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Kenenisa wins 5k, Ritzenhein sets American Record at Zurich Golden League 2009

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Uploaded by Ryan From Flotrack | August 28, 2009

Kenenisa wins 5th Golden League in 5000M- Amazing Finish http://www.diretube.com - Ethiopian Video Sharing Site.

American Dathan Ritzenhein set the American Record in 12:56

Ritz's Splits
30.9 [15th], 61.8 [1:32.7] [15th],
61.8 [2:34.5] [15th], 61.3 [3:35.8] [15th],
62.7 [4:38.5] [15th], 62.2 [5:40.7] [14th],
62.8 [6:43.5] [12th], 63.9 [7:47.4] [11th],
62.9 [8:50.3] [9th], 62.9 [9:53.2] [8th],
62.5 [10:55.7] [7th], 60.4 [11:56.1] [3rd],
60.2 [3rd]
2:00.6 for his last 800, 4:06 last 1600.

Official Results - Men - 5000 Metres
Pos Athlete Nat Mark Pts
1 Kenenisa Bekele ETH 12:52.32 20
2 Edwin Cheruiyot Soi KEN 12:55.03 16
3 Dathan Ritzenhein USA 12:56.27 14
4 Vincent Kiprop Chepkok KEN 12:58.17 12
5 Moses Ndiema Kipsiro UGA 12:59.27 10
6 Joseph Ebuya KEN 13:00.22 8
7 Moses Ndiema Masai KEN 13:06.16 6
8 Silas Kipruto KEN 13:09.08 4
9 Leonard Patrick Komon KEN 13:17.43 3
10 Micah Kipkemboi Kogo KEN 13:18.57 3
James Kwalia C'Kurui QAT DNF
Bekana Daba ETH DNF
Mark Kosgey Kiptoo KEN DNF
Thomas Pkemei Longosiwa KEN DNF
Sammy Alex Mutahi KEN DNF

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Comments70 comments

2 years ago

this guy is such a baller

Chuck 3 years ago

I just went from 6 to 12

voiceovwisdom 3 years ago

stop pluggin'

smacktooth 3 years ago

NIKE-CROSOFT? Are you serious? You imagine the nike training group to be a gigantic corporate monstrosity? You don't find that excessive? I agree with Chris, you guys are nuts.

danny ayres 3 years ago

matt tegenkamp just ran 12:58 on the 4th. 2 Americans under 13 minutes!

wow 3 years ago

i love these announcers, so much more knowledgeable than anyone on nbc

NIKE-CROSOFT 2 3 years ago

Correction...Ritz COULDN'T BREAK 2:10 for the marathon as recently as April of of this year-(2009 London Marathon) after 6 Years of being a Pro Runner...NIKE-CROSOFT--"WE BUILD RUNNERS, ONE COMPUTER AT A TIME" :)

Real Effects of Simulators 3 years ago

The effects of "Live High, Train Low" (LHTL) using Altitude Simulators are REAL...Ritz's 12:56 5k blatantly prove that point. This will cause more Elite Runners to use Altitude Simulators to LHTL because of Ritz's dramatic improvement (his previous Personal Best was 13:16)

Technology changes everything, INCLUDING RUNNING, so to stay competitive, ALL Elite runners will eventually have to use Technology in their Training, or get left behind. Americans should enjoy this TEMPORARY Technological advantage while it lasts because the East Africans will eventually use the same Technology to improve their performances.
Winning in the Future will be more about Technology than Natural Ability. For example, scientists can already manipulate Genes to improve endurance.
http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2004/08/64659

Frank 3 years ago

Wow. Racing at its finest. He didn't panic when he was running dead last. Stuck to his plan and closed hard!!!! Awesome breakthrough for him. Should be a huge confidence builder for him to draw from in future races. I expect to see him running at another level now. His stock, not to mention Coach Alberto's, just went up big time!!!
Good going, Ritz!!!!!

Bob 3 years ago

Great how the commentators were clueless about it being an American record -- "Great personal best".

Way to go Ritz! I saw you run your senior year state final back in high school... you were, and still very, very fast. My buddy couldn't catch you :)
Best wishes

New Nike "AIR ZERO-GRAV" ? 3 years ago

There is technology in the footwear..... where do we draw the line?
Precisely...Where do we draw the line between Technology and Sports ? Is sports becoming more of a Technology Competition ? If steps aren't taken to limit Technology in Sports, Nike will eventually create something like the Nike "Air Zero-Grav", which allows their runners to compete at a fraction of their bodyweight...Of course this is hypothetical, but because of the murky boundaries between Technology and Sports, it's highly probable.

You're absolutely right about Ritz being fast and tough. He got 3rd in the 2001 Jr. World XC Championships, so he DEFINITELY has the Natural Ability to contend with the World Beaters.

RITZ!! 3 years ago

WOW brought tears to my eyes!
When I first started running I remember Kennedy and his 12:58! But this is a huge PR! Great things to come!

Now Im gonna go run a really hard workout! I was a bit inspired!
THANKS RITZ!!!

3 years ago

There is technology in the footwear, but I don't think technology diminishes what the person does on race day. The question is where do we draw the line? I think altitutude simulators are perfectly fine. It wouldn't matter if DR had pressurizers or whatever, the guy is still fast and still would have run around 13 minutes anyway, the guy is amazing regardless.

Man vs. Machines 3 years ago

Chris, I like the conviction of your arguments...However, Ritzenhein's performance clearly shows that the MOST EFFECTIVE "Live High Train Low" (LHTL) method is to use Altitude Simulators. If your proposed "No-Tech Alternatives" are so effective, why did it take a runner, AIDED by an Altitude Simulator to break Bob Kennedy's 5k American Record ? Why didn't a runner using a "No-Tech Alternative" break it ?

The answer is that Altitude Simulators, though EXPENSIVE, are MORE EFFECTIVE & MORE PRACTICAL than physically travelling from Altitude to Sea Level to train. Since using Altitude Simulators is the BEST WAY to Live High & Train Low, it HIGHLY FAVORS PRIVILEGED athletes who currently have access to them.
But today's state of the art is tomorrow's common practice...Further stunning performances like Ritz's will prompt the rest of the world's Elite Runners to use LHTL technologies. Perhaps the cost of Altitude simulators will decrease over time like most tech gadgets,but again, this begs the question of how much Technology should be allowed in sports before it becomes a Technology Competition rather than an Athletic Competition ?
L.Y.-Michigan State Alumnus

Chris Harland-Dunaway 3 years ago

Is Technology The New Sports: Just because I did not acknowledge your main point that there could come a point where sport is unfairly influenced by too much technology did not mean that I did not understand your point and/or agree/disagree with it. It was very clear that I disagreed with your point that East Africans are unable to replicate "Live High Train Low Technology". Furthermore it frustrates me that after I clearly laid out a real life example where I pointed out that in Boulder, CO, it is possible for any athlete to "LIve High and Train Low", you ignore my central point is that it can be made CHEAP and inexpensive. The drive from 10,000 ft. to 5,000 ft. is not very long at all in Boulder. For some reason you have the impression that a descent from high altitude has to take hours in a car. This is not always true because the right geography can be found to accommodate a quick "High to Low" altitude transfer.

Furthermore, the East African athletes who are going to attempt to replicate "Live High Train Low" benefits are going to be a part of training groups and will most certainly run in shoes provided to them and have access to a car, bicycle, or a bus to travel to lower altitudes in a short amount of time. Whether you intended to or not, painting some kind of picture in which accomplished athletes in East Africa don't have access to shoes and/or a car ride is completely crass and misinformed.

Is Technology the New Sports ? 3 years ago

Hey Chris :) You missed my points about Technology vs. Natural Ability & Nike "Air Zero Grav". I NEVER said the NIKE Altitude Project was cheating, nor am I alleging that Ritz is a cheater...I AM asking where do we draw the line between Technology and Sports ? How much Technology is TOO MUCH Technology in Athletic Competitions ?

Technology threatens to change Athletics Competitions into TECHNOLOGY Competitions, which is not what Sports is about. The nature of Sports competitions is to determine the BEST ATHLETE, NOT which ATHLETE HAS THE BEST TECHNOLOGY. Look at those Controversial Swimsuits from the 2008 Olympics...Michael Phelps recently lost to a guy wearing a High-Tech Swimsuit...Is this the Future of sports, where the BEST ATHLETES lose to lesser athletes who have the BEST TECHNOLOGY ? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/michael-phelps-loses-to-g_n_246281.html
As for your point that "Live High, Train Low Technology" (LHTLT) is readily available to anyone who seeks it, I DISAGREE. Alot of East Africans don't even have shoes when they start running, let alone cars....Your point that one can rent a shack at Altitude, and drive down to Sea Level to train, proves my point that LHTLT users have to have Significant Financial Resources. Sports should be about Athletic Ability, not money and technology.

Is TECHNOLOGY the New Sports ? 3 years ago

Hey Chad :) You missed my points about Technology vs. Natural Ability & Nike "Air Zero Grav". I NEVER said the NIKE Altitude Project was cheating, nor am I alleging that Ritz is a cheater...I AM asking where do we draw the line between Technology and Sports ? How much Technology is TOO MUCH Technology in Athletic Competitions ?

Technology threatens to change Athletics Competitions into TECHNOLOGY Competitions, which is not what Sports is about. The nature of Sports competitions is to determine the BEST ATHLETE, NOT which ATHLETE HAS THE BEST TECHNOLOGY. Look at those Controversial Swimsuits from the 2008 Olympics...Michael Phelps recently lost to a guy wearing a High-Tech Swimsuit...Is this the Future of sports, where the BEST ATHLETES lose to lesser athletes who have the BEST TECHNOLOGY ? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/michael-phelps-loses-to-g_n_246281.html
As for your point that "Live High, Train Low Technology" (LHTLT) is readily available to anyone who seeks it, I DISAGREE. Alot of East Africans don't even have shoes when they start running, let alone cars....Your point that one can rent a shack at Altitude, and drive down to Sea Level to train, proves my point that LHTLT users have to have Significant Financial Resources. Sports should be about Athletic Ability, not money and technology.

Read a Book 3 years ago

OMG! Ritz took it to them, and left everything on the track. Incredible performance.

Smart cameraman 3 years ago

One of my fellow shutter bugs almost got run over at the first turn. Thanks to another for pulling him off lanes.

Chris Harland-Dunaway 3 years ago

The claim that "Live High, Train Low" methods are cheating and/or unfair is utterly absurd, especially the claim by "NEW Nike "AIR" ZERO-GRAV" that this type of training is unavailable to East Africans. First of all, the benefits of "Live High, Train Low" can be replicated on any continent and most countries. For example, one can rent a place or camp at around 10,000 feet in Boulder, Colorado, for example. Within a short drive, an athlete who lives at this 10,000 ft. altitude can arrive at under 5,000 ft. to work a job and/or train at fast paces. Anything under 5,000 ft. is not going to greatly affect your ability to train at fast paces, just ask the Lee Emmanuel and the Lobos in New Mexico. You have to be gung-ho to do this obviously, but anyone could train this way on the cheap and these opportunities are easily available in Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America. The only thing Nike does is making living/training in this environment much much easier on their athletes, Nike is not affording an advantage that is somehow unreplicable. To even imply that Ritz's race results are even vaguely synthetic is unbelievable to me.

As for the East Africans somehow being deprived of altitudes advantages, the average altitude of Kenya, for example, is around 6,500 ft, and the Ethiopian highlands have an altitude ranging from 6,500 ft to 13,000 ft. Certainly in these countries, athletes could find living situations similar to my Boulder, CO example. As I said before, the "Live High, Train Low" method is replicable around the world, and the same applies to the East Africans. The East Africans probably don't utilize this strategy (Of course I don't know for sure if all training groups in East Africa do or do not use it) because they are ridiculously dominant. Clearly, "ZERO-GRAV" and "Natural Ability vs. Technology", you are not fully informed of opportunities available to all people, you just have to look around. As they say, "Winners find a way".

NEW Nike "AIR" ZERO-GRAV ? 3 years ago

the norwegian nordic ski team applied "live high train low" technology and several years later cleaned up the medals at the olympics. so nike was not the first to do it.
I agree with your point that Live High, Train Low technology is not "new",however, it is VERY EXPENSIVE, which limits its use to those with Wealthy Corporate Sponsors like the Nike Altitude Project Members or those with Wealthy Government Sponsors like the Norwegeian Ski team.

Use of this Technology is UNFAIR to those who don't have access to it, like many of the East Africans, so its use will eventually tilt the playing field heavily in favor or those privileged enough to use it. (you did say the Nordic Ski team cleaned up the Olympic Medals after using Live High, Train Low Technology)
This begs the question of how much Technology is TOO Much Technology in Sports ? Think of the controversial "Hi-Tech Swim Suits" from the 2008 Olympics, or Overly "Springy" Drivers in Golf. It threatens to turn Sports into a competition of "Who has the Better Technology" rather than who is the Better Athlete. Whats to Stop Nike from introducing "Semi-Anti-Gravity Shoes" like the "Air Zero-Grav" (i made that up) so their runners can compete at a Fraction of their Body Weight ?
Technology and Sports Performance is a difficult matter because everyone wants to win, but Sports should be about Athletic Ability not an athletes use of Advanced Technology to Artificially Improve their Athletic Ability.

egun 3 years ago

" . . .if anything, he's GAINING on bekele . . ."

gives me chills every time i hear it.

?? 3 years ago

What about training on a treadmill in a small room with no windows?

Minor correction 3 years ago

There isn't any less oxygen in the air at altitude, just less partial pressure of oxygen so it doesn't absorb into the blood stream as readily.

Continue

David Fergus 3 years ago

the norwegian nordic ski team applied "live high train low" technology and several years later cleaned up the medals at the olympics. so nike was not the first to do it.

AL O 3 years ago

Arthur Lydiard is the prophet.....do marathon training (aerobic running) for as long time as possible and then 12-16 weeks of hard hill,anaerobic training....it's so simple and so hard

Natural Ability vs. Technology 3 years ago

Africans have environmental advantages over non-Africans. What do we do, expect them to stay in USA for 5 years before they are able to compete?
Read the links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Oregon_Project
http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.5/the-oregon-project.html

The Nike Altitude Project is NOT basic Altitude Training. It is an advanced Scientific project designed to give participants the best of both worlds hence the name "Live High, Train Low", i.e. the Increased # of Red Blood Cells-RBCs of living at Altitude, while allowing them to train at sea level. Everybody knows the human body runs slower at altitude because of decreased Oxygen levels, so by doing High Intensity Running at Sea Level, participants get the physiological improvements of high intensity training, while increasing RBCs through living at Altitude.
The controversy surrounding these methods is that True Altitude Inhabitants can't have it both ways....They Live AND Train at Altitude. To get the benefits of "Live High, Train Low" they would have to travel thousands of miles from altitude to sea level everyday, which is financially impossible considering the extreme poverty of most African countries.
While the Nike Altitude Project is not blatant Blood Doping, it is HIGHLY Controversial. It begs the question of how much technology should be allowed to enhance a runner's natural ability ? I applaud Coach Salazar and Nike for publicly sharing information about the project. This is not a shadowy, Government Sponsored Doping Program. But it is does push the boundaries of Natural Ability vs. Technological Enhancements.

Read the Links "Genius" 3 years ago

How can you say that it is equivalent to blood doping? Endurance athletes have used altitude training for decades. Keep in mind that Salazar's group still works as hard as anyone. Simply living in the house doesn't make you run faster, the training does.
Read the links "Genius"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Oregon_Project
http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.5/the-oregon-project.html

"The argument for altitude rooms is that they make up for those athletes that can't live high. What they don't take into account is that people living high don't get the benefits of training low." Alberto Salazar was confident the Anti-Doping Agency would ultimately approve the altitude house, saying that it's no different from other legal scientific advances like heart rate monitors and sports drinks.[3]
In 2006, the subject was revisited more thoroughly by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) which claimed that it could be equivalent to blood doping and therefore they should be banned"
It never surprises me how easily questionable methods are rationalized when Americans are the ones in question...however if the East Africans had Use of Nike's High-Tech Facilities & Coaches, how much more would they embarrass the rest of the world ?

Does Nike Project = Cheating? 3 years ago

Read the Links "genius"...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Oregon_Project
http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.5/the-oregon-project.html

"The argument for altitude rooms is that they make up for those athletes that can't live high. What they don't take into account is that people living high don't get the benefits of training low." Alberto Salazar was confident the Anti-Doping Agency would ultimately approve the altitude house, saying that it's no different from other legal scientific advances like heart rate monitors and sports drinks.[3]
In 2006, the subject was revisited more thoroughly by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) which claimed that it could be equivalent to blood doping and therefore they should be banned"
It never surprises me how easily questionable methods are rationalized when Americans are the ones in question...however if the Africans had Use of Nike's High-Tech Facilities & Coaches, how much more would they embarrass the rest of the world ?

Bolt can beat him 3 years ago

If Bolt is any where near the leaders with one lap to go it's all over. Ritz should be happy that Bolt doesn't want to train for the longer distances because it affects his dancing.