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#49
  June 30, 2008 at 1:19pm
Ryan, we're so proud of you... proud of your athletic accomplishments but even more proud that you're using your running to raise funding and advocacy for children and communities in Africa.

http://www.teamworldvision.org
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#48
Connor Schneider   May 9, 2008 at 5:48pm
Anyone who has worked as hard as Ryan, has run for a spot on the Olympic Team, has done what he has done and asked what he was asked in this interview; would probably be saying exactly what he said.
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#47
Sduncan_x   May 5, 2008 at 6:00pm
boycotting is an effective tool. But is too unrealistic to use without unanimous global support, which the U.S. definately does not have. It is a bad idea because it does ruin our Olympic athletes hopes. It also is a bad idea because the Olympics is rooted in international cooperation. Logic is not really slipping and sliding, those are three supporting arguments to the same idea: Boycotting the Olympics is not the right tool to be used in order to help the Tibetans. The best way to help those who are oppressed, underpriviledged, and generally dont have the same equal opportunities around the globe is to do our best to help them, and take advantage of the better situation we were dealt to the best of our abilities. As sad as it sounds, REAL world peace and equality for all is as real as unicorns, as much as I hate to say/admit it. And "kansas73" I am pretty sure everyone is hypocritical in some sense (not that is is an excuse for anyone), but lets be serious, if he is that terrible of a person and is a scam artist, explain to me the reasoning behind him recieving the Nobel Peace Prize?
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#46
STEVEN TOTO   May 5, 2008 at 5:21pm
The Dali Lama is a scam artist! Most hypocritical man on the planet...

http://www.westernshugdensociety.org/en/hypocrite-dalai-lama-report-from-india
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#45
Whatever   May 5, 2008 at 10:20am
the logic used in arugments here keeps slipping and sliding all over the place. Is boycotting a bad idea because it is ineffective as a tool to halt repressive or otherwise unethical acts? Or is it a bad idea simply because Olympic athletes have worked too hard to have their dreams dashed by political acts? Or is it a bad idea because the Olympics is an event rooted in international cooperation and therefore should go on regardless of conflict or repression, even if that conflict or repression occurs within the host nation in the year of the Olympics? These are all legitimate responses, but they appeal to quite different logics (and evidence, if there is any).
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#44
Peter_x   May 5, 2008 at 7:28am
When we boycotted the Olympics when the USSR invaded Afganistan, did the Soviets pack-up and leave? NO! Boycotting won't do anything except let them win the Olympics
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#43
Charles Mitchell   May 5, 2008 at 2:06am
that last post is from me not tiger8814
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#42
Joby Peake   May 5, 2008 at 2:05am
boycotting the olympic games will not end any type of mistreatment of the people in tibet. the onlything that will happen is that american athletes will be out of chance to chase their dreams. because the united states does not go to china to compete will not end any type of world problem. we as americans need to realize that just because we SAY something is bad does not mean that people around the world are going to stop what they are doing. we need to go take action against these evil people. the only way to get things done sometimes is to use force. boycotting the olympics because they are in china is the worst idea i have ever heard. it will solve nothing and ruin the dreams of hundreads of americans. the olympic games should not be forced into political or world affairs. it is a time of competition between contries. there is no need to bring politics into athletics. we should boycott the boycotting of the olympics.
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#41
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 7:46pm
peter_x: Do you mean to say we should ignore repression and atrocity simply because it happens everywhere? Or are you merely making the point that it's easy to understand why a movement is gathering to support Tibetan self-determination given that the Olympics will take place in China? The latter is clearly true. And I don't think it means that the movement is in any way morally bankrupt or lacking in rationale.
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#40
Peter_x   May 4, 2008 at 7:33pm
the only reason people care about what China is doing is b/c the Olympics happen to be there this year. Atrocities a thousand-times worse are happening elsewhere in the world (Darfur, Chechnya, etc.)
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#39
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 6:39pm
hahaha tell me about it
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#38
Tie Bet?   May 4, 2008 at 6:27pm
Tie bet, huh? is that next to eye rack?
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#37
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 5:32pm
I gotta run. It's been a enjoyable discussion, even if we don't agree. I'll be back later to watch the Cardinal races tonight!
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#36
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 5:16pm
read top to bottom again
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#35
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 5:16pm
I think we should let them compete for the chance at a medal and their dreams. End of story. So what if we're "privileged" enough that we can forget our troubles for a bit? What should we "privileged" individuals do, NOT chase our dreams and NOT support those who are priviliged enough to have a chance at theirs because some people on the planet suffer and aren't as privileged/lucky? Ryan deserves every chance at fulfilling his dreams that he can get, regardless of how much suffering and terrible things are going on in the world.
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#34
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 5:15pm
I think everyone should focus on helping those less fortunate around the world, but if we only focus on the negative and the gloomy side of life and those who are unfortunate, waking up every day is going to suck. Try and look at the glass half full sometimes. Yes it is unfortunate that people suffer, and we should never ignore that. But its not a mortal sin to take two weeks and celebrate the achievements of a select amount of special human beings that actually make their ideas of hopes and dreams into a reality. But that is besides the point and slightly off topic. My point is that to execute a successful boycott of the Olympics is unrealistic. You can read the article I had down below about how even the Dalai Lama thinks its a bad idea to Boycott the Olympics. There is no point to boycotting something to make a powerful statement about a movement/group, if the leader of the movement/group you are trying to make the statement about disagrees with your stance. It seems that one of the only platforms in which boycotts have been unsuccessful in the past has been the Olympic Stage.
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#33
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 4:47pm
ht: I know that Olympic athletes have worked like crazy and sacrificed an awful lot to get where they are. Someone close to me has gone to the Olympics, so I've seen this at a personal level. I take this very seriously. But I think we should take much more seriously the fact that populations throughout the world are regularly repressed, and certainly not only by the Chinese state. As moral beings, we should be concerned about the world we live in. An Olympic boycott is certainly not the only way (and it certainly isn't the best way) to go about trying to force a more just world, but it would certainly be a start for people throughout the world to come together in support of justice and against state repression.
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#32
Ht   May 4, 2008 at 4:37pm
I didnt want to restate everything you said, "sduncan", because you haev already stated my views on the subject, as well as the truth in the situation. Sorry for attacking you "whatever", I just find it ridiculous for someone to propose crushing these athletes dreams, and inturn making the olympics political, without causing any change, as shown by the cold war. However, I do believe we should boycott the opening ceremonies, and I really hope the situation the Chinese labor camps and problems with Tibet, are solved expediately, for these things are truely horrific, and no one can argue with that.
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#31
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 4:18pm
sduncan: what you say that I'm proposing is not at all what I'm proposing. I was merely pointing out that boycotts of various sorts are used quite frequently as political and economic tools. A boycott can be extensive, long-standing, and crushing (as in the case of Cuba) or it can be pretty meaningless. My point was that boycotting the Olympics could be a powerful tool to instigate some kind of change - in other words, that it wasn't necessarily useless, as some have argued below. I don't buy the argument that the Olympics is about cooperation so that we can momentarily forget our troubles - in large part because it's only the privileged of the globe who have the power and opportunity to forget about the troubles of others. In this case, Tibetans who are struggling for the right to self-determination don't have the power to refuse to 'forget' about their troubles; they are instead forced to do so. All of that to say that I think that boycotting (and other explicitly political acts, like having Bush boycott the Opening Ceremonies) should be on the table as tools to help others in their struggle for justice and freedom.
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#30
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 3:57pm
ht "whatever" is entitled to his/her opinion. Don't attack him/her unless you have a relevant point to dispute. calling him/her an ignorant moron without backing it up with some kind of reason does nothing but frustrate everyone. Lets keep the arguments somewhat civilized
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#29
Ht   May 4, 2008 at 3:52pm
"whatever" you are completely and brightly labeling yourself as an ignorrant moron right now. Luckily nothing you think (incorrectly think, that is)will change anything. sduncan is right on all matters of the subject.
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#28
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 3:50pm
easy does it "whatever" I think I can read fairly well. I understand that the United States has alot of political power across many global stages. But lets try and stay relevant to the Olympics here. Im going to go out on a limb and attempt to understand and breakdown what you feel is the right thing to do based upon what you've presented is an effective strategy that the US uses to boycott: In order to effectively send a message to China about the mistreatment of Tibetans the United States HAS to boycott the Olympics. IF they were to boycott the Olympics they would have to use their political and economic power to pursuade (-in other words force) other countries not go to to the Olympics as well. And the United States would then have to attempt to distance itself as well as the countries that depend on it from China on almost every global platform in order to let China know we're angry. Then after all that China would finally realize that what they are doing is wrong and stop? Sounds kind of like an extreme/radical idea. All a boycott would do is aggravate US-China relations even more. Like I said; the Olympics is about PUTTING ASIDE DIFFERENCES in the name of sportsmanship and competition. What better political statement is there than to participate, regardless of past grievances?
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#27
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 3:16pm
'sduncan': You don't read very well. Not, it appears, do you pay much attention to the news. How might we characterize the way in which the US government treats Hamas, the democratically elected government of Palestine? The US strategy is one of non-engagement - in other words, one of boycott. The ramifications are more serious because the US has also withdrawn economic support (ie, economic boycott) for the Palistinian government and bureacracy, and US power is significant enough to make the boycott extend beyond its own actions to induce similar boycotts from countries that depend on the US (e.g., Canada), but the issue is quite similar. In this case, the US boycott has had very important consequences for the lives of Palestinians. We might also think abou the case of the US boycott of diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba over the last half-century. Boycott, in other words, can be a very effective strategy to achieve political goals. Of course, an Olympic boycott that did little more than refuse to send athletes would be ineffective. But an Olympic boycott could be much larger and have a much greater impact than the type of boycott you seem to have in mind.
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#26
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 3:10pm
Politics are everwhere - it's just a matter of whether or not you pay attention to them. Participating in the Olympics is a political act, just as protesting the passage of the Olympic torch is, just as choosing to visit (or not) a highly controversial war memorial in Japan is, just as giving the Black Power salute on the Olympic podium is, just as choosing to believe that inequality is natural and necessary when it isn't you who has to suffer the pains of said inequality, and so on and so on.
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#25
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 3:09pm
"Whatever" you are extremely nieve if you think that making a statement will convince the Chinease Government to do anything. I can see it now: "Oh man the athletes don't like what we're doing to Tibet? Well now we HAVE to stop!" Lets try and stay in reality for the sake of an intelligent argument. Of course the Olympics is a political event, but first of all it is an event about peace and good will between nations (if only for a couple weeks). Like I said before, If you have a problem, dont watch.
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#24
Leo_x   May 4, 2008 at 2:43pm
Video issues - just click the link (Fox Business) in the paragraph and watch in from Fox' website.
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#23
Leo_x   May 4, 2008 at 2:41pm
Just remember the Carter lead boycott of 1980.

The Russians remain in Afghanistan well after the boycott and the only ones who remember the protest are those that suffered from being denied the opportunity. An Olympic boycott means nothing to issues that should be dealt with in a political arena%u2026not at a sports stadium.
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#22
Xc   May 4, 2008 at 2:05pm
yeah, video won't play
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#21
Please Fix   May 4, 2008 at 1:30pm
The video doesn't play.
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#20
Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 1:25pm
Boycotting won't solve the problems of Tibetans - no one is saying it will. But it most certainly will serve as a political strategy to force China to engage with the problem in a more meaningful way, and it will focus greater attention on China's efforts in doing so. The Olympics might not be an explicitly political event, but how and when we participate certainly has political repercussions. The world is intensely political no matter what you think. I would support a boycott. If not a boycott, they I think some statement should be made by teams and athletes in support of those persons in China (and elsewhere) struggling for greater control over their own fortunes. It's also worth saying that this is a global issue - a very similar argument could be made for boycotting an Olympics in the US, where the government and a good many corporations engage in massive abuses of human and labor rights throughout the world.
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#19
China   May 4, 2008 at 12:43pm
boycotting doesn't solve anything, the Olympics would still go on regardless, we should just boycott anything made in china, that simple.
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#18
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 11:51am
I know it wont get boycotted, it just gets me heated that people think thats going to be a solution
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#17
Hello_x   May 4, 2008 at 11:37am
the video won't load!!!!
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#16
Blakemitchell_x   May 4, 2008 at 10:56am
I agree with jake. I don't understand why anybody is getting worked up about a "potential" boycott. It's simply NOT going to happen... No how, no way. The chances of a boycott happening are about as slim as Bush suddenly pulling out of Iraq, if not even more far-fetched, actually. Bush has no practical (or even political) incentive to boycott whatsoever. Plus, there's not even a strong public outcry supporting a boycott. If there's anything good that came from Carter's 1980 Boycott, it's that it ensured we'll never do it again in our lifetime, simply because it was so spectacularly ineffectual and accomplished nothing good in the short or long-term. Nothing at all. The lesson learned from1980 is that no sitting president is going to take such a drastic step that a) accomplishes nothing politically on the international level, and b) has such a damaging effect politically on the national level. An Olympic boycott is just bad politics all around.
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#15
Jake Alexander   May 4, 2008 at 10:21am
There is zero percent chance that these Olympics will be boycotted by the U.S. I'm not even sure why this is getting so much media attention, since it's just not going to happen. The mistake was made when the IOC, which is largely comprised of aristocrats and corrupt tyrants anyway, gave the Games to China. Punishing the athletes would just be pointless and cruel. As for Tibet, the sad reality is that it is now part of China. Period.
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Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 10:07am
read those 3 from top to bottom starting from "ignorance is bliss..." Plus check out the link, it was an article I found. I respect their opinion, and they can believe whatever they want, but I have every right to come up with a counter argument as well
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#13
Realist   May 4, 2008 at 10:06am
I thought about it, instead of boycotting the olympics, which will have no effect on any decision makers in the Chinese government.
Simply boycott Chinese products. If you want a response, make a statement in the form of an economic boycott. All of you armchair quarterbacks should step up and do something yourself instead of calling on athletes to put aside their dreams and careers. If you purchase Chinese products, in effect, YOU are financing the deaths of Tibetans. Ryan Hall isn't hurting anyone by running. IT would be a total shame if we were to boycott the games.
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#12
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 10:04am
ignorance is bliss. Obviously you are not a competative athlete if you are against the olympics. He makes a poor argument? Look at your argument! You argument is based off of your own personal opinion, which holds absolutely no validity at all. Someone please give me a logical argument backed up by facts for the reasons why we should boycott the Olympics. Don't just say "he's self absorbed" and "sports and Olympics should be prepared to take a back seat at times" because that is your opinion and has no actual grounds in an intelligent argument. The Olympics has always been a time where countries are supposed to put aside their differences for a little bit, and come together in the name of sportsmanship and competition.
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#11
Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 10:04am
Don't get me wrong, I sympathize 100% with the tibetan's cause, and I can't say I am a big fan of China. I can't even say that im Ryan Hall's biggest fan either. But Please explain to me how in reality Boycotting the Olympics will help the Tibetans? In reality all it does is effect our athletes. If it did not work in 1980, please tell me how it will be different in a positive sense now? THE DALAI LAMA HIMSELF IS EVEN AGAINST BOYCOTTING THE OLYMPICS: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3562971.ece
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Sean Duncan   May 4, 2008 at 10:03am
If you don't like what's going on, then don't watch. I WILL be watching the Olympics however. And when I watch I won't be rooting for USA, I'll be rooting for a 25-year old marathoner chasing his childhood dreams. No matter how ignorant you are, you have no right to deny somone the chance to achieve their lifelong dreams. Go for the Gold Ryan. You've worked hard, and you deserve it.
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#9
Dalai Lama   May 4, 2008 at 9:57am
if u really want to support our cause.. go run at beijing win the marathon and when you get ur 2 min of fame on tv or when you get a medal wear a free tibet shirt that would mean a lot more than boycotting it.
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#8
Realist   May 4, 2008 at 9:33am
There are other ways to protest what is happening in Tibet than ruining the dreams of our olympic athletes. The olympics are not supposed to be political. People who think boycotting the Olympics will change anything in Tibet are misguided. All it will do is throw away all of the hard work and dreams of our best athletes.
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#7
Dfd   May 4, 2008 at 9:04am
makes a poor argument for not boycotting...comes across as very selfish..who cares about his personal story when tibetan lives are on the line..seriously..howself absorbed can you be?
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#6
Haha   May 4, 2008 at 8:06am
I love time delays!!
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Whatever   May 4, 2008 at 8:01am
Self-serving logic. I can appreciate that Ryan and others want to compete, but people's struggles for control over their own lives are clearly more important than the Olympics. Whether or not that means that a boycott is called for in this particular case is another question, but I think we need to accept that sports and the Olympics should be prepared to take a back seat at times.
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#4
Yeah   May 4, 2008 at 7:03am
big time on FOX tv. conservative punk.
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Whoa   May 4, 2008 at 1:46am
wow Ryan on big time TV....crazy
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June 10, 2009
Ryan Hall is questioned on Fox Business about the possibility of an olympic boycott.

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