrong being done for no explanation or when the punishment does not fit the crime, sometimes the only feasible explanation is that it is motivated by race. I am African-American and I have been the only black supervisor at the manufacturing plants I worked at, for over 20 years. Part of the reason I have been successful and been one of, if not, the best is because of my fair and impartial treatment of everyone that has ever reported to me, no matter what race they are. I am firm, but I am also fair. When someone acquires a reputation for always disciplining another race to extreme degrees, obviously questions of this nature are going to be asked. The labor board will come out to a company to investigate questionable activity. Perception is sometimes just as bad as actually being guilty. That's why as a professional person, or someone in a leadership position over a diverse work group, needs to make sure that his distribution of punishment is fair and consistent with company policy. But, this is not a company. This is a track team and you would think a coach would have the best interest of the athletes/kids at hand or he would be conscience of the repercussions of his actions. The only way these suspensions could be justified is if those athletes that were suspended were detriments to the team. The degree of these suspensions is unfair and unjust. This is like to giving someone 5 years in prison for running a red light. I don't use the race card when I don't get my way, because my credibility has always enabled me to get just and fair treatment. Isaac's and Kennedy’s past behaviors and reputations at Duncanville alone should not warrant this extreme discipline. So anyone on the outside looking in can't help but wonder. I've seen it a lot of times in the past. Weak minded individuals with false pride and a large ego make a lot bad decisions. Their decisions are made just to make a stand and prove their point about who is right or in charge. And, race can be a factor in those prideful decisions. Our president still is catching hell, and most of it is because he is black. Is that playing the race card? No, its reality. The bottom line is when you distribute unfair and unjust punishment to a group of individuals whose race is different from yours, you better be prepared for the backlash. And by you, 'I Speak English', coming on here mentioning the race card, shows that YOU are focusing more on the race part of this than the actually travesty that is taking place with the track team at Duncanville.
I don't know Coach Ozee or anyone else in this thread. I coach on the other side of Texas.
But I see the problem. The HS coaches have the authority when it comes to what their team does in the Lancaster Relays.
The summer track coaches need to stay out of the way when it's not summer, and the athletes need to respect their HS coaches during the season.
Coach Ozee thank you for your insight but dont bring summer track COACHES into the problem because there 100 times better than whom you have hired and so your telling me that they really lied and made there own judgement and rule when they say its UIL rules when UIL has nothing to do with it and there hurting these kids futures especiall when they have a chance to win state for the school and maybe even bring more money, lol no you Welcome to the real World and just get ready for war.
I stand for doing what's right. I'm not enough "in-the-know" to decide if the punishment was too harsh or not. I suspect there were events leading up to this that factored in to the decision that was made. I have a feeling that the interference of summer track "recruiters" has caused problems on the team in the past.
I do know, however, that the runners broke rules set forward by the coach and the UIL. The DHS coaches want to stay in compliance with UIL rules and enforce their own rules, so they suspended the runners in question. A program based on insubordination will not experience long-term success. A coach has every right to enforce the rules they put forward.
Welcome to the real world.
State your real name if you got something to say and stop being scary I Speak English no one is playing the race card and hell yea we trying to get are way when there is injustice, you must be paranoid or something to say who you really are and say what you gott say ya digg.
It`s not about getting our, my and whoever way, It about fighting, supporting and doing what`s right. i call what i see, and i support "coach" Henderson. He`s standing for what he believes. you have be willing to stand for something. What do you stand for besides pointing your finger @ someone Mr , Mrs, Miss "I SPEAK ENGLISH".
I was only speaking to "coach" Henderson and anyone else that wants to play the race card. Not all African-Americans stoop to playing the race card when they don't get their way.
I was really touch to hear how some of the members from the Desoto track team, is supporting D`ville. U guys u have my respect for stepping up like that. putting your differences to the side. I hope u guys kick butt, Even if d`ville don`t get to run." Do Us Proud Eagles"
Learning the basics of the English language might help many of you get your point across a little better.
Coach Henderson, your playing of the "race card" just shows that you lack class. When your arguement resorts to the race card, you no longer have a leg to stand on.
One more thing, yea I know we did wrong by running and I want justify myself for doing it but we wanted to run BAD and Coach Dorris and Tolbert put us in that situation especially when everyone in L-Town was asking us where yall 4x2 and 4x4 at, how come yall aint running so we just couldent help it anymore so we did what we did but honestly we had no Idea untill Coach Dorris told us that it was against UIL cuz if we did we wouldent have been dumb to run even if we were desperate but the point of this whole matter is its not against UIL rules and Keving Ozee, Dorris and Tolbert just be lying and is also trying to get Lancaster which wont work. God dont like this and how is one man gonna come in here from sorry Red Oak and just destroy everything including Keondra Mallard, Chrishauna Williams and Joy Chadwicks season because they cant run on varsity on the whole year and they can beat every girl on Duncanville's Track team it just aint right. But Duncanville keep yall heads up and PRAY cuz we shall overcome.
Like I said Duncanville keep yall heads up and dont let all this talk get to yall and just be patient and pray cuz whatever happens will happen and if we dont come back oh well but Deandre, Jamison, Akeem and Josh yall gotta step up and roll and let everyone know who Dville is and yall beastly without me kennedy, reggie, gabe jacolby, frazier and cook so when the summer time comes they really going to be scared when we come back Jr. Speedsters just wait till the summer time baby.
I just would like to know who Coach is to say im the reason our 4x1 not gone make it whoever u are please say yo name u was bold enough to say mine say yours and come find me and see if u beat me. let me know.
Coach said: “Without Kennedy and Isaac I just dont see Duncanville winning state in track for a long time, yea josh might get 3rd or 4th at state in the open 100 and 2nd or 3rd in the open 200 if he can beat Allens 200 runners in region 1-5A if he gets out and without Kennedy and Isaac I doubt there 4x2 might get out of regionals because everyone knows there 4x1 has no chance with Dre on there and there 4x4 cant win without Kennedy and Isaac even if you have either Kennedy or Isaac on there you need both to win, no one in the State is a better out the block runner other than Isaac on 1st leg and Kennedy is to me will be the fastest 400 runner in the state but as of now the 2nd fastest 400 runner in the state of texas and I hope the coaching staff at Duncanville can forgive these athletes again for the last time and give them the oppurtunity to win the title for them this year and punish them of course but not hurt the team by doing it because this might be the only year maybe for this whole decade that a track team has so much talent and can break so much records like The Duncanville Panther Track team boys of course for 2009 and led by a good coach who will be respected by many and his ATHLETES if he does things in the right way beneficial for him and his team.”
i Dre yes Dre from duncanville would like to know who this is if u bold enough to say my name and say our 4x1 aint nuttin with me on it then u bold enough to say yo name and come tell me about it. whoever this is u dont know nothing u just talking cause i aint slow and aint the problem so whoever u are u tell me or better yet email me
Yes im back im just praying that Duncanville can come back and continue what we planned to do win state but on a another note i want to coment on what justin said below yes Duncanville was garbage at TCUsand yes i ran at TCU i ran the 4by1 and open 400 and yes I messed up on the hand off and i pulled up in the 400 but let it be known I got hurt 2 days before the meet and the coaches was told and what they say do they streches there streches dont work for me I was so use 2 running aganist slow people compared to me then when i had to run aganist people that was my speed or faster I had to really run my legs were never pushed to a limit into TCU I was in first place at the 300 mark were I pulled up for your coach to say that you pulled up because you was lossing but how can this be right when I was in first place that is a shame yes I know in my heart i kno I could went 48 open if i wasant hurting im saying that when the competion came we had to turn it on and when we did are legs was not use to it and we all pulled up me akeem dre and josh so did we all pull up because we was lossing does that tell you something that 3 15 ran last year if we get to run again together we are going to blow that time out the water starting a new era of duncanville runners desoto and lancaster yall going to push us and we going to push yall we going 12 at state and lancaster is going to win 4-A dont kno wat order but we will trust I just ask that yall keep praying for us like yall have been doing for us all ready and hopefuuly we will all be on the track soon and thank everbody for helping and who will help us later on
So the 4x4 relay for Duncanville last year that went to state pretty much got kicked off the team lol they were the team and this new coach has pretty muched destoyed Duncanville's track program and its too bad Issac, Gabe, Reggie and Kennedy cant win state or transfer and be able to get schloarships. I heard though that the new coach told some runners that he did not do the suspensions it was Kevin Ozee but if the new coach really cared for himself and the team he wouldent have lied to Ozee and said they were warned when the only person who was told about not running from Duncanvilles Track coach because of some false UIL rules was Josh Harris when his dad talked to the coach. So not everyone was told not to run so when they say they told not to run and go home its an absolute lie, all they told them was they weren't going and they were going to run at TCU the week after and when I was at TCU this past saturday Duncanville looked garbage and everyone was getting hurt lol this new coach has just messed up a great track program from coach Reeves to Love, DAMN!!!
The following email was sent today by me to the Dallas Morning News. (the email was addressed to sports writers Keith Whitmire, Matt Wixon, and Damon Sayles). Hopefully someone will shed some light on this non-sense at Duncanville..and get these kids back on the track.
Good afternoon, Mr. Whitmire. My name is xxxxxxxx Henderson. I am sending this email to you and your colleagues to shed some light on a situation at Duncanville High School that is unjust and unfair. Hopefully after reading this, something can be done on your end to assist the parents in righting a wrong.
As of yesterday afternoon, five kids were suspended from running track for 60 days (I'm not sure that there are 60 days left in the school term) by Duncanville's Athletic Director, Kevin Ozee. The kids supposedly broke a U.I.L. rule for basically running in a track meet unattached. The problem with these suspensions is: (1) the kids were told that they could run without limitations and (2) the U.I.L. rule that was supposedly broken has not been identified. The kids that are suspended include seniors Kennedy Daughtery and Issac Ogulande. Both are ranked in the area in the 300 and 110 hurdles, respectively along with running legs on two state ranked relays.
The meet that the kids participated happened on March 14th at the Lancaster Invitational Meet of Champions. Duncanville was scheduled to compete that day but Head Track Coach, Derek Dorris, decided that it was in the best interest of the kids not to compete. He cited health and weather concerns for the reason of not running; even though, he allowed his track team to participate in track meets the previous three Saturdays, to the Lancaster meet, where the weather was far worse than the day in question. The kids were under the assumption that the entire meet was cancelled because that was what the coach indicated to them. Not only was the meet not cancelled, every top track school in the Metroplex was there.
Once the kids arrived and started watching the meet, the kids were bombarded with questions from some of their peers (i.e. Duncanville, Desoto, and Lancaster kids), people from out the area, and the meet officials asking why they were not running (evidently, Coach Dorris failed to communicate w/Lancaster that they would not be participating because the kids were still listed in the perspective lanes). You have to understand that Duncanville went into that weekend with the fastest times in the State of Texas (a 1:26 in the 4x2 and a 3:17 in the 4x4 along a top sprinter in Josh Harris in the 100 and 200 meters), so alot of people came to see them run. The kids were informed by the Meet Director and Head Boys Track Coach Greg Williams of Lancaster along with other meet officials that it was alright for them to run and no U.I.L. rules will be broken. Matter of fact, the kids were told specifically that they would be considered unattached and that there times would not be recorded.
Once it was made known to Coach Dorris that the kids participated in the meet, he promptly suspended them from track practices and the recent track meet this past weekend at T.C.U. Now IF a rule was broken, I do not believe that the kids should be held accountable because they were told by people in authoritative position(s) that it was alright for them to run. All the kids wanted to do was participate and compete against kids on their level as opposed to the ones they had been running against prior. I believe that a permanent solution to a temporary issue has been made. Duncanville 's A.D. has taken away the potential ability of earning a scholarship by not allowing them to perform in some of the top meets (i.e. Sheaner, Texas Relays, etc.)
It should be noted that I do not have a direct relation to the situation. None of the kids are my own. I am a summer track coach who actually lives in xxxxxxxxx . I'm just someone who is trying to get a wrong headed in the right direction before it's too late. It should also be noted that these kids are not troublemakers. Matter of fact, Duncanville was poised to be considered one of the better track teams to come out the Dallas area in a long time. I am just emailing you to hopefully get the parents some needed support and possible publicity on this situation. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me via email or at xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide,
xxxxxxxxxx Henderson
Good luck to Desoto and Lancaster's 4x4 Relays and to Eric and Tyler at the Carter Shootout. I expect them to get 1st and 2nd again like TSU Relays and maybe even brake the 3:17:1 or which ever yall say 3:17:90 which ever one but either one of these teams go faster and hopefully if me and Kennedy can come back, us 3 teams can represent Texas at the Texas Relays and at State in both 4-A and 5-A but Good Luck! to all and Duncanville pray and keep yall heads up.
I forgot the main reason I came on here tonight. Since most of the comments on here have been negative about a coach. I like to recognize Coach Williams of Lancaster for the good job of coaching at the TSU Relays. He was smart enough to recognize that Tyler Stephenson split a 49 on the Sprint Medly Relay on the 400 leg, and put him back on the 4x4 after he had taken him off. Some of you will say that's what coaches are supposed to do. Well, there are a lot of high school track coaches in the Dallas Metroplex that don't put their fastest 4 runners on their relay for whatever reasons. Track is simple, you go with the fastest at that time that gives you the best chance of winning. It does not matter who's son he is, if he was the quarterback on your football team, or who he runs for in the summer time. This happens all the time at a lot of schools. Believe it or not, we sit in the stands all the time and ask 'Why isn't this kid not running on this relay'. The switch that Coach Williams made, made a big difference in 4x4 Saturday night. I know that this is 5A, but I just had to recognize Coach Williams for doing a good job. I wish all of our coaches in the Metroplex would follow his example.
This is a very serious matter. My son runs on the Duncanville team and is apart of the relay.I am furious to what has happen not to just my son but to the rest
of the team. I pray for these kids, I believe that god will handle it, When i spoke with Coach Dorris he seemed nervous and not confident in what he was saying. and stuttering thought the conversation. kept mentioning it was against UIL. I`m not sure if Coach Dorris know the ruling of UIL. he did not convince me. Are there any other parents on here that has a kid(s) that goes to Duncanville? What can we do?
Everyone, please excuse me for going back and forth with this immature nut and continuing this. But, I have to say this. Anonymous Coach, you can't have a brain in your head. How many times must I say it? I am not Coach Dorris. Evidently, YOU must want everyone to think I am coach Dorris. If I was Coach Dorris, wouldn’t I just log on as Coach Dorris when I said nice things about Jamison and Kennedy? You have had a problem with what I have been posting on hear ever since I said that I think Desoto's 4x4 would beat Duncanville’s. Why would I say that if I was coach Dorris? It also bothered you when I stated that IF I was Duncanville's coach, I would put Kennedy on 2nd leg of the 4x1. YOU didn't think Kennedy was fast enough. If I was coach Dorris, wouldn't I just do it? YOU are the same person that logs on here as 4 or 5 different people to make your point. I have only logged on here as the #1 4x4 Fan. How many names have you logged on under? YOU are the same person that made everyone think at first that YOU were Kennedy and Isaacs’s summer track coach until Isaac came on here and told YOU that you are not their coach and that you must be stalking them. And above all else, YOU are the one that came on here as the #1 4x4 Fan talking as if you are Coach Dorris because deep down in your immature soul, it bothered you so much that I said something on here about Duncanville that you disagreed with. It started out with us disagreeing about which team would win the 4x400 relay. And, that’s fine. We are both entitled to our opinion. The difference is that I don't attack people on here and hold a grudge with people that have disagreed with me in the past. You can't be a grown man. I have said it before and I am saying it again, you got issues man. This is not about me and you. I am a Desoto fan, but I was track fan long before I was a Desoto fan. Unlike you, I can speak highly about any track team in the Dallas Metroplex and listen to people talk about any track team without it bothering me. When I go to the Texas Relays and TSU Relays, I love it when the Dallas Metroplex does well. I was grinning from ear to ear when Demontre Hurst from Lancaster and Eric Caro from Desoto blew away the field on 2nd leg of the 4x4 at the TSU Relays. I was still grinning when Lancaster and Desoto went 1st and 2nd, even though Desoto lost. I was still grinning when I congratulated the kids and the coach of Lancaster for a good race. Being a true track fan, I have a great deal of respect and admiration for the Duncanville kids (as well as Lancaster) because of the talent they have. I wish the best for Duncanville because they have/had the potential to be a great track team. A true competitor/warrior would not be happy if they did not beat their opponent at their best. I don't think you are too smart or read very well, so let me rephrase this for even you can understand it: If Desoto is going to beat everyone in the state, I want them to beat everyone at their best, and that includes Duncanville. And like I always said, it’s a friendly rivalry. I know too many parents of the kids on the Duncanville track team (as well as Lancaster) for it too be anything else. If I WAS coach Dorris, none of this mess would be going on. I am from the old school when great coaches like Coach James of Roosevelt and Coach Grant of SOC was winning championships. I have too much class to come on here and attack anyone. This blog/website is something just for me to post my opinions and state facts about track and the 4x400 meter relay. It is not an outlet for me to constantly brag about Desoto. Unlike YOU, I am above that behavior. I am mature enough to let the kids settle everything on the track. This is another reason why I remain anonymous. I don’t want my opinions to be viewed like an obsessed biased fan like you. A fan so obnoxious and infatuated with Duncanville, that YOU come on here as 4 or 5 different people to make and support your points. I think sometimes you answer yourself. So, one more time, I am not coach Dorris. This is not between me and you. If what I said bothered you in the past, you need to let it go. If you continue to come on accusing me of being coach Dorris, you will be showing everyone on here how truly childish, ignorant, and immature you really are. But, you have already shown ME how truly ignorant you are. So, I know you will be back on here logging on as different people (Anonymous Coach, Anonymous Coward, Duncanville Supporter, UAR, etc) STILL accusing me of being coach Dorris. I just ask that everyone else on here (especially mature Duncanville Supporters) PLEASE be smart enough to see through this and just focus on the cleaning up that mess at Duncanville. I am still hoping that the suspensions are reduced in time for the Texas Relays. Now, since I have let the cat out of the bag that I am a Desoto fan, check out what Desoto’s 4x4 is going to do this weekend at the Carter Shoot Out. I think they might be getting ready to make a little change. The 4 runners that I think Desoto is putting on the track Saturday at the Carter Shoot Out have not run together this year. I wish Duncanville could be there because I am a track fan first and foremost. With the way Kennedy, Isaac, Akeem, and Jamison were running, it would have been a hell of a race. So everyone else, forgive me this WAY TOO LONG message. And, forgive me for sounding like an obsessed fan when I say ‘Get your popcorn ready’ for the 4x4 at the Carter Shootout. One last thing, if this nut accuses me of being Coach Dorris again, I promise I will TRY to either ignore him or keep it short next time.
How do you go from a well know school in track & field to a school who coaches that running this sports and kids into the ground. The question is what can we do to help the kids and the coaches need $h!+ or get off the pot. They have so much talent and he seems to be clueless with what to do with it. Just Mkake those kids miss the the other meets but districts, regional and State meet. Make them run bleachers and other extra stuff but don't them out the game. God don't like ugly.
Me to Ive been on this website quite a bit now and to my understanding the #14x4 Fan sounds like Dorris himself especially the way he talks and his opinions and it sounds like he is kind of trying to cover up by talking good in Kennedy Daughtery and Jamison Green.
No way there aint no mo Dville 4x4, yes the reign and talk is finnanlly coming to end for there 4x4, i guess 3:15 is all they can go, na its are turn to show the worlds that 3:08 were talking especially now that we have a horse team out the way. YA DIGG!!!
You know in the past, I've been told that D'Ville has a "Plantation Mentality". I never really thought about it until these recent incidents. Then I thought back to last year when the only black head coach (Coach Love) was relieved of his duties over some unproven b.s. Then I was reminded that every sport at D'Ville has a white overseer. All the way from football to girls soccer...and just like slave time, if you fail to do things that are appeasing to the eye of the slave master, you will suffer grave consequences...Well, guess what?..Master Ozee has stuck again, he has suspended all of the kids who ran in the Lancaster Track meet for 60 days. YEAH...YOU HEARD ME SIXTY DAYS! Is there even 60 days left in the school term? That means no Texas Relays, no district, which ultimately means no regional or state. I hope and pray that all of the parents and other administrators throughout the State of Texas see what's going on here. I hope each and everyone of those kids in the athletic program turn in their equipment. If doesn't prove that they are out there on their on...nothing will.
This is nonsense. Ozee, Dorris, and the rest of those mofos are going to get theirs. God don't like wrong and injustice. If they have a problem with anything that's on this board, tell them to come and talk to me.
Unfortunately this situation has become dire. Drastic situations calls for drastic measures. With track season winding down quickly, I truly believe that there are two options that needs to be done sooner than later. UNLESS this guy allow ALL of the kids that he suspended for unsubstantiated rule(s) violations, the parents need to get involved and try to get a conference with the coaches, A.D. , principal, and/or superintendent or (2) , each and every one of the kids left should just quit running track. He has made it painfully obvious that he has no interest in what's best for the kids. To suspend Kennedy, Issac, Gabe, Reggie, and Jacoby for running unattached for the next 2-3 weeks then allow them to run at district, is only helping him. Kennedy, Issac, and Gabe are seniors who could use the Jesuit-Sheaner Relays and Texas Relays as an audition for recruiters. D'Ville, in my opinion only, can win district just by showing up. The schools in Irving are not historically known for track success. The only school who could possibly run with D'Ville will be Cedar Hill while SGP will be a distant 3rd. I find it amazing and mind numbing to try and figure out why these two individuals (Dorris and Tolbert) are sabotaging a chance to be a state champion and be considered one of the better track teams to run in Texas in a long time.
While I don't subscribe to quitting anything, I do believe in standing up for what is right. If Dorris doesn't feel the need to reinstate these kids then he shouldn't be given the chance to win a district championship. Without the proper preparation (i.e. track practice and competitive meets), these kids will head to regionals and get ran off the track. I'm afraid if that happens, based on his actions this year, he will wash his hands to the whole situation and throw the kids under the bus. If the remaining kids stand up and say that "this isn't right" he will be without a team. Without a track team to coach, he serves no purpose of being on staff. Once you serve no purpose, you're USUALLY released from your duties. The fruits of his actions are already being noticed and felt. Four (4) of the five (5) kids that did run this past weekend (@ TCU) all pulled or strained hamstrings including Josh. I guess Dorris hasn't figured out that word of mouth can put you out of business as well as put you in business. What do you think willl happen to his track program once word gets out about how he handled this year? He already doesn't have a 9th grade track team.
I think D`ville is doomed, There coach and the A.d don`t care about there track program.The a.d is all about there basketball team. y`all will have to wait for summer track to see Kennedy and Issac run again. It`s sad to say, D`ville has lost there mind. just to clear up there 4x4 time it was not 3:17. 90 the correct time is 3:17.1 I don`t know how it became 3:17.9. no drugs. they just really worked hard. we will know if the kids are kicked off the team by sometime tomorrow.
Without Kennedy and Isaac I just dont see Duncanville winning state in track for a long time, yea josh might get 3rd or 4th at state in the open 100 and 2nd or 3rd in the open 200 if he can beat Allens 200 runners in region 1-5A if he gets out and without Kennedy and Isaac I doubt there 4x2 might get out of regionals because everyone knows there 4x1 has no chance with Dre on there and there 4x4 cant win without Kennedy and Isaac even if you have either Kennedy or Isaac on there you need both to win, no one in the State is a better out the block runner other than Isaac on 1st leg and Kennedy is to me will be the fastest 400 runner in the state but as of now the 2nd fastest 400 runner in the state of texas and I hope the coaching staff at Duncanville can forgive these athletes again for the last time and give them the oppurtunity to win the title for them this year and punish them of course but not hurt the team by doing it because this might be the only year maybe for this whole decade that a track team has so much talent and can break so much records like The Duncanville Panther Track team boys of course for 2009 and led by a good coach who will be respected by many and his ATHLETES if he does things in the right way beneficial for him and his team.
Where was Duncanville at when the TSU Relays was going on they were the talk of the meet that nobody could go there 1:26 and 3:17 that they went in the wind they must have been on some roids going that 1:26 against the wind, or just the 2 legs that had to run against the wind had to be moving and strong.
What is up? Duncanville went 3:17:90 in the early part of the season, in the cold, against some wind and still has the fastest time in the state, so your telling me not even at T.S.U relays or any meet for that matter can aybody go faster than a 3:17:90 with warm weather, how did duncanville do it and this is the same question everybody in Texas keeps asking, where in the hell is there 4x4 at I havent heard of them run at any meets since and there 4x2?
Man Duncanville boys already going 1:26/3:17 at this point of the season most schools dont go that till district maybe even regionals, shoot maybe even state. If yall dont stay together as a team like everyone is saying, Josh, Kennedy, Isaac, Reggie, Gabe, Zay, Jamison, Akeem, Dre. Yall wont be nothing and this is yall year to do something crazy and im telling you this even though im from the school that is your rival.
100 percent right but i can hardly understand some spelling, how do you expect a coach to understand what your saying when you cant be clear and precise, I agree with you and hopefully Dorris will take some notes from all of this but try and type the words spelled correctly and understandable to a point where you wont have to struggle to get the concept.
We just wanna run for some kids who dont run in college they can at least say they was apart of Duncanville history 2009 is Duncanville time to rise and shine and ready for any competion thats all we want we dont want this drama we just wanna run b/c some of us this is are love if some atheltics will go out they way just to run and kno they might get in trouble dosent that tells you we have heart for this and we will not stop into we prove are point not just as a indivdual but as a team as a family coach dorris if u are on here u kno this is wrong and u kno how good we are u talked good about kennedy and about his 400 open you know he has a hella of a chance to win state and not running all the way into district that non no thats just crazy and jamison you didnt even want him or any of the other runners to run indoor but know you see that size dont mean nothing Duncanville have the most talent ever in years if u wanna be a coach be a coach and stop trying to be something else your job is to in couarge kids to do they best and to win state and right now u route you going you not doing neither one so its time to get on a good foot and stop playing favorties and be Duncanville High School Head Track School
And then you claim at first were immature and now since someone pretends to be you then you get ticked off and try to call us mature now so you can cover up your past comments we all know who you are dorris, your days are numbered especially what you have done with these kids.
Ok #1 4x4 Fan if it keeps offending you why are you so worried about it that makes us think you are dorris even more now and trying to talk good on Kennedy and Jamison wont cover it up.
Everyone, please overlook this childish immature nut that is still coming on here as the #1 4X4 fan and claiming to be Coach Dorris. I know all of you are smart enough to know when he comes on here. So, just ignore him. This situation is serious and sad, but he still finds humor in it. All of you mature Duncanville supporters who are not involved with this nut, please continue doing whatever you are doing to get the suspensions reduced. Any true track fan in the Dallas Metroplex was looking forward to seeing them run at the Texas Relays and the Jesuit-Sheaner Relays. Furthermore, all of this is over-shadowing Kennedy's performance in the open 400 meters Saturday. He took the defending state champ in the 400 meters, Kyle Clemmons, to the wire in which they both ran in the low 47's. And Jamison, you may not believe this, but there are some people/track fans that are happy for you and wish you well. They saw the heart that you displayed in the open 200 meters at the Arkansas Indoor Meet.
Thank you sir we really appreciate that and will act in the way you have mentioned for us to act as a team. The only problem is we wont have the team to go to Austin with in May and win if Kennedy and Issac get kicked off, we need them as much as they need us were like family in Duncanville if one or both of them are gone they cant be replaced and this is our year we may not never again have the oppurtunity to do something Amazing like the year 2009, and if someone messes with our family including a first year Assistant coach from red oak who doesent no anything and was barely picked because there was no one else and who was 5th in line and now is trying to currupt everything and even destroy trophies from previous coaches exaple (Coach Love and say lets move all this old S*** to the side and make some new history and have the guts to lie on athletes just to cover up his wrong doing and appoint an Associate Head Coach Beale Tolbert that thinks now that she is in the highest Authority and what ever she wants goes when she was never acting like this with the former coaches. All this angers us and makes us mad so were going to take it to a whole different level and go to the Athletic Director and to UIL because they dont know anything about the actions Coach Dorris and Tolbert have taken so Lancaster Coach there destroying our team. Good Luck to Lancaster and yourself as well and again Thank you.
I hope and pray that the situation in Duncanville gets resolved because they have the potential to be a great team. I am not going to take sides on this issue due to circumstances that I am involved in, but i do have something to say to the track athletes at this fine high school. I always tell my team what they accomplish is not for me. It belongs to them. What you put into it is what you get out of it. Run for each other. Win or lose as a team. Those are the things you will remember as you grow older. Pull together as a team and put the distractions aside. In the championships we have won, I did not see eye to eye with all of my athletes, but one thing they did do was care for each other. Focus on your teammates, not the issues you are up against. I wish you all success. Hopefully, I will see you celebrate in Austin in May. Good luck.
Since I am fed up with all this talk i will just be honest with you and tell you who I really am i am tired of hiding since everybody is attacking me and since I know so much about Eric Caro matter of fact I know his dad pretty well so im ready for all the attacks to come, I am Coach Dorris.
already lil bro, jamison you a beast and dont let know one get in your head and yall 4x4 still is what that is you, keem, issac and k-dog be murdering and all yall family so you cant let one get in trouble and i heard in that meeting they had with issac that coach tolbert and dorris were just making him look bad and lying and trying to change up there words when he asked them if they ever told him to not run and go home when coach dorris said dville was not going to the meet and they were loving every bit of when issac's daddy was yelling at him and threatning to hit him if he tried to express himself and they were lying saying that its up to UIL when its really up to them, they hoed Issac but they aint bout to hoe him for much longer cuz me and some other people bout to make this a big seen and ima tell dorris to step in my square and get murked in these hands with his jacked up shoulder and i need hair growth bald headed looking azz.
My God, This is just ridiculous, I am so upset right now, i been praying for this kids @ duncanville. i hope something come out of this.these coaches can not get away with this.my heart goes out 2 Issac Ogunlade in how he was treated in the meeting with coaches and his parents. I was talking to some college coaches last night. they were like WOW!! . for the summer track coaches great good college said, u are the one that keeps these kids in the good condition. and they do feel a lot of high school coaches have no clue.
one coach i talk to last week told me that he talk with coach tolbert during cross country season she was bad mouthing the summer track coaches. he feels if she say that what will see say about the athletes. he feels she can not be trusted. she seem fake to him. he said alot of kids that they recuited have or has ran summer track. keep up the good work Summer Track coaches for volunteering your time for our kids of tomorrow.
Anonmous Official,
Thank you for your insight on this matter. I have been wrecking my brain trying to figure out how the decision and action(s) of the kids who ran could be deemed a suspendable offense. Again, all these kids wanted to do was participate and compete against schools that were either on their level of ability or superior than they are as opposed to the teams they have been going against in recent weeks. At no point when the decision was made by the coaches not to run was the words "You are not allowed to run" or "do not go to Lancaster and attempt to run" or anything of that magnitude ever uttered. I find it unexplainable that you have your track team report to the school by 9:00 in the morning (some arrived as early as 7:00) and you don't arrive until 11:00 only to tell them that they will not participate that day. That's not cool at all!
It is from my understanding, that Coach Dorris and Coach Tolbert is attempting to use the UIL and their rules as a way to steer clear of any controversy. It is also my understanding that they have decided to sit the kids in question for the next 3-4 track meets until the district track meet. I find this as a horrible self-indulging act. Within those meets, the kids will miss theTexas Relays and Jesuit-Sheaner Relays. If you know anything about Texas track, you are fully aware that the stands will be packed with recruiters. By doing this, these so-called adults are taking the ability from these kids to perform so they could possibly get scholarship offers. Allowing these kids to come back for the district track is garbage. You don't need them leading up to district but you need them for district. Can someone please tell me how this fair.
Anyway, if anyone has some information as far further actions that can taken, please email me at . At that time, I will let you know who I am and maybe we can do something about this. Please no-nonsense.
Thanks
Im not scared to say what I wanna say all I know that the coaches at duncanville underestimate me all day 24/7 when they saw me the first time they never saw me as one of there main runners yea I ran 50.2 at the samauel meet with no push but im not going to let that be my excusse for nothing I will go 48 in the 4by4 or the open 400 thats a bet this was the year for Duncanville to take everthing this was are year to win state only my summer track team believed in me from the very benging then when I ran the 4by4 at district they took me to regionals then state I waited a 4 years for this very moment and im not going to let anybody take that away from me we are a family at duncanville and if u messing with one of us u messing with all of us o yea and desto im ready 4 yall so get ready 2 see my short legs move lol
Those comments below are quite harsh and over doing to an extent, that is not necessary regardless of your envy or hate, that is just taking it to far. But on the other hand Coach Dorris's action to summon the UIL to act upon the incident that occured this past weekend at the 2009 Lancaster Meet of Champions, will not stand, according to UIL this is not an offense against UIL nor any athletic policy because the directors of the meet and coaches would have not allowed the athletes to participate if it was because after a certain time on 3-13-09 and before sping break is in effect UIL is off and anybody is eligible to run. So this false reports of Dorris and who ever this coach that everybody keeps saying he associates with whom by the name of Coach Tolberet cannot get any order from UIL ruling, this act upon the decisons of the students fate really lies with them and they have been lying and making false notations to the athletes and there parents that it is up for the UIL to decide but really they will make the decesion but there have been some emails and phone calls directed to UIL about this incident and if things turn out somehow negatively for the student athletes according to my sources things might not look to good for Duncanville's Athletic Director and or Head Track Coach.
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Calm down Young man. people going say what they wanna say. you know the turth that`s all that matters.u are a good runner and i know u try pretty hard . u can not please everybody. please yourself first. u have alot of people that`s cheering for u. and i am one of them. do you that`s all u can do.and watch who u talk 2 everyone is not you. they may act it . devil @ work trying to destroy you. let it roll off your back.
I said that comment below im not the anonomous coward i just dident put my name in the box below so thats why anonomous coward came up below, so dont get it wrong, ill tell you who i am when i say something.
Dang coach dorris, when people be talkin down on you on this website im the only one who tell them to get of your sack and leave you alone for example this an old comment i wrote a long time ago "Damn stop talking about me i thought this talk is all over, get a life who ever this coach is, damn and get of k-dog as well i sware u be stalking us cuz i know for sure u aint our summer track coach cuz he doesent have time to talk online if he has to say something he'll say to your face, and yall get off cdorris i mean we just running indoor to get better for school track and for more scouts to get at us he disagrees with that but that doesent mean chew him out and call him names and crap i mean you act like he doesent know what he's doing at all, look guys he coached to state champion throwers i think he can coach state champion runners as well, and dont worry bout what i went in indoor yall just get yall popcorn ready for outdoor cuz us and desoto going 1 and 2 representing north texas, so i be taking up for you and everything and then you lie on me infront of my parents and you let coach tolbert make me borrowing somebodys running shoes a big deal and let her act as if i were a thief, and she said i called her stupid when i just said its common sense in that note last year and you were just smiling laughing and you loved every bit of it, and you know i lied about running but the other stuff you two just made me look bad and you act like i left a disrepecful message on your phone but it was really about coach tolbert and you knew what you was doing, I know you be coming on here so i want you to read this and see how wrong you did me. Yall was lying and lying and loving every bit of it, but its all good though, i wont let it effect me ima just do me and what ever happens will happen I already went to state so im going down in history regardless even though i wanted to win state this time but hey some people are cruel like that I thought you was cool and everything but i thought wrong.
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Coach said: “yes as soon as possible, matter of fact starting tomorrow, and by the way whos gonna take over the program when they get released and everybody read this, #1 4x4 fan says "Duncanville Parent, I can't agree with you more when you said that Coach Dorris is running away from the heat. Although, I call it ducking. As you said, with the talent on that team, there is no need for Duncanville to duck anyone in the state. However, it could be a difference in philosophy, which I don't agree with. There are some coaches out there that think they are doing their track team a favor by not putting them in competitive track meets week in and week out. They like to say that they want their team to peak at the end of the season. I've never believed in this. I believe if you have crisp, short work-outs with timed intervals instead of long untimed marathon work-outs, your runners should always be fresh and their times should come down every week. Then as the season goes on, you should cycle back the workouts and give a day off every now and then if needed. Since a lot of coaches don't do this, some believe that running in the "garbage meets" early will allow their team to peak at the right time. Well, the argument against doing it that way is the 2007 year. Desoto, Lancaster, and Cedar Hill 4x4's all ran against each other most of the year. The three of them had some exiting races and I loved it. But, they did not peak early. All three ran their fastest times at the State Meet in which they had the top three times in the state that year. Desoto and Cedar Hill finished 1st and 2nd in 5A and Lancaster won 4A. Someone stated on this blog earlier that Duncanville's 4x4 would not post fast times early and would peak at District, Regionals, and the State Meet. This could be what Coach Dorris is doing, I don't know. I just know that I don't agree with that philosophy. So guys the person who keeps coming on here as the #1 4x4 fan is really Coach Dorris himself.”
This Duncanville thing is getting ridiculous. And, some of it has to do with some of you Duncanville supporters. First off, I AM NOT COACH DORIS!!!! I don't have anything to do with Duncanville. I am a track fan, and I love the 4x400 meter relay. If anyone can read, they would have been able to determine that I was disagreeing with Coach Doris's decision not to run against competition. And, since I am a mature adult, I offered a possible and reasonable explanation why he or some coaches would chose not to run against competition. I blatantly said that I totally disagree with that philosophy and offered reasons, facts, and examples why. So, for someone to conclude from my comments that I am Coach Doris is insane and totally beyond me. They must have a vendetta against me for some of my past comments, as well as for Coach Doris. This is sad because I have not at one time attacked anyone on here. Then to make matters worse, you have a knucklehead (which was probably the same person) come on here and enter his name as the #1 4X4 Fan and talk as if he is Coach Doris. UNF**KINGBELIEVABLE!!!! That's jacked up on two levels. I understand that you guys are upset with Coach Doris's actions and methods. Heck, I don't agree with a lot of them. But, to stoop this low shows a lack of maturity and definitely integrity. Let me say it another way, 'Somebody has some serious issues.' Guys whether you realize it or not, as the Duncanville Runner said, you are actually making matters worse. By trying to show up Coach Doris, you are making one of the best track teams in the state of Texas a laughing stock. Guys or guy, (I actually think its one person) if you are adults, you need to set a positive example for the kids that you support and evidently care a great deal about. They have shown way more maturity then what you have shown (especially Isaac). I know this is not going to change you over night. But, please find other methods of fighting your battles with Coach Doris and don't stoop to this insane nonsense. Hopefully, if there are suspensions, they will only be for one week. With Desoto running a 3:19 without their best runner Eric Caro, the whole Dallas Metroplex would love to see these two 4x400 meter relays meet head to head. And for the record, it is a friendly competition. Isaac and Eric Caro were seen having a friendly chat at the Lancaster meet.
We were all pumped for the next day, got a good night sleep, stretched throughly the day before and were focused, some of us even came up to the school around 6:45 and was up there for about 4 hours and the late people were in waiting for close to 2 hours waiting for coach dorris, then all of a sudden they told us we were not going because the weather and they didn't want to risk injury, then all of a sudden the sun starts to come out around 2 P:M around the time the meet was supposed to start anyway we all could have just stretched and warm up in the lancaster indoor facility and waited there until the meet started like we did for our own meet when we stayed in teh turf room, so when got news the meet was cancelled we were mad that all the preparation we did was for nothing and all this waiting was for nothing, so i have in question that its not because of the weather it was because of something else but will just leave that to take care of itself so we just decided to act on ourselves and see where we were going to be at against comp so when we do race against good teams we wont get embarassed or shocked, so thats why we did what we did but who ever keeps coming on here as #14x4 fan and kevin ozee need to chill because coach dorris and ozee would have enuff sense not to come on here and talk like that so your pretty much making it worse and Anonomous coward about some lady telling the news station hey coach dorris put it upon himself so what ever happens happens and i even here parents and students will go to uil and make some petitions. None of this crap took place last year with coach love because we were a team and coach love would never do this stuff and he built this program so i hope none of these coaches take credit for our times dropping so with all said and done i hope things change soon or else this once great track program has just been currupted.
KEVIN OZEE IS NOT THAT STUPID 2 GET ON HERE TALKIN ABOUT THESE BLACK PEOPLE. SO WHOEVER U R BUST YOUR OWN SELF SIDE THE HEAD. AND GET OFF OF HERE PLAYING LIKE THAT U 2 4X4FAN.
#14X4 FAN , U R REALLY FUNNY, HAHAHAAAAAAAAA. NNNNOTT.
THIS NEWS HAS TRAVELED TO CALI AND NEW YORK ABOUT DUNCANVILLE AND THE COACHING STAFF. THEY R SAYIN WHY IS THE COACHE(S) STILL THERE. I TALK 2 APARENT . SHE ALREADY CONTACTED THE NEWS STATION AND GETTING PARENTS TOGETHER TO TAKE ON D`VILLE. SHE SAID IT WILL GET SHUT DOWN. SHE SAID SHE DON`T CARE DUNCANVILLE DON`T EVER HAVE A TRACK PROGRAM AGAIN. DUNCANVILLE WILL BE ON THE NEWS . HOLD TIGHT . SINCE THE COACHES WANTS TO BE THAT WAY AND SHE IS GONNA BE THIS WAY. AND I`M ON BOARD. I HATE THAT IT HAS 2 COME TO THIS. GOT 2 DO WHAT WE GOT 2 DO.
and now since we dont have our 4x2 and 4x4 runners anymore now we can forget about texas relays and my dreams of being coach of the year and especially next year because reggie reed is going to transfer anyway and thats why i dont want to release his papers anyway because im cool with the old red oak coach and he said reggie got kicked off of there team anyway.
and guys dont you love how my face gets red in practice when i get mad and thats why were not going to the carter shootout because im racist and i just want to go to jesuit because they have a good grill for the coaches lol so much evil isnt it
and i lied on joy chadwick and chrishauna williams in court and thats why they cant run on varsity and i thought they were going to be at the meet to so i didnt want them to embarass our jv girls lol so much evil isnt it.
The reason i cancelled the meet is because im scared of competion at this point of the season and when i found out desoto was going to be at the meets i was really scared then so me and my best buddy coach tolbert decided to tell the kids were not going after we told them to come up to the school at 10 and some kids were up there at as early as 6:45 then we had them wait for an hour and a half and then tell them were not going so evil isnt it, i just want to imitate rowlett and be like there head coach thats all i want to i can be the coach of the year and thats why i destroyed track dogz and the plaque that josh harris brought out to practice one day, so i hid the plaque because i wanted them to forget about it and thats why im just in so much authority like that and i went to all these coaching camps because i didnt know how to coach in the first place and still dont ask the U.T.A coach for example he knows what im talking about.
I had no choice in giving the job to coach dorris he was the only option left the others declined because of money issues so thats why he was hired but i love that comment below coach dorris, cuz these black people dont realize were in charge here not them ha ha ha
I am coach dorris and i just want to win state and get all the credit ha ha ha, i care less about the athletes and there club coaches because me and coach tolbet are best buddies and run this and we represent texas tech so forget everybody and yea baby im the best texas tech wide out ever and crabtree has nothing on me, matter of fact i still hold the most touchdowns in a game baby for texas tech, ya digg
yea he did everybody thought he was josh harris at first, but yea the#1 4x4 fan knows not to come back on this blog again everyone knows who he is now coach dorris.
GGGooood Morning Everybody, THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN 2 DA DUNCANVILLE DRAMA SHOW." ON TODAY NEWS". IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THE COACH WILL BE SUSPENDING THE ATHLETE`S THAT RAN IN THE LANCASTER MEET. COACH DORRIS AND TOLBERT WILL BE MEETING WITH THE DUNCANVILLE TRACK TEAM THIS MORNING AROUND 10:30AM ABOUT THERE FUTURE MEETS IF ANY. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO DA COACHES "YOUR ATHLETE DON`T HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU NOR THE PARENTS AND FANS. AND IF YOU ARE LISTEN COACH DORRIS. TURN YOURSELF IN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF D`VILLE AND TAKE YOUR PUPPY DOG 2". THAT`S ALL THE NEWS 2 DAY, SO STAY TUNE FOR DA DUNCANVILLE DRAMA SHOWWWWWW.
yes as soon as possible, matter of fact starting tomorrow, and by the way whos gonna take over the program when they get released and everybody read this, #1 4x4 fan says "Duncanville Parent, I can't agree with you more when you said that Coach Dorris is running away from the heat. Although, I call it ducking. As you said, with the talent on that team, there is no need for Duncanville to duck anyone in the state. However, it could be a difference in philosophy, which I don't agree with. There are some coaches out there that think they are doing their track team a favor by not putting them in competitive track meets week in and week out. They like to say that they want their team to peak at the end of the season. I've never believed in this. I believe if you have crisp, short work-outs with timed intervals instead of long untimed marathon work-outs, your runners should always be fresh and their times should come down every week. Then as the season goes on, you should cycle back the workouts and give a day off every now and then if needed. Since a lot of coaches don't do this, some believe that running in the "garbage meets" early will allow their team to peak at the right time. Well, the argument against doing it that way is the 2007 year. Desoto, Lancaster, and Cedar Hill 4x4's all ran against each other most of the year. The three of them had some exiting races and I loved it. But, they did not peak early. All three ran their fastest times at the State Meet in which they had the top three times in the state that year. Desoto and Cedar Hill finished 1st and 2nd in 5A and Lancaster won 4A. Someone stated on this blog earlier that Duncanville's 4x4 would not post fast times early and would peak at District, Regionals, and the State Meet. This could be what Coach Dorris is doing, I don't know. I just know that I don't agree with that philosophy. So guys the person who keeps coming on here as the #1 4x4 fan is really Coach Dorris himself.
We need to get a petition and/or emails going and present them to the powers that be. Whether it's to the principal, A.D., even though he's the one who hired this assistant coach from Red Oak, or to the Superintendant. Somebody with some power needs to know what's going on and can hopefully make some changes before the district track meet which is scheduled to be held @ Duncanville.
Thank u coach 4 the infor.what can we do to get Tolbert and Dorris out of D`ville? And is it true that the athletes has to pay next year to do any sports? da kids @ d`ville has no respect for there coach. This coach told them on there spring break , that they can`t play football, basketball, practice with there summer track coach(s) or play madden or anyother game. What is his problem? oh i heard Desoto coach was da one who pulled the plug on d`ville running yesterday. this a sad situation:(
marquise goodwin and marquise frazier were talkin down on Josh Harris saying he was talking all that noise and was scared of comp and there 4x1, 4x2 and 4x4 were all pu-ssy a$$ scary nig-gaz
damn duncanville i heard the desoto coach snitched on yall damn people dont mind there own buisness sometimes and just want to win easier but damn i feel for yall d'ville yall should all just transfer to different schools but its to late for that.
you are 100% right and i respect you and your statement Duncanville parent and some actions need to be taken right now. And with "the real head track coach" beale tolbert there are some rumors that she has something against beverly humprhey lancaster's girls head track coach from years of the past when she was coaching at aledo this may be a factor as well why they made a stupid decision.
I am very disappointed in the actions of Duncanville's Head Track Coach, Derek Dorris. This latest act, of his, has all but guaranteed an email will be sent to the people he has to answer. His ego has become so disruptive that he is losing, if he already hasn't already lost, his track team's trust and respect. To make a decision to pull his track team from a meet because "he didn't want them to risk injury" is insane. To claim that the weather was a factor in his decision doesn't hold water...especially when you consider that he allowed his track team to run in track meets the previous three weeks when the weather was worse as far as wind and cold. When you take into account the type of meets that this man has entered his track team, there is no doubt in my eyes and opinion that this man is ducking.....skirting.....hiding...from competition. It has always been my believe that it is the responsibility of a person in an instructional position at an educational facility , whether it be a teacher/professor, principal/president, and/or coach, to educate, motivate, and create an atmosphere condusive to learning and developing invididuals so they may become successful. This clown has not done any of it. He is not training these kids in a way where they are challenged nor is he allowing these kids to participate in meets where they are developing against competition that are their peer. To participate in a track meet against teams that you beat by 50+ meters in the 4x2 and 4x4 is garbage. Now he/she will tell you that 6-8 teams cancelled the night before...ok, what happened to the other 16-18 teams??? You told your kids that 24 teams would be there.
This so-called man has destroyed plagues and trophies in front kids left by the previous coach(es) while stating "I'm tired of this old tihs...it's time to create some new history"...HUH?! He has created a chaotic, resentful, and hostile situation between some of his better runners..both still enrolled and transferred from D'ville. Since the end of yesterday's meet, I have heard that he plans on suspending some of the guys who took part in the Lancaster meet. EGO!
With having a track team that consist of kids that could be considered one of the better teams to come out of the Dallas area, he should welcome competition. Instead he would rather build up his trophy case. That's probably one of the reasons that the 2nd largest high school in the nation doesn't field a 9th grade track team. ARE YOU SERIOUS?! I believe that the AD needs to get this man out before it's too late..then again, it was Ozee's fault that we are in this situation in the first place..
Bottom line?...unless things change and I mean quickly, all D'Ville supporters on this blog is going to have to sit back and watch this thing crash and burn before it was able to get up off the ground.
For anyone who wants it, here is the email addresses and phone #s of the people who you wish to complain to or about..Good luck!
Derek Dorris, Head Track Coach - 972-708-2162
Beale Tolbert, "The Real" Head Track Coach- 972-708-2196
Kevin Ozee, A.D. who only cares about the basketball program - 972.708.2150
people should go to the school board and ask for the Administrative leave of Derek Dorris and Beale Tolbert, why because you lie on in court on some of your former athletes who decided to transfer and now the cant run on varsity the whole year and they should because the can beat every girl on duncanvilles track team i mean middle school girls are faster than them, and second now some boy track team runners decided to take it upon themselves and run unattched because there coaches dont give a damn about them and force them to come up to the school and wait and hour and a half and get the news that there team cant go, duncanville was the only team that didnt participate, and now it looks like without there 4x2, 4x4 and hurdles no state championship buddy, and next year there not going to have anyone so coach dorris and tolbert have just fuc*ked themselves up and there track team.
If it is against uil rules to run without your team or coach why did the lancaster head coach and the director of the meet allow them to run, you know why because its not and they all ran unattached and if it was they would have not let them run so all this trying to sugar coat things just makes it worse for Duncanville's so called head coach, come on let the kids run this is there year to win state and smash some records especially in the 4x2 and 4x2, open 4, open 1 and hurdles, and 800
Fan you sound like coach dorris to me i dont know i just have a feeling its you, and yes the coached put it upon himself that the kids decided to act like grown adults and take some responsibilty to run and see where there at, because you dont have to win every regular meet to make a statement, it really counts untill district, regionals, and state, thats what coach loves system was last year for duncanville but now this new coach wants to make a name for himself and get coach of the year or something its not really about the kids but himself and his associate coach who runs him and really runs the whole team Beale Tolbert.
D `ville coach decided not 2 run, because the weather was not going to be good.that`s what he said. i have a cousin that run for them. i personally think that he had something else to do or got scared. because D`ville was ready to run. the team was not scared , but the coach I don`t know. he`s not agood coach he is a joke.
Do I even have to say anything, yesterdays meet was crazy and off the chain, desoto did there thing 3:19 4x4 i think number 2 or 3 in state, and lancaster rolled 4x2, and kendall and tyler were amazing in the hurdles both going 13.7's and marquise frazier and goodwin put on a show in the 100 both going 10.2 and all of this F.A.T but where in the hell was duncanville the team everyone came to watch especially Josh Harris in the open 1, there 4x2 was the talk of the meet because were like where are they and there 4x4 thats what everyone came for even people from out of town just to see Duncanville run and they did'nt even show up, it looks like there all scared of competion and the weather or something i mean if you look at the forcast the day before and pay attention, it basically says showers in the morning they highs if 57 in the afternoon with 5-10 miles per hour of wind, the weather was just fine something is not right here and i think something crazy is going down. None of this happened last year i really dont know what the problem is does anyone else know?
It's going down in Lancaster today, baby! As the old folks say, "if you want $%^ you gotta bring *&^. All this gum bumping that been going on is about to come to a head. No rain...no wind..just a damp track. Let's see who comes back on here with an excuse.
Same to you Eastern Hills hope tiny and david can lead eastern hills and do some great things, all yall stay healthy and hopefully we can both put on a show at the texas relays, good luck and everyone please get off our jocks theres a whole lot of other teams who be wrecking as well were just blessed to go 3:17 this past saturday, and life continues we all look forward to getting better so everyone lets move on from the past and all this noise talking and disrespecting one another and lets all just run and have a great time.
Epps said: “Kennedy and Isaac from Duncanville kind of remind me of Scott and Scotty Aralako from Arlington Bowie, They may not be real life twins but they sure look alike Scott the faster of the 2 ran 1st for Bowie's 4x4 last year and Scotty ran 4th I dont know how Duncanville has there legs but a 3:17 already thats a good job I think thats probably number one in the nation or 2 something like that and of course number one in the state but good job Duncanville and do you guys still have your same relay from last year i think so because Isaac, Kennedy i dont recall the other 2 young men but those 4 boys put on a show last year at regionals last year Isaac there 1st leg put them in 1st and had eveyone in the stands on there feet after scott dropped the stick then there 2nd leg ran pretty good untill the last straight away then desoto's north crowley and south lakes 2nd leg took the lead, then there 3rd leg caught southlake and northcrowley back on the last curve to the last straight then kennedy had everyone in the even more pumped up when nobody thought duncanville would come out of the blue to beat desoto's 3:16 in the prelims and duncanville went 3:18 and shocked everyone when kennedy caught Isah Muhammad and they went 3:15, so a 3:17 already who knows what they will go come time for state...”
Coach Epps, did Scott and Scotty sign anywhere at the end of last year?
The two middle kids in between Issac and Kennedy at the regional and state meets were: Leg #2, Gabe Castillo and #3 Reggie Reed. Issac and Kennedy are both running the same legs as last year but the middle legs are different..at least for now, anyway. the 2nd leg is being held down by Akeem Banks and 3rd leg Jamsion Green.
That 3:17 is fast at this time and that's what worries me. I'm hoping that don't burnout before it's time...
Kennedy and Isaac from Duncanville kind of remind me of Scott and Scotty Aralako from Arlington Bowie, They may not be real life twins but they sure look alike Scott the faster of the 2 ran 1st for Bowie's 4x4 last year and Scotty ran 4th I dont know how Duncanville has there legs but a 3:17 already thats a good job I think thats probably number one in the nation or 2 something like that and of course number one in the state but good job Duncanville and do you guys still have your same relay from last year i think so because Isaac, Kennedy i dont recall the other 2 young men but those 4 boys put on a show last year at regionals last year Isaac there 1st leg put them in 1st and had eveyone in the stands on there feet after scott dropped the stick then there 2nd leg ran pretty good untill the last straight away then desoto's north crowley and south lakes 2nd leg took the lead, then there 3rd leg caught southlake and northcrowley back on the last curve to the last straight then kennedy had everyone in the even more pumped up when nobody thought duncanville would come out of the blue to beat desoto's 3:16 in the prelims and duncanville went 3:18 and shocked everyone when kennedy caught Isah Muhammad and they went 3:15, so a 3:17 already who knows what they will go come time for state...
whatever Desoto `s finest, If u kept your big mouth shut and stop talking some much mess, u would not be yelling.but anyway u put it out there for everyone else to read. " IF U CAN`T TAKE THE HEAT, THEN GET THE HELL OUT DA KITCHEN."just do yo thang. stop talking about it be about, People will respect u more.
when we will all stop this noise talkin probably never cuz when the other team beats another then there will be more lol i hope you young men can act a little bit mature and the lancaster meet im even scared there might be a fight being broke out between lancaster, dville, and desoto whats going on here all this started at regionals last year just because duncanville beat desoto but desoto came back and beat them at state even though both team times were 2-3 seconds slower but lets all make a commitment to end all this talk right here on this last comment and let this all just go down in history, any body with me? if you are lets end it hear.
BRO I WAS NOT GONNA REPLY NO MORE BUT ANONYMOUS COWARD IS GETTIN ON MY NERVES...U COMIN AT ME LIKE IMMA PUNK OR SOMETHIN WEN YO NAME IS ANONYMOUS COWARD!!U FRIENDLY BRO I SWEAR...U BETTA NOT PUT YO NAME OUT THERE...I WASNT TALKIN TO U SO KEEP ME AND MY TEAMMATES,PREFERABLY DESOTO OUTTA YO MOUTH...AND AINT NO HO IN MY BLOOD IMMA LET THA TIMES DO THA TALKIN SO IM REALLY THRU THIS TIME...AND THIS AINT NO TRAUN OR MARCUS AND DONT WORRY BOUT IT U MIGHT FIND OUT THE HARD WAY!!
We did not go 1:24 it was 1:28 and I will give the 4x2 and 4x4 credit to Duncanville for right now not for long, as eliete runners we need to set the example by not trashing each other out and by proving ourselves on the track like I and the Duncanville 4x2/4x4 runner and Anonymous Coward are trying to say. I really dont know who the Desoto's Finest person really is but bro we go it just chill and lets show what we got the same to you traun and no need to know who i really am im just trying to show leadership and maturity and set an example but good luck to everyone including us, lancaster, duncanville, rowlett, denton guyer, skyline, waxahachie. fortworth easternhills and the other elite teams in the area going for something much more than props or fame, State Champions.
Shut the hell up!!!!!!!!!! Desoto Finest, u talkin all this smack, u and your team going to fool around and get beat. I`can`t wait to c the dumb look on your face, when your doors get blown off. I loved to see a great race and like alot of high school teams, but desoto is getting on my nerves. kennedy ,issac ,and josh has not said anything about u or anybody else. they r doing the smart thing by puttin it on the track. let your legs do the talking BIG MOUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................
The same to you I will expect more from you Since you are Desoto's Finest and i dont even think you are Traun because you sound like a Marcus Stafford but whoever it is oh well, and trust me I know a whole lot more about track than you ever will, and without reggie we will win we just went 1:26 and 3:17 without him, the 4x1 like I stated is coming up so just be patient anyways good luck and i will keep my eyes especially on Traun Roberson and Marcus Stafford.
Duncanville said: “first of all reggie came back the only reason he left is because he moved, now he is back he cant run on varsity for the whole year due to uil rules and now because of that there is beastlier than ever, and 2nd what 2 runners can beat duncanville's 400 best please dont say Eric Caro and D'odrick because they cant mess with Kennedy, Kennedy is going to split 46 trust me by state and another thing yall are going to win state in the 4x4 lol, Duncanville is all ready going 3:17 while yall are going 3:22 with push and Duncanville's going 3:17 with no push and how are yall also going to match up with its 1st leg on the 4x4 who trust me as well is going 47 earlier than you think matter of fact he went 48 flat last week in the cold out the blocks, and lastly buddy no no no Goodwin will not beast Josh trust me on that trust me matter of fact before I forget Josh will Roll your ass and put a gap on you and look back on you and say pick it up.”
ENUFF SAID U R EMBARRASSING YOURSELF EVERY ONE OF DESOTO'S RELAYS WILL BEAT DUNCANVILLES...IM TIRED OF GOING BACK AND FORTH WIT SOMEBODY WHO DONT KNOW NOTIN AT ALL AND PROBABLY DONT EVEN RUN TRACK THEMSELVES...YALL BETTA CHEAT AND PUT REGGIE ON THE RELAY OR ELSE ITS OVER THATS MY LAST COMMENT ON HERE IM GONNA LET THE TIMES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES NOW...U BETTA BACK UP ALL THIS STUFF U TALKIN ..
right now Desoto #1 in the nation at a 1:24.76 Duncanville#2 in the nation at a 1:26.86Rowlett #3 at a 1:27:29, and North Shore, TX #4 at a 1:27:60, for the 4x4 #1 in the nation is Miami Northwestern at a 3:17:30 # 2 in the nation Duncanville at a 3:17:90 # 3 in the nation Miami Carol at a 3:19:31 and number 4 in the nation Katy cinco Ranch at a 3:20:19 all of these rankings at Milesplit.com
first of all reggie came back the only reason he left is because he moved, now he is back he cant run on varsity for the whole year due to uil rules and now because of that there is beastlier than ever, and 2nd what 2 runners can beat duncanville's 400 best please dont say Eric Caro and D'odrick because they cant mess with Kennedy, Kennedy is going to split 46 trust me by state and another thing yall are going to win state in the 4x4 lol, Duncanville is all ready going 3:17 while yall are going 3:22 with push and Duncanville's going 3:17 with no push and how are yall also going to match up with its 1st leg on the 4x4 who trust me as well is going 47 earlier than you think matter of fact he went 48 flat last week in the cold out the blocks, and lastly buddy no no no Goodwin will not beast Josh trust me on that trust me matter of fact before I forget Josh will Roll your ass and put a gap on you and look back on you and say pick it up.
D'Ville Supporter said: “Really?! "no wind at his back"...dude the wind has been blowing all week. Most of the time, when the wind is gusting, as it has all week, the 100 meters, 110 hurdles, and 200 meters is usually ran with wind. Oh I get it, when Twon ran his race, the powers that be decided to calm the winds down for him...PLEASE!
And you're right, I didn't mention the 4x1...just as I notice that you failed to speak about your famous 4x4. The 4x1 wasn't worth speaking about because we are struggling right now. We won it but the time wasn't impressive (a high 42). Hopefully, once Zay and Chayse get in shape, we're be able to roll out a 41 point w/o Josh. Now that's a track team. Are you guys able to say that Desoto can rock the 4x1, 4x2, and the 4x4 w/o having their top sprinter running on only one of the relays? Don't think so!!!”
OK 1st of all whoever this josh nut rider is , is obviously not attending school because u r illiterate!!!Its TRAUN not TWON learn to read before u have his baby!! 2nd of all our j.v is runnin mid 42's and dont tell me nothin bout who yall dont got(Zavian Handy LMAO)!!!Stop makin excuses!!!Desoto can run any relay missing a top runner and still dominate...(For instance Eric Caro and Adrian white)I know u heard of them..Our 4x4 is still gonna win state dont worry and we have 2 400 runners that can beat yalls best...obviously yall have nothin going for yall thats why reggie left lol!!Signin out...p.s. please stay off of josh's nuts for once...everyone knows goodwin is gonna roll his ass...and everyone elses
Desotos finest said: “Well great job whoa im really impressed(SARCASM)....Traun did that with basically no wind at his back...and this is josh last chance...he is a senior and anyways i dont hear u sayin notin bout 4x1.i bet i know why..because no matter who is on yalls relay desoto is still going to beat yall!!Oh yeah and Traun didnt run through that 100 cuz guess wat??he was bouta run the 4x2 that went 1.24 the week b4!!!next time b4 u talk make sure yo relay can break into at least low 42 lmao LETS GO EAGLES!!!”
Really?! "no wind at his back"...dude the wind has been blowing all week. Most of the time, when the wind is gusting, as it has all week, the 100 meters, 110 hurdles, and 200 meters is usually ran with wind. Oh I get it, when Twon ran his race, the powers that be decided to calm the winds down for him...PLEASE!
And you're right, I didn't mention the 4x1...just as I notice that you failed to speak about your famous 4x4. The 4x1 wasn't worth speaking about because we are struggling right now. We won it but the time wasn't impressive (a high 42). Hopefully, once Zay and Chayse get in shape, we're be able to roll out a 41 point w/o Josh. Now that's a track team. Are you guys able to say that Desoto can rock the 4x1, 4x2, and the 4x4 w/o having their top sprinter running on only one of the relays? Don't think so!!!
Man lets not get to big headed now Duncanville we did our thing in the 4x2 and 4x4 and the 4x1 is coming up there, so lets just prove our selves on the track and let are feet do the talking for us so whoever keep bragging about us runner or coach whoever lets just show our support and talents by doing work on the track and good job as well desoto its good to have 2 or 3 teams in the are who can push each other because to be real our goal is to win state right so lets do that and dont forget about Rowlett there bringing it two and Isaac, Josh and Kennedy did there thing as well as everyone else because were a team and we win as a team so go Panthers!!!/Track Dogz baby.
and by the way mr Traun Roberson from Desoto this is a 4x4 topic film not 4x1 or 4x2 and plus you are not humble at all you sound y and proud Desoto's Finest= wow
maybe duncanville aint a 4x1 team anymore or maybe some guys arent stepping up but who cares Josh Harris will murder you my freind senior or no senior plus he got hurt last year and is making up the meets he missed last year by clowining this year so its all hand in hand and yall never went 1:24 buddy it was 1:28 everyone in the state knows that and plus duncanville went 1:26 with a 23.2 with the wind on his back so imagine if he comes off the relay and is replaced and Isaac going 21.9 split on 2nd leg FACING THE WIND, kennedy going 21.5 on 4th FACING THE WIND and boy o boy Josh going 19.98 out the blocks and plus there 3:17 was with no push 48 on 1st 50 points on 2nd and 3rd and 48 on last, just imagine those 50 points dropping and just wait when Zavian Handy Duncanville's 1st leg 4x1 rolls yall 1st leg and when Chayse comes back on 2nd who is another beast entirely and Gabe at 3rd and "The" Josh Harris AKA Arch Bishop at 4th your mouth will get shut.
yall r getting on my last nerve, wit all this trash talk. u gonna fool around a team that u least expect gonna beat you. do u know new york , florida and california r running time that will put u to shame. guys up there are running 46 in the 400. so either put up or shut the hell up.
D'Ville Supporter said: “Hey Traun...Twon or whatever your name is...while you busy eating I got something for you to swallow. Check it out..
I just went to one of the worst track meets ever assembled. It was a track meet hosted by Samuel who had all of 5...that's FIVE teams there. Let's see I believe the teams were Molina, Trinity Christian, Parish Episopal, Duncanville, and Samuel, of course.
1) D'Ville went 1:26 in the 4x2;
2) D'ville went 3:17 in the 4x4; by the way, Isaac went low 48 out of the blocks:
3) JHarris went 10.2 in the 100 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 10.4
4) JHarris went 21.4 in the 200 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 21.6
So while you lamenting about your 1:28 because you were missing a leg (btw, I love it when you clowns mention that you are always missing a runner here and there like that's suppose to mean something. How many do you have? There's only four on a relay...somebody is going to be missing every week) just know that it still isn't the 1:24 that you claimed last week and D'ville ran their times against themselves basically..
Now eat that player!”
Well great job whoa im really impressed(SARCASM)....Traun did that with basically no wind at his back...and this is josh last chance...he is a senior and anyways i dont hear u sayin notin bout 4x1.i bet i know why..because no matter who is on yalls relay desoto is still going to beat yall!!Oh yeah and Traun didnt run through that 100 cuz guess wat??he was bouta run the 4x2 that went 1.24 the week b4!!!next time b4 u talk make sure yo relay can break into at least low 42 lmao LETS GO EAGLES!!!
Traun Roberson(DESOTO) said: “Yeah all of yall haters out there lookin stoopid!!!We went to cedar hill friday and ate them alive check it out...4x1 41.8 4x2 missin a leg but still easily 1.28 and open 100 since u say we dont got a sprinter...lets jus say a certain desoto sprinter burst on to the scene wit a 10.31(handtimed tho...)i swear we bouta eat on everybody and we are going to state...and yall gone have to see US (and me personally)!!!!2nd leg 4x1 2nd leg 4x2 and open 100... Signin out ... we eatin at desoto!!!”
Hey Traun...Twon or whatever your name is...while you busy eating I got something for you to swallow. Check it out..
I just went to one of the worst track meets ever assembled. It was a track meet hosted by Samuel who had all of 5...that's FIVE teams there. Let's see I believe the teams were Molina, Trinity Christian, Parish Episopal, Duncanville, and Samuel, of course.
1) D'Ville went 1:26 in the 4x2;
2) D'ville went 3:17 in the 4x4; by the way, Isaac went low 48 out of the blocks:
3) JHarris went 10.2 in the 100 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 10.4
4) JHarris went 21.4 in the 200 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 21.6
So while you lamenting about your 1:28 because you were missing a leg (btw, I love it when you clowns mention that you are always missing a runner here and there like that's suppose to mean something. How many do you have? There's only four on a relay...somebody is going to be missing every week) just know that it still isn't the 1:24 that you claimed last week and D'ville ran their times against themselves basically..
Now eat that player!
Duncanville Parent said: “Again, I wouldn't put too much stock in that 1:24 time that was posted for the 4x2. There's a few reason why I'm skeptical:
1) they went 1:31 last week; it's hard for me to believe they dropped seven seconds in a week especially with wind blowing the way that it did on yesterday;
2) 2nd place (Lancaster) went 1:30. In order to go 1:24, you have to be pushed to that kind of output (i.e. just go back to the TSU Relays Results from last year. When Hightower went 1:24 they were pushed by Garland (1:26.86), Westfield (1:26.91), etc. The last place team (Alief Hastings in that heat went 1:29;
3) They couldn't beat Lancaster in the 4x1; it's hard to imagine Desoto beating Lancaster by that large of a margin inthe 4x2; and last but not least, they don't have anybody that' remotely close to running w/Josh Harris. In order to go 1:24, you have to have at least two monsters on your relay, if not three. I don't think Desoto has one.
Outside of those small reasons, I guess it could be possible.”
Yeah all of yall haters out there lookin stoopid!!!We went to cedar hill friday and ate them alive check it out...4x1 41.8 4x2 missin a leg but still easily 1.28 and open 100 since u say we dont got a sprinter...lets jus say a certain desoto sprinter burst on to the scene wit a 10.31(handtimed tho...)i swear we bouta eat on everybody and we are going to state...and yall gone have to see US (and me personally)!!!!2nd leg 4x1 2nd leg 4x2 and open 100... Signin out ... we eatin at desoto!!!
Still taking noise, Like i said earlier, if Tyler and kendall get beat, then there will be that crack that`s cracking your face, cause u r talking who `s gonna do what. Don`t get me wrong I am a D`ville and lancaster Fan. I just say let the race happen, and may the best man win.Don`t forget it`s dallas against housto,Austin, and other area.
you cant even spell the school where sam is from so how you gonna talk down on someone, and he did'nt even break his heart cuz it was a close race and sam just got him out the blocks or else he would've beat him and plus do all this chit chat on the track and say who you are instead of talkin down on kennedy and isaac cuz they aint say nothing about or to none of yall so all yall just stop hating and trust me when Isaac and Kennedy start running in some competition meets like next week in lancaster its gone be a show and there only gone get better plus tyler, isaac, kendall, and kennedy cool anyway so whoever you are state your name and say who you are instead of being scared and I bet Isaac and Kennedy get 1st and 2nd in 5A if they work hard enough in the 300 Hurdles and be on the winning state 5A 4x4 relay and I expect tyler to place 1st or second or 3rd in the 110's as well as kendall and tyler to place 1st or 2nd in the 300's for the 4A state meet.
All I know is Tyler Stephenson and Kendall Hayes are going to roll Isaac Ogunlade and Kennedy Daughtery in the 110 Hurdles and 300 Hurdles so everyone out there show up for the lancaster meet march 13/14 cuz duncanville's 2 hurdlers gonna get there heart broken by lancaster's 2 hurdlers and I even heard Isaac got his heart broken by Sam Gagliano from Waxachie in the 110's
Texas relays is around da corner, it`s getting 2 b very exciting. I wanna see dallas team respresent. Let`s not make this all about D`ville. Let`s make it about Skyline, Desoto, North Crowley, D`ville, Allen, Rowlett, Lancaster, Lewisville and etc. all have good runners. all this hating talk against D`ville it`s other teams 2 u need 2 think about. It`s dallas against Houston, Austin, Waco, and other areas. 2 everyone who has negative things 2 say about kennedy, Issac , Josh, Akeem , and whoever else. I just hope u can back it up and do`nt get your face cracked, just run your race and do your best.cause after all if u lose and u gonna have 2 face your comp. and then what?
what ever he went still nobody coming close to desoto so all this talk bout kennedy and isaac need to stop right now cuz there on every schools hit list as getting rolled ill advise all this coaches to get off there jock because we ready to roll those 2 skanks plus a 3:23 is ice cream to us kennedy and isaac aint always gone be around or step up every time and when that happens its feeding time bi**tches
Whenever taking splits on the 4x4 relay, you need look at where the runner gets the baton. This is a common mistake in track and field, and this affects runner’s times/splits. How much the 2nd leg runner pulls the 1st leg runner, affects the 1st leg's time. If the 2nd leg just stands on his mark and doesn't move when getting the baton, or only pull his 1st leg a few meters, the 1st leg will not have ran a true 400 meters. This could be why Issac was timed at a 47.9. I don't know, I was not there. Not taking anything away from him because evidently he was moving. If you look at lane 1 at the beginning of the race and see where the 2nd leg runner is standing, you would understand the whole concept of how far runners should be pulled on the 4x4 to run a true 400 meters. The 2nd leg runner in lane 1, the 3rd legs, and 4th legs all stand on a mark/line about ten meters from the finish line waiting for the baton. They are supposed to pull their incoming teammate to the finish line. This would be a full 400 meters. If the anchor leg doesn't pull his man to the finish line, then he will run more than 400 meters because he has no choice but to finish at the finish line. This rarely happens in high school. The 2nd leg runners, other than the one in lane 1, have a tougher job because they do not have the finish line to gage how far to pull their 1st leg. I always said that the large diamond in the curve at the 1st exchange of the 4x4 would be a full 400 meters, but I am not even sure about that. We just always did it. Most of the time, 1st leg runners always run one second faster than their open time just like the other 3 legs, even though they are coming out of the blocks and not running on the fly. This tells me that the 2nd leg runners very seldom pull the 1st leg runners to a full 400 meters. These are all reasons why there has always been a belief and an argument that certain legs on the 4x4 run longer. One summer meet I timed an Intermediate runner (15-16 age group) at a mid 48 on the 2nd leg. I discounted it because the 3rd leg did not pull him at all. He literally did not move. This needs to be taken into account when timing and getting splits on the 4x4. It does not affect the 4x1 as much because they are moving faster, but bad hand-offs can affect splits on the 4x1 and 4x2 as well. Again, this could be the reason why Issac was clocked at 47.9 or 48 flat in the cold weather. Even if so, Issac still had to be moving.
I can see Duncanville's 4x2 doing something this year, because there last leg on that 4x2 this past weekend is a beast he caught 3 people but he did'nt have to work that hard there gonna need some help and Im suprised the right people were not on there, If they put there 100 meter stud at 1st, there 1st leg 4x4 runner who is a whole different beast at 2nd, find another strong leg at 3rd and keep the same last leg at 4th im telling you they will go at the most not the least but the most 1:25 before texas relays and have the fastest time in the nation then come state Houston Eisenhower's 4x2 1:23 could be damaged with.
issac aint go no 47.9 out the blocks on 1st leg in no 35 degree wheather who said they clocked him at that time need to get there watches fix, ima need some proof like old dude stated below on that one.
All of yall just shut up and run, and come on the guys the top teams this year should be Desoto, Lancaster, and Duncanville so these teams need to step up and make a run to the title but in my opinion i dont think Duncanville will get it on the 4x1 and 4x2 due to the fact it doesent have the right people on there. Kennedy Daughtery needs some help on that 4x2 he just cant do it all by himself, thats why they need Chayse Joybert at 2nd Josh Harris at 3rd and Isaac Ogunlade at 1st and i know they can break the record then but there's somthing about running 4 events with Isaac that might not be able to work out but come on it really doesent count untill district, regionals and state when the 4 events count let the kid decide what event is better for him to go to state in the 4x2 or 110's and then let him be able to decide come after end of March and then lets see what happens, other than that if its just to get points well I can understand that as well but i know duncanville can put a 4x2 together and do something special
like there 4x4 will do, but I just cant see there 4x1 doing something because they always leave the pressure on there last leg Josh Harris to do all the work.
Coach said: “Seriously D'Odrick Sykes, I hate when kids like you sound all proud and arrogant and like your team cant win without you that to me is just pure one man show, and what do you think Duncanville would have done if they had there full relay there as well. They ran without 2 state runners from last years relay i believe there 2nd and 3rd leg due to some complications but hopefull will be resolved soon and they had to be replaced by 2 kids who didnt use the lead to there advantage and split 54's and 53's even though it was cold out there i give them that benefit but come on they still went 3:23:50 thats the 3rd best time in the state as of now and 6th in the nation so give me a break with that talk Mr. Sykes.”
you miss understood my comment...i wasnt putting anyone down, only saying that me and marcus are ready to get on the 4x4 and we're ready for d-ville and L-town
Desoto has Marcus Mumphry but still though a 1:24 thats hard to believe something aint right but I heard right now kennedy ranked #4 in the nation and issac #11 in the 300 Hurdles and Issac #15 in the 110's and there 4x4 ranked #6 in the nation and 3rd in the state as of 2-28-09 im telling you guys those 2 kids put together can do some damage but going back to ellis hobbs meet i heard lancaster and desoto were pretty close and i just cant believe a 1:24 in the 4x2 just go to directathletics.com there time should be posted there.
Again, I wouldn't put too much stock in that 1:24 time that was posted for the 4x2. There's a few reason why I'm skeptical:
1) they went 1:31 last week; it's hard for me to believe they dropped seven seconds in a week especially with wind blowing the way that it did on yesterday;
2) 2nd place (Lancaster) went 1:30. In order to go 1:24, you have to be pushed to that kind of output (i.e. just go back to the TSU Relays Results from last year. When Hightower went 1:24 they were pushed by Garland (1:26.86), Westfield (1:26.91), etc. The last place team (Alief Hastings in that heat went 1:29;
3) They couldn't beat Lancaster in the 4x1; it's hard to imagine Desoto beating Lancaster by that large of a margin inthe 4x2; and last but not least, they don't have anybody that' remotely close to running w/Josh Harris. In order to go 1:24, you have to have at least two monsters on your relay, if not three. I don't think Desoto has one.
Outside of those small reasons, I guess it could be possible.
Seriously D'Odrick Sykes, I hate when kids like you sound all proud and arrogant and like your team cant win without you that to me is just pure one man show, and what do you think Duncanville would have done if they had there full relay there as well. They ran without 2 state runners from last years relay i believe there 2nd and 3rd leg due to some complications but hopefull will be resolved soon and they had to be replaced by 2 kids who didnt use the lead to there advantage and split 54's and 53's even though it was cold out there i give them that benefit but come on they still went 3:23:50 thats the 3rd best time in the state as of now and 6th in the nation so give me a break with that talk Mr. Sykes.
i clocked duncanvilles 1st leg at a low 48 but we need film on that cuz thats just crazy in that kind of weather but whats up with this desoto 1.24 4x2 im hearing about?
I was at the meet yesterday and from the area I was located, I really couldn't get a good time for him but I will say that he was handling his business. A couple of clocks did have him at a high 48 low 49 split and the 3rd leg, running a 53. I think Kennedy went either 48 or 49.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that 1:24 for Desoto. They went 1:31 last week and the weather and wind was worse last week than it was yesterday.
Theres no way nobody in the state of texas is going to go 48.00 flat in 30 degree wheather especillay in beginning of the school track season for high school track so desoto you just need to get that out of your head right now that Isaac went 47.99 because they went 3.23.50 if he went 48 flat what did everybody else go, 55's so theres just no way and i heard desoto went 1:24 is that true because thats just crazy this time of the season?
Some dude named David who run for Eastern Hills say Issac Duncanville's 1st leg went 47.99 out the blocks in 30 degree weather does anyone know if this is true or not?
all of ya'll childish none of ya'll dont no what none of this runners do or think if any of ya'll have any thing to say how bout you just ask the runner what they should do its they decision on what they are doing none of ya'll...instead of assuming something but other then that whatever
4x400 Meter Relay Young Men
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Nat'l Youth: N 3:06.22 7/29/2007 So. Ca. Running Cougars, So
J. Hughes, N. Gutteriez, J. Anderson, R. Wyatts
JO Meet: J 3:06.22 7/29/2007 16 33 So Cal Running Cougar
R Wyatt, J Hughes, N Gutteriez, J Anderson
Team Finals
Finals
1 Track Houston Track 3:12.76
1) DeAndre Thompson 89 2) Kameron Horace 90
3) Xavier Boyd 91 4) Myles Smith 91
2 Team Xtreme 3:16.24
1) DeAndre Hicks 89 2) Danzell Fortson 90
3) Christopher High 89 4) Isaac Murphy 90
3 Junior Speedster 3:17.01
1) Reginald Reed Jr 91 2) Akeem Banks 91
3) Kennedy Daughtery 91 4) Isacc Ogunlade 91
4 Zephyrs TC 3:19.45
1) Christopher Watts 90 2) Jeremy Webber 89
3) Brandon Minor 91 4) Armand Rhone 89
5 Mobile Parks Recreation Dept 3:21.58
1) Mujahid Assad 90 2) Terrance Fleming 91
3) Joshua Johnson 90 4) Tyrell Moore 91
-- 13 Track Eastern Carolina DQ Unsportsmanlike
1) Christopher Herring 89 2) Fuquan Greene 91
3) Anthony Hendrix 90 4) Robett Horton 90
-- 45 Quicksilver DQ Unsportsmanlike
1) Vincent Butler 89 2) Deaundra Dailey 90
3) Charles Robinson 91 4) Amaechi Morton 89
..Whatever, Here is your Proof, D'ville 4x4 Runner is right, It`s on usatf.org.
insert foot into mouth LOL haaaaaa.i believe u do have 2 run indoor in college by da way. "U wanna get away". haaaaa. i`m sorry that was funny!!!!... my bad.
"Whatever u r Very Funny" LOL, u really don`t know what u r talking about. My oldest son use to run for the the team ur putting down.he received a full scholarship running in the regional track meet in houston. the head coach talk with the summer track coach at that meet and myself . he ask da coach what type of work out was he doing with my son. and committed da coach a good job he has done. 4 U to say that coach is hurting there chances that`s not true. it has been a few kids that has gotten full rides with that team and other summer track clubs. Don`t know where u r getting your information from, but it`s incorrect. this past summer desoto roadrunners, lancaster lightining, hallmark did not beat junior speedster. U sound like a bitter coach. that these summer track coach r doing a better job then some of these school coaches r. u act like Junior speedster was the only team that ran indoor track. D`ville lost some of there girls because they ran indoor track. they ran for summer track team as well. Why r u not talking about that. what about the others kids that go to D`ville that ran a different indoor track team. that`s not coming out of your month. but u want 2 talk about the coach from the Junior Speedster. "what`s up with that"? u mouth almight tongue everlasting, spitting out words with no meaning.if u going 2 talk about kids running indoor track, then talk about all teams that did it.And far as Akeem getting kicked off off da 4x4 @ lancaster. that`s not true. lancaster wanted Akeem to focus on da 800m run.get better in coaching maybe the kids will beleive in u "excuse me" d`ville coach.
The Junior Speedsters track team is not that great and whoever the coach is hurting the kids chances of scholarships by having them run to many meets for example indoor plus outdoor and are putting to much stress on there legs and thats why they keep complaining about shin splints and show me the proof of its 4x4 being 3rd in the nation and 1st in the state because dont Hallmark, lancaster lightining, and Track Houston, Desoto Roadrunners always beat them during the summer and the way it looks like Duncanville just might loose in school track to Desoto if they dont trust what there coaches.
sorry, whos summer track team is sorry you must be kiddin ur self akeem's summer track team is the 3rd best 4x4 relay in the nation and best in the state, the same in indoor so get your facts straight and it also has the best coach there is in the nation, and for your info akeem transfered to duncanville he didnt get kicked off so again get your facts straight and last but not least how is akeem faking that his back hurts when he even has a doctor not that says theres a problem with it, and going back to the duncanville parent, how you say that u wish you can come help coach dorris break some records but then start disagreeing with his style of coaching, and how do you know so much about akeem and our 4x4 something aint right here but no disrespect im just tryna win state and all this talking down and talk about duncanville is getting to much it feels like all the pressure is on us, and on duncanville period we didnt even win this hoe we got SIXTH damn, everytime i come on here i hope all this talk is over but it gets worser and worser this will probably go down in history
Duncanville Parent, I can't agree with you more when you said that Coach Dorris is running away from the heat. Although, I call it ducking. As you said, with the talent on that team, there is no need for Duncanville to duck anyone in the state. However, it could be a difference in philosophy, which I don't agree with. There are some coaches out there that think they are doing their track team a favor by not putting them in competitive track meets week in and week out. They like to say that they want their team to peak at the end of the season. I've never believed in this. I believe if you have crisp, short work-outs with timed intervals instead of long untimed marathon work-outs, your runners should always be fresh and their times should come down every week. Then as the season goes on, you should cycle back the workouts and give a day off every now and then if needed. Since a lot of coaches don't do this, some believe that running in the "garbage meets" early will allow their team to peak at the right time. Well, the argument against doing it that way is the 2007 year. Desoto, Lancaster, and Cedar Hill 4x4's all ran against each other most of the year. The three of them had some exiting races and I loved it. But, they did not peak early. All three ran their fastest times at the State Meet in which they had the top three times in the state that year. Desoto and Cedar Hill finished 1st and 2nd in 5A and Lancaster won 4A. Someone stated on this blog earlier that Duncanville's 4x4 would not post fast times early and would peak at District, Regionals, and the State Meet. This could be what Coach Dorris is doing, I don't know. I just know that I don't agree with that philosophy.
Akeem Banks is the biggest faker there is and you should realize that who ever you are, as myself i tried to help him when his so called spine was hurting but he pushed me away and cursed at me and i slightly touched him i was just testing him to see how he was going to react but when coach dorris came to help him then he was all calm and pretended his spine was hurting him because the truth is he was just tired from running those 800s at practice and used that as an excuse, because who has the damn guts to come back the next day after having another teammate help you to the trainer because your limping because your so called spine is bent and then the next day at practice come start showing off by coming out of the blocks on the curve and running out the blocks 100 percent theres no way i can believe him, and then last but not least forget him and his summer track team because who ever he runs for is sorry anyway and there coach needs to teach him to control his attitude before he school track starts because these coaches dont play when it comes to school track and I see why he got kicked off lancasters 4x4 because of his attitude and then tries to come over here and lie on coach tolbert and coach dorris and disrespect them, theres just no way
No big loss. Banks isn't one of my favorite people, anyway. I witnessed him trying to fight one of teammates who tried to help him finish a 400 run during practice. He actually had the nerve to stop 50 meters from finishing and fall to the track (he didn't even have enough heart to jog in) claiming that his heart was hurting. When his teammate picked him up and tried to help him finish, all of a sudden he had enough energy to push the guy away and buck up in his face and curse him. Are you kidding me? You couldn't run an extra 50 meters to finish your run because you were tired but somehow you can muster enough energy to fight? If it wasn't for Coach Tolbert stepping in, he probably would swung at the guy...LOL!! What a joke!
Akeem hurt his back @ coach D practice and i was told coach dorris did not want 2 be responsible 4 it. he said Akeem could not run 4 the rest of the year. He @ pactice everyday the kids are sayin. his events are 800, 400, & 4x4.
I agree w/"Believe". I would be very careful and hesitant to give Dorris alot of the credit. These kids are performing and succeeding IN SPITE OF not BECAUSE OF Dorris. He has a senior laden team who has personal motivation from the bad taste left in their mouths from last year. The kids who run the 4x1 and 4x2 believe and know that if Josh had not gotten hurt last year, they were state bound. The kids on the 4x4 is motivated because they got a taste of the state meet and want to prove that race wasn't their best, especially GCastillo. They all have taken on the motto of UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
I believe Dorris is a joke of a coach and scared. He scheduled some garbage meets for these kids to help build up his trophy case; not to enhance their abilities. I believe he is running away from "the heat" which is very confusing to me. How do you run away from the heat when YOU are the heat? Mr. Dixon mentioned that he went to the meet on Saturday and was impress by their performance(s). Please don't misunderstand what I am saying, the kids are studs but the competition they ran against was below par. Running against competition like that on a regular basis could come back and bite you in the long run if you're not careful. Other than Cedar Hill, the teams in D'Ville's district is historically garbage in track. You may get a distance runner springled in here and there but that's about it. When are district is that bad, you have to prepare your accordingly.
That's too bad. In the past, Desoto and Duncanville would always run at each others meet along with Arlington Bowie and Lancaster. Since Desoto's meet is on the same weekend that it is normally on, it looks like Duncanville moved their meet and put it on the exact same day of Desoto's meet. A totally disregard for the past history and the friendly rivalry between the two schools. We already have the Jesuit meet and the Carter Shoot-Out on the same weekend for the first time, and now this. Unbelievable.
they say there having the bob alpert invitational on the same day as ellis hobbs, i think or it must be a week apart i dont know really but they should meet up pretty soon i think
The first big match-up of the season will take place this Saturday at the Desoto Ellis Hobbs Meet, Lancaster will be there and their 4x4 is coming in with a lot of confidence. Desoto got robbed last week. Somehow the Acutrack had John Tyler beating Desoto in the second heat. They were not even in the same heat. Desoto ran away with their heat, in spite of having two alternates on the relay. It was said that John Tyler only ran 3:40 in the first heat. Regardless, Desoto should have all four legs this weekend for their match-up with Lancaster. Where is Duncanville running at this weekend? They normally go to the Desoto Meet. But, I heard Duncanville will not be there this weekend. Is this true?
Ive been a Duncanville track fan since 1999 when they won the championship that was the 4x1 and 4x2 days. I moved up to Garland last year but still have my support of my Panthers and I came to show that support yesterday at the RockWall Heath Classic plus I had no idea they have a website called flotrack that talks about there 4x4 relay which Duncanville has never really had a 4x4 relay really shine untill 2008 but at the RockWall Heath Classic yesterday Duncanville boys team looked like a version of Rowlett the state 5A Champions last year the chemistry the order the encouraging and cheering one another on and the focous, im seeing something great to come that we as texans have not seen in some years I see as a forcast Duncanville winning state as a team by 50 points or more individual champions and all relays and they put on one hell of a show and I sware you guys need to see a video of the 300 Hurdles race between Kenndy Daughtery and Isaac Ogunlade from Duncanville both teammates and both on there state qualifying 4x4 relay last year. They ran in the same heat and it was close 1st and 2nd place Kennedy taking 1st and Isaac 2nd and they claped hands at the end with a smile and it was beautiful hopefully this is just how it will be like at state and Josh Harris the 100 meter guy has me lost for words i clocked him at a 10.13 even though with the wind that is amazing and I clocked Isaac Ogunlade as well at a 13:87 in the 110s with the wind as well and he slipped out of the blocks, wow i believe the new track coach Derek Dorris who came in this year after a dissapointing situation with there head coach last year Se Love, i believe Coach Dorris has put a masterpiece together and I cant wait to see what they have coming and ill be there for there next meet trust me.
in my opinion there times really shouldent matter i mean of course run hard yea but it wont in my opinion really matter untill the big meets like jesuit, texas relays and of course district, regionals, and state
Issac went 50.1 out the blocks with no push and had about a 50 meter lead i heard he was just striding the back straight and last stretch, Gabe went 52 or 53 on 2nd leg or Josh went 52 or 53 on 3rd leg and Kennedy went 49 on 4th leg, the race was over after there 1st leg ran there was no point of running hard then unless they wanted to go for time but like you said with the wind and weather playing a factor there was no need to go under 3:20, there in perfect shape at this time of season a 3:23 or 3:24 is just perfectly fine especially there 1st and last leg times were great, good job D'ville and keep it up.
I don't have that info. I heard the wind was pretty strong yesterday and the temp. was pretty chilly so that is good considering everything. I wouldn't worry too much about splits right now. It's the 2nd meet of the year and the 1st time they ran the 4x4. Most good coaches will tell their guys (especially if the weather is becoming worse) not to do anything crazy to avoid injury the first few weeks; work on your 1st 100 meters and last 150; and better your time from the previous week. Next week will be the time when splits start meaning something because you have approximatelty 4-6 weeks before district meets to get you tihs in order.
Desoto went 3:27 for 2nd place behind John Tyler's 3:26 (another team in there district). I believe D'Ville went 3:23..
Some other 5A times times around the state on yesteday:
Conroe - 3:22, Houston Lamar - 3:23, Westfield - 3:25...(same race)
and do you know jv 4x4 splits all legs and varsity all legs, especially i want to know how they did earlier in the season because if they look good right no one knows how great they'll look come time for district
Reggie won the 200 on JV 22.3( no push) in lane 7, Jacore Turner first leg put D-Ville boys out front given da hand off to Reggie 2nd leg beat the other teams by 100. Josh did well. he always could run da 400 he just don`t like to. how did Desoto do?
According to my sources, Reggie will not be able to run this year because his transfer/proof of residence papers has not been filed properly or something to that fact. If he is in fact running JV tomorrow, that means that the paperwork is being worked out and he is running JV to get some run in until everything has cleared.
No tension between Believe in Yourself and me. Just trying to make them aware that you have to respect everyone's opinions and thoughts on this blog because you just don't know who's who.
It seems that issac never gets hurt thats good to have a kid dependable on, and the fact now that reggie is running JV what in the world is up with that and what transfer rules and whats this argument between Believe in Yourself and the Duncanville Parent whats going here there seems to be some tension.
Gabe was just having a bad day and we'll just leave it at that. Issac was on the relay the whole year.
One more thing...word is that Reggie will not be able to run this year because of some sort of transfer rule.
thank you, i just wanted to know if it were the same guys throughout the year or if anyone got replaced because you stated that 2 runners gabe and issac were on there most of the year but what happened to gabe why didnt he run that day and did is
B 4x400 5A 4x400 relay
lol
We know the all of the guys name now
since this post was made.
We could just let the athletes/teams compete
for the silver and bronze medal in the 4x2
and 4x4. This would make the state meet shorter
and more efficient...Just an idea.
Some of these things are going the way of AAU basketball.
I have a theory. I bet I could hand pick 4 guys who run 49-50, meet them at the track each week, bring my dog (her name is Kali), tie her to the goalpost, and let her bark at them while they ran some random workout that they saw the football players doing earlier that day.
And guess what...Kali would coach them to a 3:16....Maybe even a 3:15. Point? Talent matters...And it is almost everything when it comes to summer track clubs. Try working with a random population and then come brag about it on the internet.
What it sounds like is that someone (or some people) thought they were bigger than the Duncanville program and it caught up with them. The coach decided to put ethics above winning. I have a tendency to feel bad for the kids because my gut tells me that they were being influenced by a club coach who had a different plan in mind during the HIGH SCHOOL SEASON.
Heck...I'll offer another little bit of unsolicited advice. Go get a calendar. Make sure it is one of the ones with an annual view of the months. Get a pen. Put it on the month of January and draw a line all the way until mid-May. Then write "UIL/High School season" somewhere on the middle of the line. Then draw another line from June to July and write "Summer track - Four races, two of which nobody will be at to see."
You are a moron. I coach kids on the side and I can assure you all you have done by condoning these kids not deal with the situation and the system is that now they think they are beyond the system. Much like saying I have a drivers license so I am going to drive 100 mph even though the speed limit is 65.
If these kids want out let them run outside but quit bellyaching about the coach losing the opportunity to be state champ.
Those kids names will never be on any historic record unless there is a historic record for dumbasses who can run fast who are led by a bigger dumbass.
i hope the new Dville do somthin and go to state without the College Beast
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NCAA Reg: # 3:11.10
Stadium: % 3:01.31 1997 Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Clarke, McFarlane, Kite, Martin
School Finals H#
1 Baylor 'A' 3:05.47# 4
1) 87 Hewitt, Zwede 2) 75 Boyd, Marcus
3) 91 Liggins, Michael 4) 101 Summers, Quentin
2 Texas Tech 'A' 3:06.63# 4
1) 631 Mims, Rodney 2) 634 Roberts, Gil
3) 638 Washington, Brandon 4) 609 Adams, Lamont
3 Texas Tech 'B' 3:11.86 3
1) 619 Foster, Tim 2) 625 Lawhorn, Bill
3) 622 Henderson, Markus 4) 613 Butler, Jamaal
4 South Plains 'A' 3:12.24 4
1) 428 Dascent, Calvin 2) 423 Brown, Bryce
3) 449 Williams, Latoy 4) 440 Quow, Renny
5 Prairie View 'A' 3:12.73 3
1) 310 Mitchell, Jason 2) 294 Alexander, Jared
3) 304 Gray, Jarryd 4) 307 Hicks, Brandon
6 Sam Houston St. 'A' 3:13.42 4
1) 359 Dennis, Lane 2) 363 Hayes, Darryl
3) 379 Thomas, John 4) 356 Courtney, Michael
7 North Texas 'A' 3:14.15 4
1) 188 Flowers, Justin 2) 202 Talley, Keyth
3) 192 Hayter, Reggie 4) 199 Pyron, Montrell
8 Baylor 'B' 3:16.17 4
9 South Plains 'B' 3:16.70 3
1) 429 Douglas, Damon 2) 424 Campbell, Rodney
3) 435 Lynch, Marcelis 4) 446 Webb, Sharif
10 Oklahoma Baptist 'A' 3:16.76 3
1) 265 Mignard, Ethan 2) 261 Jackson, Jared
3) 273 Williams, Wit 4) 260 Iniss, Pierien
11 Oklahoma Baptist 'B' 3:18.26 2
1) 252 Christy, Billy 2) 247 Blackwell, Nick
3) 246 Betterton, Adam 4) 251 Bryant, Sam
12 Abilene Christian 'A' 3:18.62 3
1) 21 Jackson, Desmond 2) 22 Jackson, Harold
3) 24 Johnson, Jordan 4) 28 Radway, Raymond
13 Wayland Baptist 'A' 3:19.32 2
1) 723 Smith, Stanley 2) 709 Davis, Jerry-Lee
3) 719 Prevost, Lee 4) 721 Scott, Mario
14 Tarleton State 'A' 3:20.79 2
1) 510 Donohue, Aaron 2) 511 Edwards, Chad
3) 516 Gooden, Aaron 4) 523 Hurd, Jordan
15 Prairie View 'B' 3:21.11 1
1) 297 Bridgewater, Ricky 2) 300 Donelson, William
3) 308 Jones, Matthew 4) 306 Hernandez, Fernando
16 TAMU-Commerce 'A' 3:23.03 2
1) 479 Sinegal, Albert 2) 481 Thornton, Cairo
3) 488 Wyse, Lyndon 4) 470 Dotson, Bradford
17 South Plains 'C' 3:23.63 2
1) 419 Beckford, Stephon 2) 427 Cole, Chicanel
3) 432 Fyfield, Guistino 4) 434 Liburd, Lester
18 Sam Houston St. 'B' 3:25.06 2
1) 354 Banks, Leon 2) 378 Stephenson, Matt
3) 353 Anderson, Joseph 4) 352 Anders, Clint
19 Oklahoma Baptist 'C' 3:25.84 2
1) 249 Breath, Eric 2) 274 Wilson, Clint
3) 267 Price, Dakota 4) 272 Williams, Durrell
20 Tarleton State 'B' 3:26.84 1
1) 515 Feist, Sheldon 2) 518 Griffin, Austin
3) 525 Mays, Jamal 4) 538 Thomas, Garret
21 North Texas 'B' 3:28.00 3
1) 203 Turner, Andrew 2) 189 Fowler, C.J.
3) 193 Irabor, Brandon 4) 206 Wehr, Jordan
22 Wayland Baptist 'B' 3:28.42 1
1) 718 Palmer, Dominic 2) 708 Benton, Tito
3) 710 Dunn, Kirby 4) 715 Lovett, Skylar
23 TAMU-Commerce 'B' 3:29.35 1
1) 487 Womack, Brandon 2) 466 Balthazar, Ronald
3) 471 Holmes, Demetrius 4) 477 Oberle, Colby
24 South Plains 'D' 3:30.76 1
1) 422 Brest, Derek 2) 426 Coffman, Jordan
3) 430 Driver, Mitchell 4) 441 Raiford, Adam
25 Oklahoma Baptist 'D' 3:32.96 1
1) 262 Jackson, Parker 2) 250 Brown, Seth
3) 255 Edmisten, Gideon 4) 258 Hermes, Nick
26 TAMU-Commerce 'C' 3:36.51 1
1) 482 Tosie, Anthony 2) 483 Valle, Anthony
3) 484 Washington, Chad 4) 475 McGuffey, Justin
-- G.G. Elite TC 'A' X3:04.22 4
1) 110 Witherspoon, Reggie 2) 108 Wariner, Jeremy
3) 735 Spearmon, Wallace 4) 109 Williamson, Darold
-- Junior Speedster 'A' X3:15.80 3
1) 114 Ogunlade, Isacc 2) 113 Kennedy Daughtery
3) 116 Akeem Banks 4) 115 Reggie Reed Jr.
Looks like Duncanville's 4x4 which is Junior Speedsters, would have won Texas Relays.
Duncanville athletes broke the rules, they were warned, they were punished....enough said. Those boys, running as unattached competitors, were the ones causing the problems.....They knew what they were doing was wrong....they were told ahead of time....
LANCASTER
CEDAR HILL
DESOTO
DuNCANVILLE
Well i no my Brother Akeem and all my Friends (whole duncanville track team) is still goin to get a full schoolarship.
LANCASTER - DESOTO and Cedar hill girls (DO YALL THING FOR DUNCANVILLE AND I)
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Reggie Reed= Not ELIGLIBLE to run varsity due to UIL residency rules but did. By him running at Lancaster, he disqualified the entire relay team's eligibility for the rest of the year. If any of them run in district in any event, they disqualify the school! That's the reason for 60 days. Thank You Reggie!
Several of the kids involved in this do not even live in Duncanville ISD. Guess what's coming next? Oh yes, they brought this upon themselves by making this a "high profile case" and going to the media. Do you think the Dallas Morning News reporters are stupid?
This so called club coach has outstanding warrants on his record. He and his wife are the ones stirring up everthing, not the kids' parents.
Reggie's total disregard for the UIL rule should be expected because the club coach giving him advice does not know the rule and does not have to abide by them.
ADVICE: Get off this board. Stop trashing Duncanville HS and enroll your kid where you live. Learn the rules. You have done enough damage to Duncanville HS. Good bye.
It's funny that ya'll talk about how awful the DHS coaches are and complain about their rules against indoor track and decisions they've made for the team, but at the same time you brag about how this was starting to be the greatest year ever at DHS. Just maybe, if you had followed your coaches advice, it could have been the best year ever. Maybe the things he made you do and not do were actually working!
It's obvious that the athletes, parents, and club "recruiters" are the ones with the real ego problems. Your coach asked you not to run for health reasons but YOUR ego couldn't take that. A coach's job is to make decisions, not to always make everyone happy.
I hope if any of you get the opportunity to run in college, that you respect your coach whether you agree with him or not. You will not go far on your own.
1) when the coach informed the team that were not running, the uniforms were turned in at that time. The kids ran in their own shorts and t-shirts;
2) the kids initially had no intentions of running. Some of the ones that were suspended actually went home, again under the "assumption" that the entire meet was cancelled because that was what the coach indicated to them. A few of them received text messages from their competitors (i.e. Lancaster and Desoto) asking them where were they and why wasn't they running;
3) the kids were never told not to run. Why would he have to tell them not to run if you indicated that the meet was cancelled? Josh didn't run because his father told him not to run; but he was the only one who Josh's father talked to and Josh did not tell anyone else his fathers advice because he was so mad that he could not run he had left the stadium for a moment and was no where to be found.
4) none of the kids times were recorded. Just go the Lancaster Track meet to see the results;
5) I don't have an ego about this issue. I don't coach any of the kids during the summer; I do know them, though. My whole issue isn't the suspension of a broken rule. IF a rule was broken, does it have to be 60 days? or is it because the kids ran indoor track and all coach dorris and tolbert are trying to do is get back at them? School will be out in approximately 40+ days. Hell, make 'em run bleachers until they see straight but to deny them an opportunity to compete and risk a future isn't cool.
Please do contact the UIL and every media outlet in Texas. The more you talk the more ridiculous you come across.
You broke a rule. You disregarded the coaches' wishes. You knew exactly what you were doing when you ran. Now, you want to blame everyone else but yourself. You are selfish and unworthy to be called "teammates". You let down the other kids on the TEAM. You also let down the school but I am betting that part does not bother you at all.
Advice: take your consequences and go quietly into the past. Parents if you choose to withdraw your child from Duncanville HS, I am sure that they will be happy to assist you with the paperwork.
I wish you the best and hope that you have learned a lesson so when you graduate and get into the "real world" you will know to follow rules, respect authority, and do what you boss asks of you. Otherwise, I am afraid you will live a life of misery while blaming everyone else.
Cliff Odenwald
Department email: Director of Athletics
Because of your racist hate for the Duncanville staff, you have tried to turn this into an issue that it is not. The issue is, rules were broken and the consequences enforced. Duncanville would have faced further consequences had the coaching staff not taken the steps that they did. The rest of the team would have suffered had they not taken the steps that they did.
Shame on the club "recruiters" and shame on Lancaster coaches for their part in this mess. They are the ones to blame for this situation but for some it's so much easier to turn their racist hate on "Whitey" and blame him for all their problems.
Ask me about a letter and voicemail from "Coach Anthony S" saying I am DISD coach. Better yet, just wait until it is posted in the Dallas Morning News.
The rule about being able to run during spring break deals with grades not the unattached rule. Section 1207 states you cannot run unattached anytime in a UIL sanctioned meet. The rule also states the UIL can punish each athlete up to three years. To me, it sounds like the athletic director is trying to save the juniors and sopres from the UIL by implementing a self-imposed suspension. THE UIL can still suspend them for up to three years!
Also, Lancaster HS will face UIL sanctions though the State Executive Committee. Sorry guys, this is out of the school, coach, or AD's hands. Your year is done. There will be no overturning of the suspension because it was made at the local level not the UIL. However, the UIL may still give a longer suspension.
Also heard that one of the relay runners was not even eligible to run on varsity because he just moved in. Was told he ran at Lancaster. If that's the case, thier entire relay team would be ineligible for district. I also think that a violation of the rule in 1207 would cause problems for the entire track team if the seven were allowed to run at district because their eligibility is in question.
The rule was broken and the consequence sounds severe but I think there are pretty good reasons behind the suspension. Like trying to keep the entire track program off of UIL sanctions and trying to keep the underclassman from further suspension by the UIL.
So far this year, three girls and now seven boys have gotten bad advice or made bad choices with disregard to UIL rules. All three girls have been found ineligible for varisty competition for one year and the seven boys are done for this year.
All of these rules are online on Duncanville's site and the UIL site. I ADVISE THAT YOU GET TO KNOW THE UIL RULES!
I am sure that the coaches and ad at DHS are heart broken because they want to win as bad as anybody.
LET THEM RUN!!!
Competition is noble, bulls--t politics are not
One other thing, everyone knows that your not really Coach Anthony and that you are really Coach Dorris himself. It is funny and stupid how you think anyone on this page is going to think that Coach A would really pretray himself as a Duncanville coach when "HE HAS HIS OWN TEAM" lol. And what is up with these accusations about outstanding warrents? its really childish and lame and a way to escape and put the blame game on somebody. Well with all said and done I just want to say whoever you are you seem paranoid about Coach A and like your scared about something and the only way you can escape whatever your scared of is by lying and accusing someone of false accusations. Be a man and dont talk on the blog, if you have something to say why dont you say it in Coach A's face. Trust me Coach A does not have time to talk on Flotrack if he has anything to say he will either call you up or be glad to talk face to face.
One other thing, the junior speedsters will be finished once I am exposed for portraying myself as a DHS coach and they figure out how many warrants I have. Go tell your parents that you have been listening to a fraud.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You are correct. This has gotten too personal. Here are the facts and some things that you don't know:
#1 The seven boys broke a UIL rule. This goes way beyond a Duncanville rule. The UIL can suspend the boys for up to three years and if they are allowed to run in the district meet they will jeopardize the entire team and program at Duncanville beacuse they have violated their eligiblity status. The AD suspended them not removed them. So the juniors and sopres may be able to return next year unless, the UIL gives them a further disciplne.
#2 Defamation of character, especially of a teacher, coach, or any other pulic figure is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Internet chat rooms and message boards can be traced by IP address and will be subpeoned in case of a suit. A defamation of character suit is not a pretty situation for the person(s) eing sued. Keep it up folks and don't be surprised if you get served lawsuit papers. You know teachers belong to professional organizations that pay for their attorney fees? Also, Coach O. is personal friends with a certain state senator from the Duncanville area whoa also happens to be an attorney. Not a threat, just giving you the facts so you are informed.
#3 Evidence has emerged that a "Coach Anthony" has been portraying himself as a Duncanville HS coach. Authorities believe that this "Coach Anthony" is actually a summer track coach and has been using this game to recruit kids. A letter and voicemails have been turned over to proper authorities. Fraud and impersonating a public official are also offenses and even more so for someone with outstanding warrants. I am sure that if "Coach Anthony" reads this message board he will know who he is. Coach A, time is running out for your game. I am sure the parents of your club will be very pleased when they find out what you have been doing.
#4 To call anyone who has spent anytime working in Duncanville a racist is ludicrous. Most of the coaches have spent their entire careers either playing and/or working with a diverse population. Coach Dorris played in the NFL with a majority African-American team. Coach Ozee has been in Duncanville 11 years and Coach Tolbert 7 years. All of these coaches would have no problem getting a job in any other district but choose to work in Duncanville because the majority of kids and parents are great people to work with.
Jamison, you are a wise young man to point out how personal this has gotten. It sure is funny how racism is brought into the picture when blame is trying to be deflected off of the real issue which is the kids broke the rule.
My kids' experience at DHS has been nothing but great. Coach Ozee does more behind the scenes for kids, despite their parents in some cases, than anyone I have ever seen. He has helped my daughters, without fanfare, more than any other adult. The coaches love the kids and I bet they are just as upset about this than anyone. Do you not think they want to win a state championship as well? In talking with Ozee, he is very upset with Lancaster HS for allowing this happen. He understands that kids make mistakes but since this is a UIL rule, he had to make the decision he made to protect the entire program.
#5 Coach Henderson was a volunteer. The UIL specifically prohibits volunteers from coaching high school. The previous head track coach at DHS was directed, in writing, to not allow Coach Henderson to coach the boys last year. The coach ignored the directive and is one of the reasons he was removed. Again, UIL rules were ignored. I guess since there are no rules in club track that mentality has spilled over to high school?
#6 Coach Dorris is the head coach and Coach Tolbert is the asst. head coach for a track staff of track coaches. DHS has more track coaches than most high schools. Coaches are paid to know the rules and to look out for the best interest of their students.
#7 When the decision was made to withdraw from the Lancaster meet and enter the TCU meet the next Saturday, why were the kids not excited about running in front of more college coaches at a college meet? Seems like a no-brainer there for all the parents griping about "getting exposure" for college scholarships.
#8 In an earlier post, someone said to "get ready for war." May I advise that before you "go to war" you know who your friends and enemies are? The AD has been here a long time and has more political friends, influence, and allies (black, white, and hispanic) in Duncanville than you may know. I've known this man for ten years and trust me he is here for kids. He also has pretty thick skin so if you "want to go to war", I'll be the first to say "I told you so" when you wind up looking like an idiot.
#9 I encourage whoever is going to the Dallas Morning News and local media to continue to do so. The more that you rasise hell the more your game is exposed. I'd love to see you on camera to tell your side of the story. Wouldn't that be great for a million people in Texas to see how ridiculous your behavior is because you are trying to deflect blame?
Again, go back to the facts of the situation. Who knows the rules better, kids, club coaches, the high school coach, or an athletic director who is on the Board of Directors for the Texas HS Athletic Directors Association?
Ask Isaac's dad how he feels about this situation and his son. Its funny how no one is asking his opinion. Oh wait, Channel 8 put him on the news last night. Why didn't they interview any other parent involved?
Stick with the facts and let the truth prevail. Believe me no one is happy with the truth and that includes the coaches.
No wonder the guys didn't know they weren't supposed to run at Lancaster. They had no idea what the coach was saying because he was speaking in English.
Isaac, 10.75 runners are a dime a dozen and you soon will be forgotten. You can say you are going to do this and going to do that, but I've seen the same song and dance before. All talk...in gibberish of course.
I'm handling the "heat" just fine. I can "bite" back. I'm not the one on here crying and speaking gibberish. But I have every right to stand up for the coaches who did nothing more than enforce the rules which they put in place. High School athletics is a privilege, not a right. It is something you earn, not something you are given. You do what your coach asks, or you pack your bags and go home.
If you are a summer track coach, quit walking up to my athletes at our UIL meets and trying to talk them into running for you.
Quit sending some random runner from another school to get my athlete's cell # so you can text them your dinky little team website.
Most of all, quit bashing the HS program and saying that the coaches on staff at these high schools don't know what they're talking about. Last time I checked, the number of HS coaches at clinics outnumbers the club coach more than 10 to 1.
While I can admit that there are many summer track coaches that know their event well, it is also visible to anyone who has been around the sport that summer track team success is all about recruitment/athlete collection.
Oh yeah...More on the phone number bit -- don't send someone to get my athlete's phone number right after she crosses the line while I am in the middle of talking with her about her race (this just happened last weekend). What you are doing is like an AAU basketball coach trying to sign a kid up while they are on the bench during a high school game. Get off our playing field. Apply for a job at a high school if you want to be coaching at high school meets so badly.
I think that is the end of my rant. It is ridiculous that we even have to deal with this during our competitions.
EDIT: I don't really have a problem with summer track per se. I just don't like the push/pull I see the faster kids go through when recruitment time comes around each year. I also think a distance runner should either forgo it or compete off of just base training and tempo work while running down one event from their strongest race
SUMMER TRACK COACH.
The AD at Duncanville is one of the finest men that I know. He has done so much for the kids of Duncanville despite ignorant parents and ignorant summer coaches. He helps kids. I am sure that Coach Ozee has ample reason to suspend students.
Furthermore, my kid tells me that this is not the first issue with club this year. Check the three girls who transferred out of DHS in February because they did not want to adhere to rules. They were all declared ineligible by the UIL.
Coach Henderson, did you know that there is a UIL against "volunteer" coaches? Maybe if you did know the rule then you would have known not to hang around DHS as it would wind being one of the reasons the head track coach lost his job last year.
Coach Henderson, do you know the UIL rules regarding track meets or you just relying on heresay? Or perhaps you are relying on club rules?
Coach Henderson, are you aware that your post here and email to the Dallas Morning News just further validates the UIL rule that was broken.
Coach Henderson, before you go out in public and run down a coach you better get your facts straight. It is people like you and other club coaches who are ruining the high school track programs. But I am sure you would blame someone else for that?
Coach Henderson, you and the coaches of the club who are causing all the problems for Duncanville's track program make me sick. You have ruined a great year for not only my child but many others.
Now I think you owe the coaches and AD an apology
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Posted on 03/25/2009 14:13 EDT by panhandlerunner
Rules are Rules.. whether they are BS or not.
Not sure why kids are listening to other teams coaches. This would have made it very easy for a school to come back and say "Hey these guys broke the rules at this meet" and get them DQ from regionals/state.
Unfortunately, the coach made a decision and the kids should have followed it. I dont neccessarily agree with the ruling, but it is what it is. Abide by it. panhandlerunner
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Posted on 03/25/2009 15:01 EDT by kthomp
They were told they weren't to run. That is all that has to be said. Why didn't Josh Harris run? Because he was told not to.
Crap like this happened at Dunc in the past, and the new coach is standing up for his program. Coach Love is gone and so are his antics.
Dorris felt he did what he needed to do for his team.
These guys just need to accept their mistake and move on. They can prove to college coaches how good they during summer track. They seem like typical selfish summer track kids.
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Posted on 03/26/2009 00:00 EDT by slxcrunr
if these summer track coaches are soo good why cant they get a job at a high school? there are plenty of places where a coach from another sport must coach track/cc why not go there instead of privateering and ruining it for kids like these?
2) He is mad that Coach Dorris wouldn't let him "help" out this year at Dunc
3) Henderson is pissed that his "Goddaughter got pissed at D'ville and moved to DeSoto (for athletic reasons) and was denied by DeSoto's district committee AND the state committee in Austin.
4) Henderson is getting ALL of his information from a)Coach Love b) Mr. Frazier (a kid's dad who was suspended)and c)the kids.
5) Two of the kids (the hurdlers) had already broken rules earlier in the year that warrented suspensions.
6) The kids were specifically told NOT to run!! This his Coach Dorris's program and he has the right to run when and where he chooses, it is NOT the Cedric Love's show (it is getting a little late in season for him to be coaching track).
I could easliy continue this discussion and as you can see I know what I'm talking about!! The just of the matter is this: The kids BROKE A RULE and a SPECIFIC instruction from a coach and are getting 100% of what they deserve!!!
Great Job Coach Ozee and Coach Dorris keep it up!!
First of all, it's very difficult to understand what you are saying. The key below the "L" key is a period. You should try using it from time to time.
To answer your claim that they weren't unattached, I will just quote Coach Henderson from his e-mail that has been circulating around the state, which is how I caught word of it in South Texas.
"The kids were informed by the Meet Director and Head Boys Track Coach Greg Williams of Lancaster along with other meet officials that it was alright for them to run and no U.I.L. rules will be broken. Matter of fact, the kids were told specifically that they would be considered unattached and that there times would not be recorded."
That to me sounds like they ran unattached at the suggestion of Greg Williams. It is a violation of UIL rules to allow athletes to run unattached at a UIL sanctioned event.
Now I will quote "coach" Willie Henderson from his post on txrunning.com.
"Please allow me to interject a few items here..
1) when the coach informed the team that were not running, the uniforms were turned in at that time. The kids ran in their own shorts and t-shirts;"
If they ran in their own clothes and/or they didn't have a coach present, they are unattached.
Either way, they broke rules. I'm sorry the whole idea of a set of rules is new to you and not something you were used to under the previous regime, but it looks as though things have changed.
It has become obvious that many are turning this into a black vs. white issue instead of considering the fact that some kids broke UIL rules. Not to mention the fact that Lancaster HS broke UIL rules by allowing unattached runners in their track meet. A coach, wether he is white or black, has an obligation to make sure his athletes follow UIL rules. If the UIL steps in, it's ultimately the coach's and AD's tail on the line. Summer track "recruiters" aren't accountable to anyone in the same way that HS coaches are accountable to their school and the UIL. HS coaches have to play by a different set of rules.
To Coward:
#1 You obviously do care what I have to say because you keep responding.
#2 I'm not concerned with being bitten. Is that some kind of threat or are you just blabbering on?
But I see the problem. The HS coaches have the authority when it comes to what their team does in the Lancaster Relays.
The summer track coaches need to stay out of the way when it's not summer, and the athletes need to respect their HS coaches during the season.
I do know, however, that the runners broke rules set forward by the coach and the UIL. The DHS coaches want to stay in compliance with UIL rules and enforce their own rules, so they suspended the runners in question. A program based on insubordination will not experience long-term success. A coach has every right to enforce the rules they put forward.
Welcome to the real world.
all the athletes r African American.
Coach Henderson, your playing of the "race card" just shows that you lack class. When your arguement resorts to the race card, you no longer have a leg to stand on.
“Without Kennedy and Isaac I just dont see Duncanville winning state in track for a long time, yea josh might get 3rd or 4th at state in the open 100 and 2nd or 3rd in the open 200 if he can beat Allens 200 runners in region 1-5A if he gets out and without Kennedy and Isaac I doubt there 4x2 might get out of regionals because everyone knows there 4x1 has no chance with Dre on there and there 4x4 cant win without Kennedy and Isaac even if you have either Kennedy or Isaac on there you need both to win, no one in the State is a better out the block runner other than Isaac on 1st leg and Kennedy is to me will be the fastest 400 runner in the state but as of now the 2nd fastest 400 runner in the state of texas and I hope the coaching staff at Duncanville can forgive these athletes again for the last time and give them the oppurtunity to win the title for them this year and punish them of course but not hurt the team by doing it because this might be the only year maybe for this whole decade that a track team has so much talent and can break so much records like The Duncanville Panther Track team boys of course for 2009 and led by a good coach who will be respected by many and his ATHLETES if he does things in the right way beneficial for him and his team.”
Good afternoon, Mr. Whitmire. My name is xxxxxxxx Henderson. I am sending this email to you and your colleagues to shed some light on a situation at Duncanville High School that is unjust and unfair. Hopefully after reading this, something can be done on your end to assist the parents in righting a wrong.
As of yesterday afternoon, five kids were suspended from running track for 60 days (I'm not sure that there are 60 days left in the school term) by Duncanville's Athletic Director, Kevin Ozee. The kids supposedly broke a U.I.L. rule for basically running in a track meet unattached. The problem with these suspensions is: (1) the kids were told that they could run without limitations and (2) the U.I.L. rule that was supposedly broken has not been identified. The kids that are suspended include seniors Kennedy Daughtery and Issac Ogulande. Both are ranked in the area in the 300 and 110 hurdles, respectively along with running legs on two state ranked relays.
The meet that the kids participated happened on March 14th at the Lancaster Invitational Meet of Champions. Duncanville was scheduled to compete that day but Head Track Coach, Derek Dorris, decided that it was in the best interest of the kids not to compete. He cited health and weather concerns for the reason of not running; even though, he allowed his track team to participate in track meets the previous three Saturdays, to the Lancaster meet, where the weather was far worse than the day in question. The kids were under the assumption that the entire meet was cancelled because that was what the coach indicated to them. Not only was the meet not cancelled, every top track school in the Metroplex was there.
Once the kids arrived and started watching the meet, the kids were bombarded with questions from some of their peers (i.e. Duncanville, Desoto, and Lancaster kids), people from out the area, and the meet officials asking why they were not running (evidently, Coach Dorris failed to communicate w/Lancaster that they would not be participating because the kids were still listed in the perspective lanes). You have to understand that Duncanville went into that weekend with the fastest times in the State of Texas (a 1:26 in the 4x2 and a 3:17 in the 4x4 along a top sprinter in Josh Harris in the 100 and 200 meters), so alot of people came to see them run. The kids were informed by the Meet Director and Head Boys Track Coach Greg Williams of Lancaster along with other meet officials that it was alright for them to run and no U.I.L. rules will be broken. Matter of fact, the kids were told specifically that they would be considered unattached and that there times would not be recorded.
Once it was made known to Coach Dorris that the kids participated in the meet, he promptly suspended them from track practices and the recent track meet this past weekend at T.C.U. Now IF a rule was broken, I do not believe that the kids should be held accountable because they were told by people in authoritative position(s) that it was alright for them to run. All the kids wanted to do was participate and compete against kids on their level as opposed to the ones they had been running against prior. I believe that a permanent solution to a temporary issue has been made. Duncanville 's A.D. has taken away the potential ability of earning a scholarship by not allowing them to perform in some of the top meets (i.e. Sheaner, Texas Relays, etc.)
It should be noted that I do not have a direct relation to the situation. None of the kids are my own. I am a summer track coach who actually lives in xxxxxxxxx . I'm just someone who is trying to get a wrong headed in the right direction before it's too late. It should also be noted that these kids are not troublemakers. Matter of fact, Duncanville was poised to be considered one of the better track teams to come out the Dallas area in a long time. I am just emailing you to hopefully get the parents some needed support and possible publicity on this situation. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me via email or at xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide,
xxxxxxxxxx Henderson
of the team. I pray for these kids, I believe that god will handle it, When i spoke with Coach Dorris he seemed nervous and not confident in what he was saying. and stuttering thought the conversation. kept mentioning it was against UIL. I`m not sure if Coach Dorris know the ruling of UIL. he did not convince me. Are there any other parents on here that has a kid(s) that goes to Duncanville? What can we do?
This is nonsense. Ozee, Dorris, and the rest of those mofos are going to get theirs. God don't like wrong and injustice. If they have a problem with anything that's on this board, tell them to come and talk to me.
While I don't subscribe to quitting anything, I do believe in standing up for what is right. If Dorris doesn't feel the need to reinstate these kids then he shouldn't be given the chance to win a district championship. Without the proper preparation (i.e. track practice and competitive meets), these kids will head to regionals and get ran off the track. I'm afraid if that happens, based on his actions this year, he will wash his hands to the whole situation and throw the kids under the bus. If the remaining kids stand up and say that "this isn't right" he will be without a team. Without a track team to coach, he serves no purpose of being on staff. Once you serve no purpose, you're USUALLY released from your duties. The fruits of his actions are already being noticed and felt. Four (4) of the five (5) kids that did run this past weekend (@ TCU) all pulled or strained hamstrings including Josh. I guess Dorris hasn't figured out that word of mouth can put you out of business as well as put you in business. What do you think willl happen to his track program once word gets out about how he handled this year? He already doesn't have a 9th grade track team.
one coach i talk to last week told me that he talk with coach tolbert during cross country season she was bad mouthing the summer track coaches. he feels if she say that what will see say about the athletes. he feels she can not be trusted. she seem fake to him. he said alot of kids that they recuited have or has ran summer track. keep up the good work Summer Track coaches for volunteering your time for our kids of tomorrow.
Thank you for your insight on this matter. I have been wrecking my brain trying to figure out how the decision and action(s) of the kids who ran could be deemed a suspendable offense. Again, all these kids wanted to do was participate and compete against schools that were either on their level of ability or superior than they are as opposed to the teams they have been going against in recent weeks. At no point when the decision was made by the coaches not to run was the words "You are not allowed to run" or "do not go to Lancaster and attempt to run" or anything of that magnitude ever uttered. I find it unexplainable that you have your track team report to the school by 9:00 in the morning (some arrived as early as 7:00) and you don't arrive until 11:00 only to tell them that they will not participate that day. That's not cool at all!
It is from my understanding, that Coach Dorris and Coach Tolbert is attempting to use the UIL and their rules as a way to steer clear of any controversy. It is also my understanding that they have decided to sit the kids in question for the next 3-4 track meets until the district track meet. I find this as a horrible self-indulging act. Within those meets, the kids will miss theTexas Relays and Jesuit-Sheaner Relays. If you know anything about Texas track, you are fully aware that the stands will be packed with recruiters. By doing this, these so-called adults are taking the ability from these kids to perform so they could possibly get scholarship offers. Allowing these kids to come back for the district track is garbage. You don't need them leading up to district but you need them for district. Can someone please tell me how this fair.
Anyway, if anyone has some information as far further actions that can taken, please email me at . At that time, I will let you know who I am and maybe we can do something about this. Please no-nonsense.
Thanks
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Eric Caro,Kennedy Daughtery, Issac Ogunlade, Gabe Castillo, Christian Rolls, Marcus Stafford, "Tiny", Leander Guy, Akeem Banks, D'odrick Sykes Mr.Clemens and anybody else that i may left off? Congraulations to the following: JOSH HARRIS-- WAKE FOREST, HOWARD SHEPARD -- LOUISVILLE OR SOUTHPLAIN, FREEMAN KELLY--- TULSA , DEMONTRE HURST --- OKLAHOMA SOONER, I am prond of u guys STAY Strong!!!!...
“yes as soon as possible, matter of fact starting tomorrow, and by the way whos gonna take over the program when they get released and everybody read this, #1 4x4 fan says "Duncanville Parent, I can't agree with you more when you said that Coach Dorris is running away from the heat. Although, I call it ducking. As you said, with the talent on that team, there is no need for Duncanville to duck anyone in the state. However, it could be a difference in philosophy, which I don't agree with. There are some coaches out there that think they are doing their track team a favor by not putting them in competitive track meets week in and week out. They like to say that they want their team to peak at the end of the season. I've never believed in this. I believe if you have crisp, short work-outs with timed intervals instead of long untimed marathon work-outs, your runners should always be fresh and their times should come down every week. Then as the season goes on, you should cycle back the workouts and give a day off every now and then if needed. Since a lot of coaches don't do this, some believe that running in the "garbage meets" early will allow their team to peak at the right time. Well, the argument against doing it that way is the 2007 year. Desoto, Lancaster, and Cedar Hill 4x4's all ran against each other most of the year. The three of them had some exiting races and I loved it. But, they did not peak early. All three ran their fastest times at the State Meet in which they had the top three times in the state that year. Desoto and Cedar Hill finished 1st and 2nd in 5A and Lancaster won 4A. Someone stated on this blog earlier that Duncanville's 4x4 would not post fast times early and would peak at District, Regionals, and the State Meet. This could be what Coach Dorris is doing, I don't know. I just know that I don't agree with that philosophy. So guys the person who keeps coming on here as the #1 4x4 fan is really Coach Dorris himself.”
Leander STATE Champs '09
THIS NEWS HAS TRAVELED TO CALI AND NEW YORK ABOUT DUNCANVILLE AND THE COACHING STAFF. THEY R SAYIN WHY IS THE COACHE(S) STILL THERE. I TALK 2 APARENT . SHE ALREADY CONTACTED THE NEWS STATION AND GETTING PARENTS TOGETHER TO TAKE ON D`VILLE. SHE SAID IT WILL GET SHUT DOWN. SHE SAID SHE DON`T CARE DUNCANVILLE DON`T EVER HAVE A TRACK PROGRAM AGAIN. DUNCANVILLE WILL BE ON THE NEWS . HOLD TIGHT . SINCE THE COACHES WANTS TO BE THAT WAY AND SHE IS GONNA BE THIS WAY. AND I`M ON BOARD. I HATE THAT IT HAS 2 COME TO THIS. GOT 2 DO WHAT WE GOT 2 DO.
Kelly all the way. StateChamps '09
This so-called man has destroyed plagues and trophies in front kids left by the previous coach(es) while stating "I'm tired of this old tihs...it's time to create some new history"...HUH?! He has created a chaotic, resentful, and hostile situation between some of his better runners..both still enrolled and transferred from D'ville. Since the end of yesterday's meet, I have heard that he plans on suspending some of the guys who took part in the Lancaster meet. EGO!
With having a track team that consist of kids that could be considered one of the better teams to come out of the Dallas area, he should welcome competition. Instead he would rather build up his trophy case. That's probably one of the reasons that the 2nd largest high school in the nation doesn't field a 9th grade track team. ARE YOU SERIOUS?! I believe that the AD needs to get this man out before it's too late..then again, it was Ozee's fault that we are in this situation in the first place..
Bottom line?...unless things change and I mean quickly, all D'Ville supporters on this blog is going to have to sit back and watch this thing crash and burn before it was able to get up off the ground.
For anyone who wants it, here is the email addresses and phone #s of the people who you wish to complain to or about..Good luck!
Derek Dorris, Head Track Coach - 972-708-2162
Beale Tolbert, "The Real" Head Track Coach- 972-708-2196
Kevin Ozee, A.D. who only cares about the basketball program - 972.708.2150
I heard they had a 4x2 and some 400 runners
“Kennedy and Isaac from Duncanville kind of remind me of Scott and Scotty Aralako from Arlington Bowie, They may not be real life twins but they sure look alike Scott the faster of the 2 ran 1st for Bowie's 4x4 last year and Scotty ran 4th I dont know how Duncanville has there legs but a 3:17 already thats a good job I think thats probably number one in the nation or 2 something like that and of course number one in the state but good job Duncanville and do you guys still have your same relay from last year i think so because Isaac, Kennedy i dont recall the other 2 young men but those 4 boys put on a show last year at regionals last year Isaac there 1st leg put them in 1st and had eveyone in the stands on there feet after scott dropped the stick then there 2nd leg ran pretty good untill the last straight away then desoto's north crowley and south lakes 2nd leg took the lead, then there 3rd leg caught southlake and northcrowley back on the last curve to the last straight then kennedy had everyone in the even more pumped up when nobody thought duncanville would come out of the blue to beat desoto's 3:16 in the prelims and duncanville went 3:18 and shocked everyone when kennedy caught Isah Muhammad and they went 3:15, so a 3:17 already who knows what they will go come time for state...”
The two middle kids in between Issac and Kennedy at the regional and state meets were: Leg #2, Gabe Castillo and #3 Reggie Reed. Issac and Kennedy are both running the same legs as last year but the middle legs are different..at least for now, anyway. the 2nd leg is being held down by Akeem Banks and 3rd leg Jamsion Green.
That 3:17 is fast at this time and that's what worries me. I'm hoping that don't burnout before it's time...
“first of all reggie came back the only reason he left is because he moved, now he is back he cant run on varsity for the whole year due to uil rules and now because of that there is beastlier than ever, and 2nd what 2 runners can beat duncanville's 400 best please dont say Eric Caro and D'odrick because they cant mess with Kennedy, Kennedy is going to split 46 trust me by state and another thing yall are going to win state in the 4x4 lol, Duncanville is all ready going 3:17 while yall are going 3:22 with push and Duncanville's going 3:17 with no push and how are yall also going to match up with its 1st leg on the 4x4 who trust me as well is going 47 earlier than you think matter of fact he went 48 flat last week in the cold out the blocks, and lastly buddy no no no Goodwin will not beast Josh trust me on that trust me matter of fact before I forget Josh will Roll your ass and put a gap on you and look back on you and say pick it up.”
“Really?! "no wind at his back"...dude the wind has been blowing all week. Most of the time, when the wind is gusting, as it has all week, the 100 meters, 110 hurdles, and 200 meters is usually ran with wind. Oh I get it, when Twon ran his race, the powers that be decided to calm the winds down for him...PLEASE!
And you're right, I didn't mention the 4x1...just as I notice that you failed to speak about your famous 4x4. The 4x1 wasn't worth speaking about because we are struggling right now. We won it but the time wasn't impressive (a high 42). Hopefully, once Zay and Chayse get in shape, we're be able to roll out a 41 point w/o Josh. Now that's a track team. Are you guys able to say that Desoto can rock the 4x1, 4x2, and the 4x4 w/o having their top sprinter running on only one of the relays? Don't think so!!!”
“Well great job whoa im really impressed(SARCASM)....Traun did that with basically no wind at his back...and this is josh last chance...he is a senior and anyways i dont hear u sayin notin bout 4x1.i bet i know why..because no matter who is on yalls relay desoto is still going to beat yall!!Oh yeah and Traun didnt run through that 100 cuz guess wat??he was bouta run the 4x2 that went 1.24 the week b4!!!next time b4 u talk make sure yo relay can break into at least low 42 lmao LETS GO EAGLES!!!”
And you're right, I didn't mention the 4x1...just as I notice that you failed to speak about your famous 4x4. The 4x1 wasn't worth speaking about because we are struggling right now. We won it but the time wasn't impressive (a high 42). Hopefully, once Zay and Chayse get in shape, we're be able to roll out a 41 point w/o Josh. Now that's a track team. Are you guys able to say that Desoto can rock the 4x1, 4x2, and the 4x4 w/o having their top sprinter running on only one of the relays? Don't think so!!!
“Hey Traun...Twon or whatever your name is...while you busy eating I got something for you to swallow. Check it out..
I just went to one of the worst track meets ever assembled. It was a track meet hosted by Samuel who had all of 5...that's FIVE teams there. Let's see I believe the teams were Molina, Trinity Christian, Parish Episopal, Duncanville, and Samuel, of course.
1) D'Ville went 1:26 in the 4x2;
2) D'ville went 3:17 in the 4x4; by the way, Isaac went low 48 out of the blocks:
3) JHarris went 10.2 in the 100 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 10.4
4) JHarris went 21.4 in the 200 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 21.6
So while you lamenting about your 1:28 because you were missing a leg (btw, I love it when you clowns mention that you are always missing a runner here and there like that's suppose to mean something. How many do you have? There's only four on a relay...somebody is going to be missing every week) just know that it still isn't the 1:24 that you claimed last week and D'ville ran their times against themselves basically..
Now eat that player!”
“Yeah all of yall haters out there lookin stoopid!!!We went to cedar hill friday and ate them alive check it out...4x1 41.8 4x2 missin a leg but still easily 1.28 and open 100 since u say we dont got a sprinter...lets jus say a certain desoto sprinter burst on to the scene wit a 10.31(handtimed tho...)i swear we bouta eat on everybody and we are going to state...and yall gone have to see US (and me personally)!!!!2nd leg 4x1 2nd leg 4x2 and open 100... Signin out ... we eatin at desoto!!!”
I just went to one of the worst track meets ever assembled. It was a track meet hosted by Samuel who had all of 5...that's FIVE teams there. Let's see I believe the teams were Molina, Trinity Christian, Parish Episopal, Duncanville, and Samuel, of course.
1) D'Ville went 1:26 in the 4x2;
2) D'ville went 3:17 in the 4x4; by the way, Isaac went low 48 out of the blocks:
3) JHarris went 10.2 in the 100 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 10.4
4) JHarris went 21.4 in the 200 ACCUTRACK; add the wind probably a 21.6
So while you lamenting about your 1:28 because you were missing a leg (btw, I love it when you clowns mention that you are always missing a runner here and there like that's suppose to mean something. How many do you have? There's only four on a relay...somebody is going to be missing every week) just know that it still isn't the 1:24 that you claimed last week and D'ville ran their times against themselves basically..
Now eat that player!
“Again, I wouldn't put too much stock in that 1:24 time that was posted for the 4x2. There's a few reason why I'm skeptical:
1) they went 1:31 last week; it's hard for me to believe they dropped seven seconds in a week especially with wind blowing the way that it did on yesterday;
2) 2nd place (Lancaster) went 1:30. In order to go 1:24, you have to be pushed to that kind of output (i.e. just go back to the TSU Relays Results from last year. When Hightower went 1:24 they were pushed by Garland (1:26.86), Westfield (1:26.91), etc. The last place team (Alief Hastings in that heat went 1:29;
3) They couldn't beat Lancaster in the 4x1; it's hard to imagine Desoto beating Lancaster by that large of a margin inthe 4x2; and last but not least, they don't have anybody that' remotely close to running w/Josh Harris. In order to go 1:24, you have to have at least two monsters on your relay, if not three. I don't think Desoto has one.
Outside of those small reasons, I guess it could be possible.”
like there 4x4 will do, but I just cant see there 4x1 doing something because they always leave the pressure on there last leg Josh Harris to do all the work.
“Seriously D'Odrick Sykes, I hate when kids like you sound all proud and arrogant and like your team cant win without you that to me is just pure one man show, and what do you think Duncanville would have done if they had there full relay there as well. They ran without 2 state runners from last years relay i believe there 2nd and 3rd leg due to some complications but hopefull will be resolved soon and they had to be replaced by 2 kids who didnt use the lead to there advantage and split 54's and 53's even though it was cold out there i give them that benefit but come on they still went 3:23:50 thats the 3rd best time in the state as of now and 6th in the nation so give me a break with that talk Mr. Sykes.”
1) they went 1:31 last week; it's hard for me to believe they dropped seven seconds in a week especially with wind blowing the way that it did on yesterday;
2) 2nd place (Lancaster) went 1:30. In order to go 1:24, you have to be pushed to that kind of output (i.e. just go back to the TSU Relays Results from last year. When Hightower went 1:24 they were pushed by Garland (1:26.86), Westfield (1:26.91), etc. The last place team (Alief Hastings in that heat went 1:29;
3) They couldn't beat Lancaster in the 4x1; it's hard to imagine Desoto beating Lancaster by that large of a margin inthe 4x2; and last but not least, they don't have anybody that' remotely close to running w/Josh Harris. In order to go 1:24, you have to have at least two monsters on your relay, if not three. I don't think Desoto has one.
Outside of those small reasons, I guess it could be possible.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that 1:24 for Desoto. They went 1:31 last week and the weather and wind was worse last week than it was yesterday.
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Nat'l Youth: N 3:06.22 7/29/2007 So. Ca. Running Cougars, So
J. Hughes, N. Gutteriez, J. Anderson, R. Wyatts
JO Meet: J 3:06.22 7/29/2007 16 33 So Cal Running Cougar
R Wyatt, J Hughes, N Gutteriez, J Anderson
Team Finals
Finals
1 Track Houston Track 3:12.76
1) DeAndre Thompson 89 2) Kameron Horace 90
3) Xavier Boyd 91 4) Myles Smith 91
2 Team Xtreme 3:16.24
1) DeAndre Hicks 89 2) Danzell Fortson 90
3) Christopher High 89 4) Isaac Murphy 90
3 Junior Speedster 3:17.01
1) Reginald Reed Jr 91 2) Akeem Banks 91
3) Kennedy Daughtery 91 4) Isacc Ogunlade 91
4 Zephyrs TC 3:19.45
1) Christopher Watts 90 2) Jeremy Webber 89
3) Brandon Minor 91 4) Armand Rhone 89
5 Mobile Parks Recreation Dept 3:21.58
1) Mujahid Assad 90 2) Terrance Fleming 91
3) Joshua Johnson 90 4) Tyrell Moore 91
-- 13 Track Eastern Carolina DQ Unsportsmanlike
1) Christopher Herring 89 2) Fuquan Greene 91
3) Anthony Hendrix 90 4) Robett Horton 90
-- 45 Quicksilver DQ Unsportsmanlike
1) Vincent Butler 89 2) Deaundra Dailey 90
3) Charles Robinson 91 4) Amaechi Morton 89
..Whatever, Here is your Proof, D'ville 4x4 Runner is right, It`s on usatf.org.
insert foot into mouth LOL haaaaaa.i believe u do have 2 run indoor in college by da way. "U wanna get away". haaaaa. i`m sorry that was funny!!!!... my bad.
I believe Dorris is a joke of a coach and scared. He scheduled some garbage meets for these kids to help build up his trophy case; not to enhance their abilities. I believe he is running away from "the heat" which is very confusing to me. How do you run away from the heat when YOU are the heat? Mr. Dixon mentioned that he went to the meet on Saturday and was impress by their performance(s). Please don't misunderstand what I am saying, the kids are studs but the competition they ran against was below par. Running against competition like that on a regular basis could come back and bite you in the long run if you're not careful. Other than Cedar Hill, the teams in D'Ville's district is historically garbage in track. You may get a distance runner springled in here and there but that's about it. When are district is that bad, you have to prepare your accordingly.
Some other 5A times times around the state on yesteday:
Conroe - 3:22, Houston Lamar - 3:23, Westfield - 3:25...(same race)
Mayde Creek - 3:24.91, Hightower - 3:26.25, Willowridge - 3:26.43 (same race)
How did the 4x4 look with Josh running on it?
No tension between Believe in Yourself and me. Just trying to make them aware that you have to respect everyone's opinions and thoughts on this blog because you just don't know who's who.
One more thing...word is that Reggie will not be able to run this year because of some sort of transfer rule.