Everyone talks about free speech which is obv important, but what about the 6th amendment which talks about the right to face your accuser among other things. Nice eh? Anyway at least the anonymous people are being more reasonable recently after mark and ryan said something. I still think registration for posting is the way to go. Keep it up and noone will want to do interviews after races. Getting called trashy,classless,not deserving of respect et al without having a chance to fight back is powerfully uncool.
Also for better or worse this society is filled with profanity. Have any of you been in a school hallway recently? Ever been to a PG13 movie? From at least middle school on and in many places elementary school kids hear/use profanity every day. I would concede a bit on the vocab point but mostly its just used for emphasis I would say or as filler. To say this post is verbose or its f@#$ing verbose basically mean the same thing. Using profanity does not reflect on someones character just their word choice. Or does having a lower vocabulary(not that she does obv esp if she went to brown) make you a bad person.
Anyway everyone try to keep it positive then i can spend more time watching video and less time composing this stuff.
I think many were reacting to the interviewee, not Flotrack. And again, only anna is responsible for her conduct. And we are free to comment, remember, free speech. It's like some of you people are all worried about Anna's right to be vulgar, but don't forget, we the viewers also have free speech to comment on our reaction to her.
Real and Raw, you say that most people are "mature" as if cursing is a mature response to anger, stress, or whatever. People w/limited vocabularies often use swearing becaue they are frustrated at the lack of words to draw on thus the language. Mature people usually enjoy interviews that offer a bit more than anger and swearing. Thanks
Flotrack - please do stay Real and Raw, you're doing it right. There are a few folks in the community who feel the need to act as 'language police' and/or to comment on their opinion of someone's character based on 2-minute interviews. But they are only a vocal minority. Most in the community are mature, don't need censors, and don't need to pass judgment on others.
I've already read The Complete Work of The Hardy Boys, and completed my Scouting badges too. We puritans have every right to go online and ALSO give our comments of the vids. thank yu very much!
Maybe we have been too hard on Anna, I guess maybe we expected more and we have our standards too high. But there are those that live up to them. Thanks; Josh McAdams, Jenny B, Lindsay Anderson et all!
Move on said: “Tired of this already, at least until her next episode of "foot in mouth" disease. We need some fresh materiel which I'm sure Anna will provide if she doesn't do well at Worlds.”
If you're tired of it, then why read the thread? Move on and look at something else. Talk about a whiner.
Tired of this already, at least until her next episode of "foot in mouth" disease. We need some fresh materiel which I'm sure Anna will provide if she doesn't do well at Worlds.
if you can't handle bad words then get off the internet and go read the hardy boys or the boy scout handbook. stop picking apart anna's character because she said a few things moments after a disappointing race. you can pass all the judgment that you want but how many of you have had to race on a world stage like this? don't think anything less of her because of something said in the heat of the moment. she offered an excuse but promptly took the blame for it and she is still a damn fine athlete if you ask me. For those of you who actually are going to go read the hardy boys you can't go wrong with the tower treasure. it's the first one.
Annas mind said: “Mark,
I truly enjoy Flotrack. You say athletes feel comfortable speaking their minds to Flotrack. While I have not listened to all of your interviews contained on this site, Anna's is the only one I can recall where the F-bomb was thrown out. Are there many other interviews with similar language? I know on occasion when one of your interviewers has sworn, the language was 'beeped'. Why wasn't this the case with Anna.”
Chris Derrick after breaking the AJR in the 5k was classic! check it out! or don't if you don't like the "f-bomb."
He wasn't even mad or anything. He was just so shocked that whatever popped into his head he would say, love it!
I like Flotrack in the raw form. I equate people using vulgar language with people being honest - just my bias. I like to what the athletes really think -uncensored and unfiltered by the agents and sponsors and USATF.
The real question is how Anna, looking back, feels about having been interviewed when her emotions were so high. Ten minutes late and that interview would have been quite different. Of course, Mark and Ryan could have sh-t canned the interview and done it again a little later.
Without Flotrack keeing it raw, we would never have had the Breaux greer interview!
p.s. I'm a Willard fan
I like "real and raw" and I don't think we were complaining about Flotrack the company, but more commenting on Anna the athlete. Most do not know anna and the only way we do is thru her races and interviews. She is in control of how she acts and speaks, and of the opinions we form. . Also, I think how one conducts themselves after a race is a very good indication of character. it wasn't just the potty mouth but the general tone and anger and blaming on her performance. And I hope Flotrack keeps it real but I also hope they continue to let the people speak and speak our minds about the interviews posted. BTW raw and real doesn't have to be vulgar.
Mark,
I truly enjoy Flotrack. You say athletes feel comfortable speaking their minds to Flotrack. While I have not listened to all of your interviews contained on this site, Anna's is the only one I can recall where the F-bomb was thrown out. Are there many other interviews with similar language? I know on occasion when one of your interviewers has sworn, the language was 'beeped'. Why wasn't this the case with Anna.
for any of you know that know anna, then you know her true character. for those that don't know her, don't read too far into emotions you may see in an interview less than a minute after a race. everyone has said things they might not normally moments after a performance that didn't match the expectations going into it. i know anna was upset, but i appreciate (as i hope you do also), her willingness to talk to us after races even when the don't go as planned.
This is Flotrack and athletes feel comfortable speaking their mind. They talk to us when they are emotional and we get insight to what they are thinking and feeling. Sometimes they drop an F bomb or two and this happens. If you want the cut and dry political interviews keeping complaining, bc soon enough flotrack will turn into every other tv station and we will have boring interviews.
If you complain about every little thing the real and raw interviews will go bye bye.
Anna talks to us bc she likes what we are doing and we are positive. We are trying to have fun with the sport.
It is up to our community on where Flotrack will be in 2 years. Will we continue to be real and raw or will be like every other publications, tv station, and media outlet? I for one want to continue down the path that has made us resonate with athletes and fans a like. I love hearing the real emotion in Anna's interview and she is a badass.
This is Flotrack and we are not politically correct and I hope we stay that way.
mark
dude she's pissed cuz she didn't run how she wanted. everyone is diff and react differently to there poor performances. btw, i dont think she ran bad at all. but if she wants to curse thats her u don't have to listen to it. i know i've had bad races and said a couple curse words so what, just means i have drive to run better not that i'm a sore loser cuz i actually won that race.
Aw, Talk About Class you are so right on! My heart went out to Lindsay A. and I too am soo happy that she gets to run steeple. She is a classy young lady with every bit of intensity and drive as Willard. There are MANY world class runners that handle dissapointment with integrity, unfortunately this interview was not one of them. It's times such as these which shows what people are really all about.
Check out Lindsey Anderson interview on runnerspace.com following her 'disappointing' race at nationals when she finished 4th. Not one swear word but much emotion and sadness (total class and professionalism). I am very happy for her that Anna dropped out of the steeple and Lindsey now will run for the US in Berlin.
Do you think she is the only runner to suffer a 'disappointing' race? There are many other post race interviews on Flotrack where the athlete suffered a 'disappointing' race and did not resort to 'gutter speech'. I refer back to her being a so-called professional. I doubt Nike is too happy with her post race comments either.
then i doubt you've ever been in her position - a position of being one of the best runners in the world where disappointing races are devastating and the only reaction you have is an honest one. or perhaps you are the best and have never been in this position of failure.
either way, i like to think of flotrack.org as being a place of real citizen journalism - perhaps the only true journalism left out there - and i like the fact that they captured a real athlete in the heat of the moment and shared it with the fans of the running community. i dont think their intention was for us to judge anna for her emotions, but rather relate to her and only be cheering for her harder in her future races.
I gave to agree about rowbury and thomas. Plus she is looking for quick success. First, she is so dedicated to the steeple, then when she sees she probably can't podium in it, and not best of U.S she changes course. Just earlier this year she was pedicting what? 9:15 or faster in steeple for herself. NOw it's the 1500, and when it doesn't go smoothly, well, here is the example. I could never see Dena or Kara speaking this way.
rowbury and thomas will have stronger performances than her at worlds. willard has been trying to do too much since april... shes also letting stupid things get to her.
When she says, 'I got jostled', that is an excuse whether or not she accepts the blame for it. She did not get squeezed out on the rail, she chose to run there most of the race and did not leave herself an out. Also, the top two started their 'sprint' before she got 'jostled'.”
When she says, 'I got jostled', that is an excuse whether or not she accepts the blame for it. She did not get squeezed out on the rail, she chose to run there most of the race and did not leave herself an out. Also, the top two started their 'sprint' before she got 'jostled'.
Race is on youtube for now ( search for Herculis 2009 1500 )
Unfortunately the "jostling" incident is not shown (it cuts to a closeup of the bell instead!). Anna was right behind the eventual 2nd place finisher b4 the bell but apparently got squeezed out on the rail, losing out on position big time. She did leave a pretty juicy gap so no surprise.
Though I'm no huge fan of Anna's interview style, to be fair to her she takes the blame herself: "obviously it's not anybody's fault but my own"...so she is NOT making excuses.
At this rate she could be very competitive in Berlin but I hope she doesn't double
Since I know you read this board Anna, Get it done Anna or not. If you had won, the 3 gals behind you would have been saying the same thing you're saying. If and buts were candy and nuts it'd be Christmas every day.
They did what they had to and you didn't. If you are 3rd in Berlin, what will you come up with after that race. You either win or you don't. If you don't win, then except the fact that you ran as best as you could "ON THAT DAY". If you can't run with the top 2, then you can't run with them. If you can, then do it!!!!!! Yes, it's really that simple.
It's called "professionalism" or rather, a lack there of. And you are right, I do have a choice, I just won't watch any of her 'unedited' interviews anymore.
ok, shes not blaming anyone but herself for the race which takes extreme class. not like some that point fingers after their bad races. i dont understand why this is such a hard concept for some to accept. this is the real world and those are real people running those races, good or bad, they're entitled to express their emotions however they f***ing please.
She has quite the repertoire of curse words. If someone were to be impressed by this, she would offer a lot to impress. My, she hit up a lot of them. Also blaming others for her performance. . . oh she was ready for this race except for those darned jostlers -lol.
WaWaWa.
There are a lot of "really intense athlestes" who also don't swear like a truck driver. Being intense has no bearing on whether one uses such foul language. What do they say, that people who swear have the vocabulary of a 14 year old. Some people lack a full range of vocabulary to express themselves so resort to this kind of language. . .
until any of you run a 4:01 or equivalent, i would not criticize anna. she admitted it was her fault in the race and this is just how she feels. she's a BAMF.
I wonder if Ryan ask Anna if he should go a head and post this interview? I also wonder now many times other Athletes have done the same thing (cuss) and interview was not posted. ....Anyway...Anna thanks for allowing Ryan to post this interview.....good luck at worlds!
she has every right to swear if she's dissapointed, we shouldn't pass judgement on her for being intense in the sport. And this interview is right after her race, any one of us would react with emotion after a dissapointing result.
People swear, shes emotional. S*it happens! This is a forum about running. Many times I have been pissed at the outcome of my own races. Its understandable, being in front of all those people only intensifies the experience.
So what if she swears. Shes amazing. She kicks a*s
And when shes pis*ed she drops a few bombs.
SHES human.
All you super conservative whiny bastards need to grow a set.
Word.
yeesh who cares. shes tired after a race and swears- so what. im a million times worse during/after a workout. also like TB said a lot of this talk is because shes a woman if it was a man everyone would be like whatever or think he was intense. 100% noone would call a man "trashy" for cussing.
To all you defending her. YES, she can say what she wants, and represent herself as classily or trashily as she pleases. But, we also have the right, within limits, to express how we feel about her words and actions.
And I for one think she displays not only poor sportsmanship but shows a lack of class with the gutter mouth.
I have a lot of respect for Anna as an athlete, but she has to realize that she is running faster and is considered one of the top professionals in the sport now. With that comes the responibility of acting professional all the time. In today's age you never know when someone is taping you. Anna now has big time sponsors who will EXPECT her to act like a professional. MJ, Armstrong, and even Barkley clean up their language for interviews. Someone said this wan't a national telecast, but it is Flotrack and Flotrack is an international broadcast with many young viewers (including my eight year old daughters who cheer her on in our living room when she's winning races and then hear her cuss up a storm and act pissy when she loses. It's okay to get mad and cuss when you lose, just do it privately.
I get so sick when people talk up a friggin storm when they think a female athlete is being y. If a dude said the same thing, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be getting near as much attention. She's a woman. No, she don't got no apron on and yeah, she said f$%#. Welcome to 2009. Go Anna.
She got "jostled" because she locked herself on the inside rail way too long and allowed the pack to come along side her rather than slide away from the rail and leave herself an out to follow the lead two woman when they took off.
so she swears -- so would I if I was frustrated by the result. Usually we get a toned down version of what people really think. I love to see the fire -- that's what it is all about.
She wasn't that bad, but I still hate to hear the swearing. Still respect her alot. She has big expectations for herself. Now she can use her disapointment and the fire she got from this meet to do something really speacial at worlds.
i think the issue is what image a person wants to project. the cursing jostling comes across as being a sore loser. she's a great athlete and does a great job.
if she wants to curse, then go in' curse in the back after you get in' interviewed.
Buddy Ebsen so clever. But before we rip on her brains too much. Correct me if I'm wrong. She went to Brown isn't that Ivy League? All you weak folks want to see robots out there. Personally I want to see someone with some fire. She has it. Her huge improvement this year says it is carrying her far. So the rest of you (as my kids would say) stop hatin'.
Spunky one that li'l Anna is. Why one time Jethro brung in a fine big white tail buck fer her to skin up into a jacket. Well con sarn if she doesn't nick her thumb with the knife and woooo doggies there was some language! And not enuff piece of that ol' buck left afer that to make a pennypurse outta!
shes hot lol but id be pretty pissed to if i was 3rd or 4th at a lap to go and than someone forces me outside. i mean 3rd or 4th gives u good kicking position and than someone just pushes into u out of nowhere.
Hey, Anna can present herself however she wants. It only reflect (badly) on her. Call it prudish if you like, to me it'as about class. She's mad because she didn't do good-boohoo and someone shoved her.
Give me a break.
She's all happy when she wins but when things don't go well, that's when ones true colors come out.
i second the who cares. she knows she's not interviewing on national t.v. she has lots of fire in her, she says what she wants. let her be her, you be you. none of you are in any position to judge others. fortunately i am, and i say she is all right.
I was unaware that all the people in this (Flotrack) community were such prudes. Come on. She just walked off the track after a race that she wasn't happy with. I'd rather see that fire than someone who shrugs it off and doesn't give a flying f$#%. Oh, sorry. Excuse my language.
I should be able to say what the fu## I want to say, whenr the fu$$ I want to say ti, and however the fu%% I want to say it. As they say, "Fu&& the Fu**ing Fu%%ers".
If she's going to run at a world class level she had better get use to getting jostled. it happens to everyone. No excuses please. Less than classy all around. The cursing isn't necessary either.
I can understand her frustration, but she should not throw the "F-bomb" at the 35 sec mark. Jostling aside, she would not have been able to stay with the top two finishers. They are running at a different level than Anna and most other 1500 runners in the world.
She just had a disappointing race and still takes the time to give an interview. That's a hard spot to be in, and I think she did a great job handling. Do work at Worlds Anna, we're behind you.
Also for better or worse this society is filled with profanity. Have any of you been in a school hallway recently? Ever been to a PG13 movie? From at least middle school on and in many places elementary school kids hear/use profanity every day. I would concede a bit on the vocab point but mostly its just used for emphasis I would say or as filler. To say this post is verbose or its f@#$ing verbose basically mean the same thing. Using profanity does not reflect on someones character just their word choice. Or does having a lower vocabulary(not that she does obv esp if she went to brown) make you a bad person.
Anyway everyone try to keep it positive then i can spend more time watching video and less time composing this stuff.
Maybe we have been too hard on Anna, I guess maybe we expected more and we have our standards too high. But there are those that live up to them. Thanks; Josh McAdams, Jenny B, Lindsay Anderson et all!
“Tired of this already, at least until her next episode of "foot in mouth" disease. We need some fresh materiel which I'm sure Anna will provide if she doesn't do well at Worlds.”
http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234031-us-olympic-track-field-team-trials/68973-breaux-greer-uncensored
Some people are going to say what they are going to say... And it is great to hear from them right after they compete...
I will make sure and miss that one. Please list all the interviews with the "f-bomb" so I know which to avoid.
“Mark,
I truly enjoy Flotrack. You say athletes feel comfortable speaking their minds to Flotrack. While I have not listened to all of your interviews contained on this site, Anna's is the only one I can recall where the F-bomb was thrown out. Are there many other interviews with similar language? I know on occasion when one of your interviewers has sworn, the language was 'beeped'. Why wasn't this the case with Anna.”
He wasn't even mad or anything. He was just so shocked that whatever popped into his head he would say, love it!
The real question is how Anna, looking back, feels about having been interviewed when her emotions were so high. Ten minutes late and that interview would have been quite different. Of course, Mark and Ryan could have sh-t canned the interview and done it again a little later.
Without Flotrack keeing it raw, we would never have had the Breaux greer interview!
p.s. I'm a Willard fan
I truly enjoy Flotrack. You say athletes feel comfortable speaking their minds to Flotrack. While I have not listened to all of your interviews contained on this site, Anna's is the only one I can recall where the F-bomb was thrown out. Are there many other interviews with similar language? I know on occasion when one of your interviewers has sworn, the language was 'beeped'. Why wasn't this the case with Anna.
If you complain about every little thing the real and raw interviews will go bye bye.
Anna talks to us bc she likes what we are doing and we are positive. We are trying to have fun with the sport.
It is up to our community on where Flotrack will be in 2 years. Will we continue to be real and raw or will be like every other publications, tv station, and media outlet? I for one want to continue down the path that has made us resonate with athletes and fans a like. I love hearing the real emotion in Anna's interview and she is a badass.
This is Flotrack and we are not politically correct and I hope we stay that way.
mark
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&member_id=6&video_id=14776
either way, i like to think of flotrack.org as being a place of real citizen journalism - perhaps the only true journalism left out there - and i like the fact that they captured a real athlete in the heat of the moment and shared it with the fans of the running community. i dont think their intention was for us to judge anna for her emotions, but rather relate to her and only be cheering for her harder in her future races.
My all-time favorite athlete no matter what comes out of her mouth.
As a matter of fact, she is now even more badass.
“PJ,
When she says, 'I got jostled', that is an excuse whether or not she accepts the blame for it. She did not get squeezed out on the rail, she chose to run there most of the race and did not leave herself an out. Also, the top two started their 'sprint' before she got 'jostled'.”
When she says, 'I got jostled', that is an excuse whether or not she accepts the blame for it. She did not get squeezed out on the rail, she chose to run there most of the race and did not leave herself an out. Also, the top two started their 'sprint' before she got 'jostled'.
Unfortunately the "jostling" incident is not shown (it cuts to a closeup of the bell instead!). Anna was right behind the eventual 2nd place finisher b4 the bell but apparently got squeezed out on the rail, losing out on position big time. She did leave a pretty juicy gap so no surprise.
Though I'm no huge fan of Anna's interview style, to be fair to her she takes the blame herself: "obviously it's not anybody's fault but my own"...so she is NOT making excuses.
At this rate she could be very competitive in Berlin but I hope she doesn't double
They did what they had to and you didn't. If you are 3rd in Berlin, what will you come up with after that race. You either win or you don't. If you don't win, then except the fact that you ran as best as you could "ON THAT DAY". If you can't run with the top 2, then you can't run with them. If you can, then do it!!!!!! Yes, it's really that simple.
There are a lot of "really intense athlestes" who also don't swear like a truck driver. Being intense has no bearing on whether one uses such foul language. What do they say, that people who swear have the vocabulary of a 14 year old. Some people lack a full range of vocabulary to express themselves so resort to this kind of language. . .
So what if she swears. Shes amazing. She kicks a*s
And when shes pis*ed she drops a few bombs.
SHES human.
All you super conservative whiny bastards need to grow a set.
Word.
And I for one think she displays not only poor sportsmanship but shows a lack of class with the gutter mouth.
Better luck at Worlds
if she wants to curse, then go in' curse in the back after you get in' interviewed.
Give me a break.
She's all happy when she wins but when things don't go well, that's when ones true colors come out.
Not too arrogant..I don't care who you are, don't place yourself so much above everyone else. No one is 'that great'.
I am very excited to see what is in her future, keep it up girl!
Live long and prosper